Your inside "fanon" things

[Kamiccolo9]

The conditions are:

• intense anger or sorrow
• high battle power
• a gentle heart
• a dangerous situation

But they obviously don't apply to Goten & Trunks, since they are special:

The tailless second generation are super ultra child prodigies.
Saiyan genes have an extraordinarily good compatibility with Earthling blood. Because of this, when the two races are mixed together children with formidable power are born. Particularly, those Halflings born without tails hide an exceptional battle power. There are many things that they naturally master from a young age, such as the ordinarily arduous transformation into a Super Saiyan. In spite of having such an outstanding battle sense, they do not have a fondness for battle like a pure Saiyan. Instead, it seems that the violent temperament of the Saiyan has been relaxed through their Earthling blood.

I feel like "Super Ultra Child Prodigies" is a bit redundant.

[TheGmGoken]

Zenkai is a glimpse of dormanted powers.

I always thought that how Zenkai worked. Shocked to here that it's only a fanon thing.

[DBZGTKOSDH]

I feel like "Super Ultra Child Prodigies" is a bit redundant.

Well, they seem to be stronger than the pre-RoSaT Super Saiyans, and they can easily transform into a Super Saiyan, so I guess it isn't redundant?

[Kamiccolo9]

I feel like "Super Ultra Child Prodigies" is a bit redundant.

Well, they seem to be stronger than the pre-RoSaT Super Saiyans, and they can easily transform into a Super Saiyan, so I guess it isn't redundant?

Personally, I'm fine with "really strong kids," but I guess that's not fancy enough for Shueisha.

[Rocketman]

"Undeservedly Strong Shitheads".

[RandomGuy96]

Sounds about right.

[DNA]

Okay, I completely ignored those statements existed. Although I must say they are proposed conditions, not factual.
And about contradictions, first I did not say series, but franchise; secondly, Goten, Trunks and Bardock prove that the power level does not need to be that high.

Oh and here's a piece of fanon, I don't believe the kids are that strong. At all. They're probably about as strong as Gohan was with their age, before the ROSAT training, maybe a little bit more. The only reason they appear super strong is due to the fact they can prematurely go Super Saiyan, thus multiplying their battle power.
Apart from that, they are not impressive in any way.

[DBZGTKOSDH]

Okay, I completely ignored those statements existed. Although I must say they are proposed conditions, not factual.
And about contradictions, first I did not say series, but franchise; secondly, Goten, Trunks and Bardock prove that the power level does not need to be that high.

Goten & Trunks are exceptions, because they are stated to have being born with the ability to transform in early age.
As for Bardock, he was almost 10.000, but after that, he got his ass kicked from Dodoria, and then was caught in the explosion of Planet Vegeta, which sent him back in time. After that, he was found unconscious by a Plantian, and was healed by him. So, he most likely got a near death power up that made him go beyond the Saiyan limits.

[DNA]

Goten & Trunks are exceptions, because they are stated to have being born with the ability to transform in early age.

They were 7 and 8, Gohan was going Super Saiyan 2 at 10 years old. What makes them so special?

As for Bardock, he was almost 10.000, but after that, he got his ass kicked from Dodoria, and then was caught in the explosion of Planet Vegeta, which sent him back in time. After that, he was found unconscious by a Plantian, and was healed by him. So, he most likely got a near death power up that made him go beyond the Saiyan limits.

You're asking me to believe that Bardock got a boost of almost 10x his power level? Because that's pretty close to the amount your proposed earlier.

[DBZGTKOSDH]

They were 7 and 8, Gohan was going Super Saiyan 2 at 10 years old. What makes them so special?

They never trained under a great master like Piccolo, Goku, Vegeta, or any god, they never got their dormant power drawn out, and they never trained in any special place with high gravity. They are stated that they have the form because they are special in the Daizenshuu, as I've posted before:

The tailless second generation are super ultra child prodigies.
Saiyan genes have an extraordinarily good compatibility with Earthling blood. Because of this, when the two races are mixed together children with formidable power are born. Particularly, those Halflings born without tails hide an exceptional battle power. There are many things that they naturally master from a young age, such as the ordinarily arduous transformation into a Super Saiyan. In spite of having such an outstanding battle sense, they do not have a fondness for battle like a pure Saiyan. Instead, it seems that the violent temperament of the Saiyan has been relaxed through their Earthling blood.

You're asking me to believe that Bardock got a boost of almost 10x his power level? Because that's pretty close to the amount your proposed earlier.

