Why does Goku hate Cell?

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Why does Goku hate Cell?

Post by Kid Buu » Tue Jul 23, 2013 8:58 pm

All Cell wanted to do is get stronger and test his strength, how can Goku hate a man who has the same ideology as himself?

For example:

Piccolo: Gives him a Senzu Bean and lets him go
Vegeta: Lets him go
Freeza: Gives him energy and lets him go
Majin Buu: Doesnt kill him when he had the chance
Cell: GOHAN KILL HIM AS FAST AS YOU CAN

He appreciates all strong fighters....except Cell?
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Re: Why does Goku hate Cell?

Post by Ajay » Tue Jul 23, 2013 9:17 pm

Uh...

There's a big difference between hunting to sustain your life whilst you train and massacring an entire population for their energy. Not only that but Cell's intention was to destroy Earth following the games not to just prove himself as the best fighter. I think the rest is fairly self explanatory - Goku will always protect Earth and his family from whatever threatens it.
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Re: Why does Goku hate Cell?

Post by TheGmGoken » Tue Jul 23, 2013 9:24 pm

Are you serious? If not please be so. This site it not a place for trolls. Not on topic. Goku didn't hate Cell. In fact quite the opposite. They both respect each other. They're just on other sides of the alignment.

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Re: Why does Goku hate Cell?

Post by ABED » Tue Jul 23, 2013 10:31 pm

Please, not another dumb thread like the "why did trunks kill King Cold" thread.
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Re: Why does Goku hate Cell?

Post by TheGmGoken » Tue Jul 23, 2013 10:35 pm

ABED wrote:Please, not another dumb thread like the "why did trunks kill King Cold" thread.
Next thing you know. We'll be getting "What race is Kami and Piccolo?". I know this might be against the rules to say this and I'm seriously sorry to the admins but was a stupid thread like this needed? If you don't have anything to talk about in a debate or discussion then please don't just type unneeded threads like these just so you can say you posted something.

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Re: Why does Goku hate Cell?

Post by Kamiccolo9 » Tue Jul 23, 2013 10:55 pm

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ABED wrote:Please, not another dumb thread like the "why did trunks kill King Cold" thread.
Next thing you know. We'll be getting "What race is Kami and Piccolo?". I know this might be against the rules to say this and I'm seriously sorry to the admins but was a stupid thread like this needed? If you don't have anything to talk about in a debate or discussion then please don't just type unneeded threads like these just so you can say you posted something.
If it bothers you that much, you could, you know, just ignore the thread and let the moderators sort it out if needed. By commenting on it, you're just drawing more attention to it.
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Re: Why does Goku hate Cell?

Post by TheGmGoken » Tue Jul 23, 2013 10:57 pm

But it doesn't bothers me =/. I'm saying it's unneeded.

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Re: Why does Goku hate Cell?

Post by Kamiccolo9 » Tue Jul 23, 2013 11:02 pm

TheGmGoken wrote:But it doesn't bothers me =/. I'm saying it's unneeded.
You've said so. He's entitled to make whatever thread he wants. If it violates the rules, then one of the mods will lock it. If you feel that a thread is unneeded, then don't comment on it.
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Re: Why does Goku hate Cell?

Post by TheGmGoken » Tue Jul 23, 2013 11:06 pm

Kamiccolo9 wrote:
TheGmGoken wrote:But it doesn't bothers me =/. I'm saying it's unneeded.
You've said so. He's entitled to make whatever thread he wants. If it violates the rules, then one of the mods will lock it. If you feel that a thread is unneeded, then don't comment on it.
When did I say it bothers me. All I said it was unneeded. Here' my original post
Next thing you know. We'll be getting "What race is Kami and Piccolo?". I know this might be against the rules to say this and I'm seriously sorry to the admins but was a stupid thread like this needed? If you don't have anything to talk about in a debate or discussion then please don't just type unneeded threads like these just so you can say you posted something.
Never did I say bothers. I understand that he's entitled but isn't quite common sense for something like this.

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Re: Why does Goku hate Cell?

Post by Kid Buu » Tue Jul 23, 2013 11:10 pm

All I'm trying to say is, I find it strange that Son Goku wanted Cell dead as soon as possible, but did not want Piccolo, Vegeta, Freeza, & Majin Buu dead ASAP.
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Re: Why does Goku hate Cell?

