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Re: Fanmanga - DB Multiverse

Post by RandomGuy96 » Thu Jul 18, 2013 5:19 pm

The cyborgs don't have ki, they just have built in weapons that they can control. His ki should not just add on top of that, and should become completely irrelevant next to his android power. So while technically he would also have his natural power, it wouldn't actually mean anything.
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dbgtFO wrote: Please elaborate as I do not know what you mean by "pushing Vegeta's destruction"
He's probably referring to the Bardock special. Zarbon was the one who first recommended destroying Planet Vegeta because the saiyans were rapidly growing in strength.
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Re: Fanmanga - DB Multiverse

Post by rereboy » Thu Jul 18, 2013 5:34 pm

RandomGuy96 wrote:The cyborgs don't have ki, they just have built in weapons that they can control. His ki should not just add on top of that, and should become completely irrelevant next to his android power. So while technically he would also have his natural power, it wouldn't actually mean anything.
Actually, everything living has Ki. And #17 and #18 are mostly biological living beings. So they should have Ki actually.

There's nothing explaining how exactly that works. All we know is that their Ki can't be sensed, but that can be explained without assuming that they don't have Ki. Perhaps it just can't be sensed because the artificial power is too intimately linked with their natural Ki, which masks their natural Ki and prevents it from being detected. If that is the case, there's nothing preventing android Yamcha from being able to use his natural Ki together with his artificial power.

Also, we have no idea how great this Yamcha's natural Ki is, there's nothing to suggest that its exactly the same as the Yamcha we know.

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Re: Fanmanga - DB Multiverse

Post by RandomGuy96 » Thu Jul 18, 2013 9:45 pm

Off-topic, but do you know what would have been a cool universe? One where Janemba won. Imagine that special; there is no wall between life and the afterlife, Hell is a giant sugarland full of jelly beans, the god is a reality warping demon with the mind of a 2 year old...

Not to mention, Janemba's awesome and has interesting powers. He should've taken Bujin's place (what a worthless competitor) and beat Fat Buu, South Kaioshin, and Uub. And you can just throw in any villain you want into the tournament by saying they come from Janemba's universe.
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dbgtFO wrote: Please elaborate as I do not know what you mean by "pushing Vegeta's destruction"
He's probably referring to the Bardock special. Zarbon was the one who first recommended destroying Planet Vegeta because the saiyans were rapidly growing in strength.
It was actually Beerus disguised as Zarbon #StayWoke
Herms wrote:The fact that the ridiculous power inflation is presented so earnestly makes me just roll my eyes and snicker. Like with Freeza, where he starts off over 10 times stronger than all his henchmen except Ginyu (because...well, just because), then we find out he can transform and get even more powerful, and then he reveals he can transform two more times, before finally coming out with the fact that he hasn't even been using anywhere near 50% of his power. Oh, and he can survive in the vacuum of space. All this stuff is just presented as the way Freeza is, without even an attempt at rationalizing it, yet the tone dictates we're supposed to take all this silly grasping at straws as thrilling danger. So I guess I don't really take the power inflation in the Boo arc seriously, but I don't take the power inflation in earlier arcs seriously either, so there's no net loss of seriousness. I think a silly story presented as serious is harder to accept than a silly story presented as silly.

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Re: Fanmanga - DB Multiverse

Post by DBZGTKOSDH » Fri Jul 19, 2013 12:39 am

RandomGuy96 wrote:Off-topic, but do you know what would have been a cool universe? One where Janemba won. Imagine that special; there is no wall between life and the afterlife, Hell is a giant sugarland full of jelly beans, the god is a reality warping demon with the mind of a 2 year old...

Not to mention, Janemba's awesome and has interesting powers. He should've taken Bujin's place (what a worthless competitor) and beat Fat Buu, South Kaioshin, and Uub. And you can just throw in any villain you want into the tournament by saying they come from Janemba's universe.
Problem is, Janenba is uncontrollable, like Pure Boo, which is why neither of them are included.
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Re: Fanmanga - DB Multiverse

Post by Storm101 » Fri Jul 19, 2013 1:51 pm

Probably not a good idea for a number of reasons, but a universe where Gohan caught the potara earring would be cool. It's impossible to know just what affect this "rivalry bonus" has, but he could probably put Vegetto and Buu in their place. He could potentially be an interesting character too, Gohan's anger + Goku's saiyan pride...