Goku got a x33 increase, so why not?

[Gonstead]

Nappa and Vegeta painted their armour and hair on the bug planet to make it harder for them to be identified as Saiyans/Frieza Soldiers. It obviously wore off on the trip to Earth which explains why they look so different before and after in the Anime.

[DNA]

Here's one, everything that has been stated to happen to Toninjinka in the games and guides is sorta true.

The following events are based on the video game The Mystery of Shenlong:
So Mutenroshi destroyed the moon and Toninjinka survived... somehow, he floated around space until bumping into Kurilien's space ship. They went back to his base in an empty moon nearby and become friends over time. During the Red Ribbon Arc, they somehow they stumble upon the radio frequency the Dragon Balls produce and replicate it in order to attract Goku.
Goku, Bulma and Kuririn travel to the base and shenanigans occur, resulting in Toninjinka's defeat.

The following events are based on the video game The Great Demon King's Revival:
Not satisfied and missing home, Toninjinka plans to return to Earth and Kurilien says they need help, so they recruit another bounty hunter, Synthesiser.
They arrive on Earth during the Piccolo Daimao Arc and invade Penguin Village. They are utterly defeated and both Kurilien and Synthesiser retreat, leaving Toninjinka behind.

The following events are based on the video game Attack of the Saiyans:
Defeated and alone, Toninjinka stumbles upon Yamcha's hideout and moves in. After the 23rd Tenkaichi Budokai, Yamcha decides to return home to check on his crib. He finds Toninjinka, beats the shit out of him and makes him his bitch, resulting in the only true win Yamcha has ever had.

And now this is just from myself:
After Yamcha dies during the Saiyan Arc and after Goku leaves, Toninjinka sneaks into Capsule Corp. and manages to steal a small prototype space vessel that Brief constructed whilst trying out for the main thing. He uses this to return to his friend, Kurilien and becomes a bounty hunter.

Eventually, during their travels around space, they land on Imegga and get stranded there for years to come. They were actually on the planet when Goku and co. were around.

[TheGmGoken]

Goku met Akira Toriyama in other world. That's how he learn SSJ3.

[dbzfan7]

Teamfourstar's version of how Vegeta attained SSJ is how it happened.

[TheGmGoken]

Teamfourstar's version of how Vegeta attained SSJ is how it happened.

In the manga we get no flashback. So how he got it....in TFS could be legit.

[dbzfan7]

Teamfourstar's version of how Vegeta attained SSJ is how it happened.

In the manga we get no flashback. So how he got it....in TFS could be legit.

Exactly why I consider TFS's version to be the canon version.

[DBZGTKOSDH]

In Battle of Gods...

Spoiler:

SS2 Vegeta got a rage boost that made him stronger than SS3 Goku, after Beers slapped his Bulma. After that incident, Vegeta decided to focus on getting control of his emotions, so that he can freely use this power that makes him stronger than Goku, instead of trying to achieve SS3 (since it rapidly drains ki). So, after finally succeeding to master it, he goes to meet Goku so that he can challenge him into a fight, only to find out that Goku had surpassed Vegeta... again.

[Ringworm128]

Power levels work pretty much the same as levels in Pokemon including all the EV and IV's stuff so different characters would have different attack, defense and speed. It would also explain how Vegeta was able to tank Goku's Kaioken X4 despite it being around 30000 since he had higher defense stats.

I'm confused with the third point you're trying to make, but it reminds me that I strongly disbelieve that in order to achieve Super Saiyan a Saiyan has to have a certain power level. That's not only ridiculous, it was never stated anywhere official and the franchise itself contradicts it.

I dunno, if it was just based on rage, Vegeta should've become one during MY WRATH.

Or Goku when he found Krillin dead at the tournament grounds.

[DNA]

I'm confused with the third point you're trying to make, but it reminds me that I strongly disbelieve that in order to achieve Super Saiyan a Saiyan has to have a certain power level. That's not only ridiculous, it was never stated anywhere official and the franchise itself contradicts it.

I dunno, if it was just based on rage, Vegeta should've become one during MY WRATH.

Or Goku when he found Krillin dead at the tournament grounds.

Just because I said I disbelieve that a certain power level is required, it does not mean that immense rage is the only factor.

[Kamiccolo9]

Just because I said I disbelieve that a certain power level is required, it does not mean that immense rage is the only factor.

What would you say the other factors are?