Post by Kamiccolo9 » Tue Jul 23, 2013 11:13 pm

Kid Buu wrote:All I'm trying to say is, I find it strange that Son Goku wanted Cell as soon as possible, but did not want Piccolo, Vegeta, Freeza, & Majin Buu dead ASAP.
I found that odd as well. He specifically told Gohan to kill Cell, when he had already spared Freeza and Vegeta, who were just as bad, and Piccolo, who, for all he knew, would be just as bad.
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Re: Why does Goku hate Cell?

Post by TheGmGoken » Tue Jul 23, 2013 11:15 pm

Kid Buu wrote:All I'm trying to say is, I find it strange that Son Goku wanted Cell dead as soon as possible, but did not want Piccolo, Vegeta, Freeza, & Majin Buu dead ASAP.
This should have been the question. What you said earlier is just weird. Perhaps he saw Cell as more of a threat.

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Re: Why does Goku hate Cell?

Post by IAmAwesome » Tue Jul 23, 2013 11:16 pm

I was confused. But the way you explained it now is much better. The way you asked earlier made it seem like you were a troll. You should work on your wording and explanation of things. But didn't Cell last longer than Boo. I thought Boo was only around for 1 - 3 days at most.
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Re: Why does Goku hate Cell?

Post by Kid Buu » Tue Jul 23, 2013 11:29 pm

Original post edited.
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Re: Why does Goku hate Cell?

Post by TheGmGoken » Tue Jul 23, 2013 11:35 pm

Kid Buu wrote:Original post edited.
Maybe he saw Cell as more of a threat because he got all of their skills and attacks plus he can regenerate...well Boo can as well but Goku had more confident in beating Boo IMO. But with Cell it was like if Gohan loses WE're FUCKED.
I thought Boo was only around for 1 - 3 days at most.
How long did Boo last on Earth and Kaio Planet.

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Re: Why does Goku hate Cell?

Post by Kakarot88 » Tue Jul 23, 2013 11:50 pm

Look at facts:

Piccolo:
Goku beat Piccolo = no longer a threat him so gives Piccolo a Senzu

Vegeta:
Goku and crew chase off Vegeta= do not give him a Senzu (not that he had any on deck at the time) but let him live so he can test his strength against the last survivor of his race

Freeza:
Goku handily outclasses 100% Freeza= give cut in half 100% some energy because Freeza is no longer a threat to him

Fat Boo:
Goku says to Vegeta that he could have beat fat boo when they first fought but held back when he saw what the squirts [Goten and Trunks] could do...again Goku outclassed an opponent so he does not need to make sure that the opponent is not a threat to the Earth because Goku already could save the earth

Cell:
Goku wants Cell dead because the only person who could contend with him was Mr. Disappointment, his first born, the ultimate let down choke extraordinaire...the kid could have saved Earth with no casualties but he gets his Dad and Trunks killed -_- ...Seriously after a year with Gohan trapped in a room Goku would rather stay dead than see him. All kidding aside Cell outclassed Goku so Goku wants to make sure he can be put down and Gohan was being cocky so he emphatically tells Gohan to kill the guy before Cell does anything terrible...HOLD UP! Cell inflates self to blow up planet and all cuz Mr. Disapointment did what he did best...let down his team...without Vegeta blasting Cell it seems to me that Cell would have won.
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Re: Why does Goku hate Cell?

Post by Kamiccolo9 » Tue Jul 23, 2013 11:59 pm

Kakarot88 wrote:Look at facts:

Piccolo:
Goku beat Piccolo = no longer a threat him so gives Piccolo a Senzu

Vegeta:
Goku and crew chase off Vegeta= do not give him a Senzu (not that he had any on deck at the time) but let him live so he can test his strength against the last survivor of his race

Freeza:
Goku handily outclasses 100% Freeza= give cut in half 100% some energy because Freeza is no longer a threat to him

Fat Boo:
Goku says to Vegeta that he could have beat fat boo when they first fought but held back when he saw what the squirts [Goten and Trunks] could do...again Goku outclassed an opponent so he does not need to make sure that the opponent is not a threat to the Earth because Goku already could save the earth