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Re: Fanmanga - DB Multiverse

Post by Scarz » Fri Jul 19, 2013 2:08 pm

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I got a good chuckle after reading the last panel. Also, not digging the first panel, the characters look a little too stiff.

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Re: Fanmanga - DB Multiverse

Post by RandomGuy96 » Fri Jul 19, 2013 2:10 pm

Of COURSE all of U16 survives.

Huh, Zen Buu's still being somewhat polite at least. Is he going to absorb Fat Buu too? How would that even work, absorbing himself...?

Okay, so add Dabura's stone spit to the list of techniques Buu has that can kill even SS3 Vegetto in one hit.

1. Transmutation Beam
2. Kienzan
3. Absorption
4. Kikoho
5. Ultra Armor Blade
6. Stone Spit
7. Mafuba (?)
8. Sealing Spell

Am I missing anything?
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dbgtFO wrote: Please elaborate as I do not know what you mean by "pushing Vegeta's destruction"
He's probably referring to the Bardock special. Zarbon was the one who first recommended destroying Planet Vegeta because the saiyans were rapidly growing in strength.
It was actually Beerus disguised as Zarbon #StayWoke
Herms wrote:The fact that the ridiculous power inflation is presented so earnestly makes me just roll my eyes and snicker. Like with Freeza, where he starts off over 10 times stronger than all his henchmen except Ginyu (because...well, just because), then we find out he can transform and get even more powerful, and then he reveals he can transform two more times, before finally coming out with the fact that he hasn't even been using anywhere near 50% of his power. Oh, and he can survive in the vacuum of space. All this stuff is just presented as the way Freeza is, without even an attempt at rationalizing it, yet the tone dictates we're supposed to take all this silly grasping at straws as thrilling danger. So I guess I don't really take the power inflation in the Boo arc seriously, but I don't take the power inflation in earlier arcs seriously either, so there's no net loss of seriousness. I think a silly story presented as serious is harder to accept than a silly story presented as silly.

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Post by Hades » Fri Jul 19, 2013 2:11 pm

Buuception!
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Post by Insertclevername » Fri Jul 19, 2013 2:16 pm

That top panel looks terrible. The second panel is kind of humorous, I'll give it that.
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Post by Kamiccolo9 » Fri Jul 19, 2013 2:17 pm

I don't know what Zen Buu's bragging about. Fat Buu's method of shutting Babidi up worked out pretty well, in my opinion.
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Re: Fanmanga - DB Multiverse

Post by RandomGuy96 » Fri Jul 19, 2013 2:20 pm

But Fat Buu didn't absorb him. Now Zen Buu has the Sealing Spell and an incredibly disproportionately powerful barrier that should be able to tank everything in the tournament, if it scales with the user's power. Also, Dabura's Stone Spit and Fire Breath.

Well, there goes any chance of Babidi saving the day.
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RandomGuy96 wrote:
dbgtFO wrote: Please elaborate as I do not know what you mean by "pushing Vegeta's destruction"
He's probably referring to the Bardock special. Zarbon was the one who first recommended destroying Planet Vegeta because the saiyans were rapidly growing in strength.
It was actually Beerus disguised as Zarbon #StayWoke
Herms wrote:The fact that the ridiculous power inflation is presented so earnestly makes me just roll my eyes and snicker. Like with Freeza, where he starts off over 10 times stronger than all his henchmen except Ginyu (because...well, just because), then we find out he can transform and get even more powerful, and then he reveals he can transform two more times, before finally coming out with the fact that he hasn't even been using anywhere near 50% of his power. Oh, and he can survive in the vacuum of space. All this stuff is just presented as the way Freeza is, without even an attempt at rationalizing it, yet the tone dictates we're supposed to take all this silly grasping at straws as thrilling danger. So I guess I don't really take the power inflation in the Boo arc seriously, but I don't take the power inflation in earlier arcs seriously either, so there's no net loss of seriousness. I think a silly story presented as serious is harder to accept than a silly story presented as silly.

