Super Saiyan 4 Pants

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Super Saiyan 4 Pants

Post by Kamiccolo9 » Fri Jul 12, 2013 11:07 pm

How does SSJ4 conjure up new pants?
I'd like to see actual attempts at coming up with a reason, not just "GT logic," if at all possible.
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Re: Super Saiyan 4 Pants

Post by TheMightyOzaru » Fri Jul 12, 2013 11:08 pm

Clothes beam. They've conjured clothes before so I don't see why it wouldn't apply here.
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Re: Super Saiyan 4 Pants

Post by Kaboom » Fri Jul 12, 2013 11:11 pm

Piccolo was present but off-screen for both Goku and Vegeta's first ascensions to Super Saiyan 4. He realized what was happening and hit them each with a long-distance Clothes Beam before things got weird.

...This is honestly the closest thing to a serious answer that I could come up with.
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Re: Super Saiyan 4 Pants

Post by Fionordequester » Fri Jul 12, 2013 11:15 pm

Kaboom wrote:Piccolo was present but off-screen for both Goku and Vegeta's first ascensions to Super Saiyan 4. He realized what was happening and hit them each with a long-distance Clothes Beam before things got weird.

...This is honestly the closest thing to a serious answer that I could come up with.
Ah, see, this is easy. You see, just like how Machoke needed a special belt to contain his incredible power, SSJ4 Goku's pants and shoes are actually a special material secreted by his body in order to condense and channel his power rather than it going wild like was the case when he was a Golden Oozaru. And then, once that power is condensed, it reacts to his aura in a way that creates electrical signals to enter into him and activate ion channels within his body, therefore opening up more gates in his body to draw power from and giving him a slight boost to his power, hence why this form is stronger than Golden Oozaru.
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Re: Super Saiyan 4 Pants

Post by Insertclevername » Fri Jul 12, 2013 11:21 pm

I'll try my best theory.

Super Saiyan 4 awakens a special magical property found in the Saiyans that allows them to manipulate..um...clothing?

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Re: Super Saiyan 4 Pants

Post by Rocketman » Fri Jul 12, 2013 11:23 pm

Toei only likes kid Goku dick, not man-sized bratwurst.

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Re: Super Saiyan 4 Pants

Post by RandomGuy96 » Fri Jul 12, 2013 11:50 pm

Rocketman wrote:Toei only likes kid Goku dick, not man-sized bratwurst.
:lol:

I think you may have killed me.

Anyway, all transformations seemingly create matter out of nowhere. This one probably just formed the pants like the fusion dance formed a vest... somehow...

Or it's like Majin Buu and the pants are actually part of their body (except when they aren't).
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Re: Super Saiyan 4 Pants

Post by Kamiccolo9 » Sat Jul 13, 2013 12:10 am

Rocketman wrote:Toei only likes kid Goku dick, not man-sized bratwurst.
For our safety, of course. Gotenks was terrified of that thing.
Vegeta apparently wasn't nearly as impressive. He doesn't even phase that lizard guy.
Or maybe, Super Saiyan makes Saiyans "super" in more ways than we thought.
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Re: Super Saiyan 4 Pants

Post by TheMightyOzaru » Sat Jul 13, 2013 12:47 am

Well I'm sure Hentai would certainly like to claim they get super d***s :lol: .
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Re: Super Saiyan 4 Pants

Post by Legendary Saiya-Jin » Sat Jul 13, 2013 4:15 am

SSJ4 is like the Fusion Dance between Oozaru state-of-mind and SSJ humanoid-Saiya-Jin state and forms magical pants like Gotenks'.

