Question About Taiyô-ken Hand-Positioning

[Swift]

Now, I am familiar with the form of Taiyô-ken in which the hands of the characters and all their fingers are held out in front of each side of their face, with their palms facing towards them, like in this image: http://img107.imageshack.us/img107/816/taiyoken6sd.jpg

However, while watching the Doomrider AMV with my brother, he noticed that, during the Namek arc, Kuririn seems to use the Taiyô-ken, but with a different hand-position, as seen here: http://img115.imageshack.us/img115/1835 ... en22uo.jpg

He only extends two fingers on each hand, his index and middle finger, and curls the others into a fist. I don't remember seeing that version before. It's been quite a long time since I saw the Namek saga, and I didn't notice that when I did. I'm sure that the first image version is much more common, though. Just where did this second version of Taiyô-ken come from? Is it different from the normal one in any way? I would really appreciate an explanation.

[_Jrinu_]

Well if I recall correctly, On Namek Kuririn stated that it was his first time using the Taiyô-ken and that he "might as well give it a shot."

So it's possible that Kuririn didn't know how to do it correctly, but got it to work anyway. (Similar to Goten's KameKameha)

[Sho™]

As far as we know, there are no obvious difference in the effect they both have on the opponent. This is similar to the thread posted a while back to the positioning of Goku's hand during the KameHameHa. I assume Toriyama wanted to show differences in the styles of each person; Kuririn's own way of performing the technique, etc.

However, I do recall seeing that Kuririn used the Taiyôken in the same style as Tenshinhan during that little scenario with first-form Cell on the plane when he was trying to rescue a mother and her child. Incidentally, is that scene in the manga as well?

One of those unexplainable little things?

EDIT: Bah, _Jrinu_ posted first.

[Kaze no Mune]

The plain scene with Cell was filler, so who knows. Perhaps Kuririn corrected his mistake? Probably not, I'm willing to be it was the magic of filler at work.

I'm willing to bet that it's most likely what _Jrinu_ said, it was his first time and he didn't really know exactly how to pull it off.

[Sebastian (SB)]

He only extends two fingers on each hand, his index and middle finger, and curls the others into a fist. I don't remember seeing that version before. It's been quite a long time since I saw the Namek saga, and I didn't notice that when I did. I'm sure that the first image version is much more common, though. Just where did this second version of Taiyô-ken come from? Is it different from the normal one in any way? I would really appreciate an explanation.

It's actually used in the manga as well. Here's my scan.

http://i40.photobucket.com/albums/e232/ ... ure046.jpg

I guess it's another one of those Toriyamus Forgetus cases. Either way I think it looks cool & it's nice to see them mix it up.

[MisterFlashdude]

I don't think that all the techniques used by multiple characters have to be completely uniform... Some the characters that use Kamehameha put very subtle variations on its execution. It's not like the characters teach eachother their moves-- they usually see it happen, remember it... and then do their best to try to use the move themselves.

So I don't think it's fair to chalk this one up to Toriyamus Forgetus, it's not really a plot hole or a contradiction to anything in any way... he probably just wanted Kuririn's Taiyoken to be unique.

[Swift]

Hey, thanks for all the input guys. Personally, I like _Jrinu_'s and Flashdude's theories about it, in which Kuririn positioned his hands differently because he did it from memory, but it worked since the exact hand positions don't matter that much.

You know, I was surprised it was a one time thing. I thought it'd be more significant since the positioning is quite different from the regular Taiyô-ken. I kinda like how Kuririn has his own unique way of doing it, actually. Anyway, again, thanks for answering my question.