Cell:
Goku wants Cell dead because the only person who could contend with him was Mr. Disappointment, his first born, the ultimate let down choke extraordinaire...the kid could have saved Earth with no casualties but he gets his Dad and Trunks killed -_- ...Seriously after a year with Gohan trapped in a room Goku would rather stay dead than see him. All kidding aside Cell outclassed Goku so Goku wants to make sure he can be put down and Gohan was being cocky so he emphatically tells Gohan to kill the guy before Cell does anything terrible...HOLD UP! Cell inflates self to blow up planet and all cuz Mr. Disapointment did what he did best...let down his team...without Vegeta blasting Cell it seems to me that Cell would have won.
Piccolo is still a threat. Goku barely won. Both Vegeta and Freeza are capable of showing up out of nowhere the next day and blowing up the planet. Vegeta was actually going to do this until he found out that Freeza was after the Dragon Balls. Goku sparing Buu ended up with the death of practically the entire human race. Oops.
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Re: Why does Goku hate Cell?

Post by Kakarot88 » Wed Jul 24, 2013 12:05 am

Kamiccolo9 wrote:
Kakarot88 wrote:Look at facts:

Piccolo:
Goku beat Piccolo = no longer a threat him so gives Piccolo a Senzu

Vegeta:
Goku and crew chase off Vegeta= do not give him a Senzu (not that he had any on deck at the time) but let him live so he can test his strength against the last survivor of his race

Freeza:
Goku handily outclasses 100% Freeza= give cut in half 100% some energy because Freeza is no longer a threat to him

Fat Boo:
Goku says to Vegeta that he could have beat fat boo when they first fought but held back when he saw what the squirts [Goten and Trunks] could do...again Goku outclassed an opponent so he does not need to make sure that the opponent is not a threat to the Earth because Goku already could save the earth

Cell:
Goku wants Cell dead because the only person who could contend with him was Mr. Disappointment, his first born, the ultimate let down choke extraordinaire...the kid could have saved Earth with no casualties but he gets his Dad and Trunks killed -_- ...Seriously after a year with Gohan trapped in a room Goku would rather stay dead than see him. All kidding aside Cell outclassed Goku so Goku wants to make sure he can be put down and Gohan was being cocky so he emphatically tells Gohan to kill the guy before Cell does anything terrible...HOLD UP! Cell inflates self to blow up planet and all cuz Mr. Disapointment did what he did best...let down his team...without Vegeta blasting Cell it seems to me that Cell would have won.
Piccolo is still a threat. Goku barely won. Both Vegeta and Freeza are capable of showing up out of nowhere the next day and blowing up the planet. Vegeta was actually going to do this until he found out that Freeza was after the Dragon Balls. Goku sparing Buu ended up with the death of practically the entire human race. Oops.
Goku > greater than all of them at the point of those moments. (except Vegeta, he needed help with that one). Goku knew all of Piccolo's moves by that point Piccolo was beaten...the manga makes that pretty darn clear...with no functioning limbs Goku beat Piccolo. Freeza had one arm and just a shared bit of Goku's energy, Freeza was not a threat. Goku continuously said (paraphrasing) "so what what if everyone gets killed by Boo we have the dragon balls...by all accounts I should not even be here this is a fight for those who are alive it's their world." Even Piccolo offers up all of the Earthlings to Super Boo to stall for time.

So again Cell was a much bigger threat at that moment because the planet's fate was in the hands of an 11 year old boy who had a track record for failing to come through.
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Re: Why does Goku hate Cell?

Post by mAcChaos » Wed Jul 24, 2013 12:07 am

I figured it was because he learned his lesson after Freeza.

With Freeza he saw how things can backfire when his opponent gets desperate, so he wanted Cell to be finished off before he got to that point.
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Re: Why does Goku hate Cell?

Post by TheGmGoken » Wed Jul 24, 2013 12:09 am

11 year old boy who had a track record for failing to come through.
9-10*. Anyways. What track record? Only time he failed was with Nappa when both Krillin and Piccolo attacked him. Goku wasn't even there. Gohan hasn't really failed and it was Goku's fault for not knowing his son as Piccolo said. He doesn't like fighting.

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