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Re: Fanmanga - DB Multiverse

Post by Kamiccolo9 » Fri Jul 19, 2013 2:21 pm

RandomGuy96 wrote:But Fat Buu didn't absorb him. Now Zen Buu has the Sealing Spell and an incredibly disproportionately powerful barrier that should be able to tank everything in the tournament, if it scales with the user's power. Also, Dabura's Stone Spit and Fire Breath.

Well, there goes any chance of Babidi saving the day.
Until Vegetto goes inside, frees Babidi, and Babidi seals him. Calling it now.
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Re: Fanmanga - DB Multiverse

Post by AquaTeamV3 » Fri Jul 19, 2013 2:43 pm

RandomGuy96 wrote:Of COURSE all of U16 survives.
That's U18. I kinda like how it shows them all working together as opposed to the other universes scrambling around.

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Re: Fanmanga - DB Multiverse

Post by RandomGuy96 » Fri Jul 19, 2013 2:55 pm

No, it's clearly U16. Pan is still alive there and Bra isn't going Super Saiyan.

EDIT: Ah, U18 is the main one. That's the one I meant.
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RandomGuy96 wrote:
dbgtFO wrote: Please elaborate as I do not know what you mean by "pushing Vegeta's destruction"
He's probably referring to the Bardock special. Zarbon was the one who first recommended destroying Planet Vegeta because the saiyans were rapidly growing in strength.
It was actually Beerus disguised as Zarbon #StayWoke
Herms wrote:The fact that the ridiculous power inflation is presented so earnestly makes me just roll my eyes and snicker. Like with Freeza, where he starts off over 10 times stronger than all his henchmen except Ginyu (because...well, just because), then we find out he can transform and get even more powerful, and then he reveals he can transform two more times, before finally coming out with the fact that he hasn't even been using anywhere near 50% of his power. Oh, and he can survive in the vacuum of space. All this stuff is just presented as the way Freeza is, without even an attempt at rationalizing it, yet the tone dictates we're supposed to take all this silly grasping at straws as thrilling danger. So I guess I don't really take the power inflation in the Boo arc seriously, but I don't take the power inflation in earlier arcs seriously either, so there's no net loss of seriousness. I think a silly story presented as serious is harder to accept than a silly story presented as silly.

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Re: Fanmanga - DB Multiverse

Post by Kamiccolo9 » Fri Jul 19, 2013 2:58 pm

AquaTeamV3 wrote:
RandomGuy96 wrote:Of COURSE all of U16 survives.
That's U18. I kinda like how it shows them all working together as opposed to the other universes scrambling around.
It's horribly out of character. Since when do the manga characters, GASP, work together? They've got a Goku for that. I mean, even Uub and Piccolo are helping out! What's up with that?
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Re: Fanmanga - DB Multiverse

Post by Hellspawn28 » Fri Jul 19, 2013 3:06 pm

The last part of the comic was cute, I will give you that :lol: .
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Post by Marco Polo » Fri Jul 19, 2013 3:24 pm

Keep in mind that U18 isn't exactly the manga universe. Some movies happened in U18. :thumbup:

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Post by DragonBalllKaiHD » Fri Jul 19, 2013 9:01 pm

Geez... Look at Vegeta. He's pulling his butt out like he's taking a prostrate exam...
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Re: Fanmanga - DB Multiverse

Post by Puto » Fri Jul 19, 2013 10:06 pm

Kamiccolo9 wrote:I don't know what Zen Buu's bragging about. Fat Buu's method of shutting Babidi up worked out pretty well, in my opinion.
Except this Fat Boo clearly didn't do that, given his Babidi's still around.
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Re: Fanmanga - DB Multiverse

Post by dbzfan7 » Fri Jul 19, 2013 10:48 pm

I like how U18 is working together here. But I find it odd how the main universe is barely focused on at all.
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