It's as Dalesy said, the lines have faded over time so when they're scanned in rather than photographed, the light shines through the faded lines making them look kinda orange rather than black. IRL they're black with no light shining through as you can see in my normal photo rather than the scan.Attitudefan wrote:Cels, the perfect reference to colour correct the Dragonboxes.
Also, I have a question: WHy do the cel's appear to have red outlines whereas in the finished product (the anime) the lines are black? Does it have to do with fading? Or does it have to do with onion skinning?
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They were using copy machines that copy only lines drawn with charcoal pencils, and colors were painted by hand. Copied lines are far easy to get sun-faded. It's why cels from much older shows in the non-automatic tracing era tend to keep black and sharp lines.Attitudefan wrote:Also, I have a question: WHy do the cel's appear to have red outlines whereas in the finished product (the anime) the lines are black? Does it have to do with fading? Or does it have to do with onion skinning?
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I see!! Thank you so much guys!
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The colors looks so vibrant on those cels! How did they color them? With paint?
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Yup, it's all paint. Here's a picture of the back of it!Insertclevername wrote:The colors looks so vibrant on those cels! How did they color them? With paint?
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Woah, that must've been really difficult to paint all the frames!
(But it looks so good, so it's worth it)
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Just came across my cel whilst painfully subtitling my GT Dragon Box. Interesting to see how much gets cropped and how the colours differ.


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Picked up another cel today! This time it's from the Buu saga:



And here's the shot in the show!

Episode 280 for anyone wondering.
Interesting to see how much gets cropped.



And here's the shot in the show!

Episode 280 for anyone wondering.
Interesting to see how much gets cropped.
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Not the exact same frame as the show (look at the distance between Goku's boot and Boo's belt) but it's close enough.AjayLikesGaming wrote:Picked up another cel today! This time it's from the Buu saga:
And here's the shot in the show!Spoiler:
Episode 280 for anyone wondering.Spoiler:
Interesting to see how much gets cropped.
Pretty cool cel by the way
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That's pretty awesome. I should get a cel one day.
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Oh yeahhh, you're right. Damn! Woops.

There we go!

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Words cannot describe my envy! How much did that cost you?!
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How I enjoy the anime:
"Never give in--never, never, never, never, in nothing great or small, large or petty, never give in except to convictions of honour and good sense. Never yield to force; never yield to the apparently overwhelming might of the enemy." ~ Sir Winston Chruchill / Dragon Ball Z in a nutshell
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This particular one was $190 and the SSJ4 one on the first page was $136. Not too bad. Strongly considered selling every possession in my house for this http://www.rubberslug.com/shop/item.aspx?i=4974Kakarot88 wrote:Words cannot describe my envy! How much did that cost you?!
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I'd have bought that Goku vs Boo in an instant! That's an incredible deal! That Vegeta cell is def worth it, I wish I had the funds myself.AjayLikesGaming wrote:This particular one was $190 and the SSJ4 one on the first page was $136. Not too bad. Strongly considered selling every possession in my house for this http://www.rubberslug.com/shop/item.aspx?i=4974Kakarot88 wrote:Words cannot describe my envy! How much did that cost you?!
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"Never give in--never, never, never, never, in nothing great or small, large or petty, never give in except to convictions of honour and good sense. Never yield to force; never yield to the apparently overwhelming might of the enemy." ~ Sir Winston Chruchill / Dragon Ball Z in a nutshell
How I enjoy the anime:
"Never give in--never, never, never, never, in nothing great or small, large or petty, never give in except to convictions of honour and good sense. Never yield to force; never yield to the apparently overwhelming might of the enemy." ~ Sir Winston Chruchill / Dragon Ball Z in a nutshell
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Okay, well my cels just came back from the framers. Have yet to unwrap it since I'm at university currently and it turned up back home but I'm quite happy with the result:

A little bit annoyed I didn't wait since I picked up this Vegeta cel the other week:

I'd love this thread to stay alive so if you do have cels you've picked up, be sure to post them here!

A little bit annoyed I didn't wait since I picked up this Vegeta cel the other week:

I'd love this thread to stay alive so if you do have cels you've picked up, be sure to post them here!
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Bumping my own thread in hopes of others with cels showing them off too
Just picked this up as a late Christmas present to myself:
It's from the scene where Goku is powering up his 3 x Kaioken against Vegeta.
Thanks to JulieYBM (& the Kanzenshuu animation guide) for help with identifying the animator.
I'm in a terrible mood though. I almost owned this - http://i.imgur.com/jDwxk4y.png - but Paypal fucking FROZE on login and I missed my bid opportunity. Extremely angry. That's a Yamamuro piece from Movie 8.
Oh well, I guess the scene I did end up with is more iconic that a random shot of Vegeta getting thrashed (as nice looking as it is).
Just picked this up as a late Christmas present to myself:
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Thanks to JulieYBM (& the Kanzenshuu animation guide) for help with identifying the animator.
I'm in a terrible mood though. I almost owned this - http://i.imgur.com/jDwxk4y.png - but Paypal fucking FROZE on login and I missed my bid opportunity. Extremely angry. That's a Yamamuro piece from Movie 8.
Oh well, I guess the scene I did end up with is more iconic that a random shot of Vegeta getting thrashed (as nice looking as it is).
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I saw that on ebay once and I was thinking about getting it (until I saw the price). It looks awesome, good on you for getting itAjayLikesGaming wrote:Bumping my own thread in hopes of others with cels showing them off too![]()
Just picked this up as a late Christmas present to myself:
It's from the scene where Goku is powering up his 3 x Kaioken against Vegeta.Spoiler:
Thanks to JulieYBM (& the Kanzenshuu animation guide) for help with identifying the animator.
I'm in a terrible mood though. I almost owned this - http://i.imgur.com/jDwxk4y.png - but Paypal fucking FROZE on login and I missed my bid opportunity. Extremely angry. That's a Yamamuro piece from Movie 8.
Oh well, I guess the scene I did end up with is more iconic that a random shot of Vegeta getting thrashed (as nice looking as it is).
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That's actually an amazing deal. The only ones on eBay below 150 are just subtle moments or odd inbetweens but anything with great poses and multiple characters like that I usually only see around for 300-500.AjayLikesGaming wrote:This particular one was $190 and the SSJ4 one on the first page was $136. Not too bad. Strongly considered selling every possession in my house for this http://www.rubberslug.com/shop/item.aspx?i=4974Kakarot88 wrote:Words cannot describe my envy! How much did that cost you?!
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The Cells looks so much better than what they do in the animation.AjayLikesGaming wrote:Picked up another cel today! This time it's from the Buu saga:
And here's the shot in the show!
Episode 280 for anyone wondering.
Interesting to see how much gets cropped.