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Re: Super Saiyan 4 Pants

Post by Hitiro » Sat Jul 13, 2013 6:13 am

Well, in the Flash comics the Flash can create constructs out of the speed force energy. The very energy that protects him and everybody around him when he travels at speeds that would destroy his body or the world. In one comic the Flash actually breaks both of his legs in a fight. To continue running however he crafts the speed force energy into solid armour to support his broken legs and allow him to run with them broken. So if we transfer this logic over then perhaps Ki has a similar property where it can be crafted into pants. The transference of energy into matter has been discussed on multiple occasions in various sci-fi shows and in comics. Though the energy required would be quite large to create an object out of energy. But these are the same people who can blow a moon away pretty easily so perhaps it is plausible. You can take this answer if you want but I say its just "GT logic" because there is no way that sort of information is encoded into the DNA in which the transformation resides.

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Re: Super Saiyan 4 Pants

Post by DBZGTKOSDH » Sat Jul 13, 2013 7:09 am

They come from the same place the clothes from Fusion come from.
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Re: Super Saiyan 4 Pants

Post by hleV » Sat Jul 13, 2013 7:10 am

For Gokū's usual base → SS4, I'd say his pants are elastic. For Golden Ōzaru → SS4, no idea. Perhaps as a Golden Ōzaru he actually wore pants, just that nobody noticed as they're of the same color as the fur.

I know this only applies to the pants itself and not the blue parts at the bottom, but still.

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Re: Super Saiyan 4 Pants

Post by SSJ4_Zankuto » Sat Jul 13, 2013 2:24 pm

Bebi-Vegeta changed clothes too when he transformed into Super Bebi-Vegeta. It's like the clothes are part of metamorphosis for Super Saiyan 4.

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Re: Super Saiyan 4 Pants

Post by Fionordequester » Sat Jul 13, 2013 2:29 pm

SSJ4_Zankuto wrote:Bebi-Vegeta changed clothes too when he transformed into Super Bebi-Vegeta. It's like the clothes are part of metamorphosis for Super Saiyan 4.
Actually, not really...no, he changed clothes while he was gathering energy for his Nega Death Ball to kill Goku...I am not kidding. The people of Earth actually hated saiyans SO MUCH, that they actually warped space and time around Bebi by giving him new duds :lol: !
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Re: Super Saiyan 4 Pants

Post by Blade » Sat Jul 13, 2013 3:19 pm

I find it interesting that most people don't have a problem with how Super Saiyan 3 manages to cause a temporary loss of eyebrows and a dramatic growth in hair, but they question how Super Saiyan 4 generates clothing.
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Re: Super Saiyan 4 Pants

Post by hleV » Sat Jul 13, 2013 3:40 pm

Blade wrote:I find it interesting that most people don't have a problem with how Super Saiyan 3 manages to cause a temporary loss of eyebrows and a dramatic growth in hair, but they question how Super Saiyan 4 generates clothing.
I find it interesting how you attempted to compare two absolutely unrelated and incomparable things. Hair growth is a natural thing.

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Re: Super Saiyan 4 Pants

Post by Tzigi » Sat Jul 13, 2013 3:45 pm

Those aren't really clothes - they're just a differently coloured part of a Saiyans body (you know like their hair changing colour back and forth). Essentially all they are are great blisters.

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Re: Super Saiyan 4 Pants

Post by TheMightyOzaru » Sat Jul 13, 2013 3:48 pm

Blade wrote:I find it interesting that most people don't have a problem with how Super Saiyan 3 manages to cause a temporary loss of eyebrows and a dramatic growth in hair, but they question how Super Saiyan 4 generates clothing.
:eh: .
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Re: Super Saiyan 4 Pants

Post by Blade » Sat Jul 13, 2013 4:14 pm

TheMightyOzaru wrote: :eh: .
hleV wrote:I find it interesting how you attempted to compare two absolutely unrelated and incomparable things. Hair growth is a natural thing.
Instantaneous growth of dramatic, flowing golden locks of hair that can then revert back to normal at a person's will is not natural. Go ahead and give me an example of how that is normal in the natural world in any way, shape or form.

Within the context of Super Saiyan transformations the two things are entirely related and entirely comparable.
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