"DBZ: Battle of Z" (360/PS3/Vita) On-Going Discussion Thread

[dbboxkaifan]

^ You're forgetting that there's a huge arena background whereas wrestling games are just in a stage more or less.

[Kamiccolo9]

Are the graphics really the thing worth nit picking about ?

In 2013? Definitely because if not we could have had this game in 2002. 8 characters, big whoop. Has anybody here ever played a WWE game? 8 players in a ring at once with way more moves than any characters in any DBZ game... Not to mention the amount of detail in the character models.. So yea, when nothing new is being brought to the table I'm definitely gonna be complaining about graphics, especially for a $60 game that won't even be good enough for a sequel.

In WWE games you don't get rapidly knocked 50 feet away cross detailed backgrounds at high speeds with 8 people on the screen, and with numerous special effects for energy blasts, and full freedom to move both horizontally and vertically across much larger stages. Not to mention that the characters in this game move much faster than the characters in said WWE games. It makes no sense to compare this to WWE games.

[Silkman3003]

Are the graphics really the thing worth nit picking about ?

In 2013? Definitely because if not we could have had this game in 2002. 8 characters, big whoop. Has anybody here ever played a WWE game? 8 players in a ring at once with way more moves than any characters in any DBZ game... Not to mention the amount of detail in the character models.. So yea, when nothing new is being brought to the table I'm definitely gonna be complaining about graphics, especially for a $60 game that won't even be good enough for a sequel...

Spoiler:

In all seriousness, it's pretty pointless to compare a wrestling game to this game. Especially a wrestling series thats been taking away moves and features as the years go by, advertising them as new in the sequels, broken online and has been deemed as mediocre compared to early WWE/WWF games.

Both games aren't even remotely comparable. At all. You're better off comparing it to Tenkaichi.

[TheGmGoken]

Definitely because if not we could have had this game in 2002. 8 characters, big whoop. Has anybody here ever played a WWE game? 8 players in a ring at once with way more moves than any characters in any DBZ game... Not to mention the amount of detail in the character models

Have you played a WWE game before? The graphics ever since 2010 has been downgraded and nt even good. SVR 2007 had better graphics than the PS3 and Xbox WWE GAMES. The arena crowd looks like paper STILL and the models Looks like clay. The ps2 models were MUCH better.

[TheLegendaryGohan]

Are the graphics really the thing worth nit picking about ?

I'm sorry but I'm with the other user on this one. What is with people online that like to pretend like graphics don't mean anything? You guys know you care about how games look. If you didn't we would still be working with pacman level visuals here. I don't get it its like the majority of people online only try to pretend like they don't care but in reality when you look at AAA titles then turn back to this, you are going to care. Anyway, in 2013 graphics are a big deal. This guy brings up a point although maybe not in the best way but a point nonetheless. Everyone is blindly trying so hard to defend the game they don't even want to address it. What's next, gameplay won't matter either? The story won't matter. Stop fronting, graphics do matter and everyone knows it. I too would appreciate if the visuals were better than the last DBZ game from a few years ago. If I go to that old game and it looks better than the new one, there is a problem whether you choose to act like its not there or recognize it. This game looks really bad in terms of visuals. There is no "well it's kind of okay if maybe we just say its from the manga and that's the excuse for why it looks like shit" or there will be other stuff on the screen so graphics got downgraded.
I think it's because it is also going to vita so graphics have to work for that as well, so we all got screwed over for it. Or the "it's a new developer" excuse could work too.

Anyway sorry I just really dislike how everyone is all oh yeah psshhh graphics don't matter to me online but when it comes to the game they want to cry about how bad it looks and blah blah blah. I think they do matter. Again I am sorry for going on and on.

P.S. I love how everyone is trying to ignore what his comment is really about and focus on the WWE part to ignore the fact that this game looks terrible. Honestly it is comparable to the Budokai Tenkaichi series to me (I know one of you out there is going to write a reply focused on this one comment to explain how absurd you think that sounds) but don't because it is my opinion.

[TheGmGoken]

You guys know you care about how games look.

Is thhat why I still play games with graphics like the PS1? Pssh. Not EVERYONE ares about the graphics.

If you didn't we would still be working with pacman level visuals

Pac-man got great graphics.

Everyone is blindly trying so hard to defend the game they don't even want to address it.

They''re not trying. Them making good points. Till we at least get a demo we can't really judge from what we saw at an EXPO. If that's the case then COD would't have gotten popular nor would most Nintendo games.

What's next, gameplay won't matter either?

No offence. That's dumb to say. The gameplay makes the game. I doubt ANYONE will say that. Since the gameplay is the game.

The story won't matter.

Call of Duty. Nuff said. Most people don't play the story. They just go online

graphics do matter and everyone knows it.

Your opinion. Not everyone's. It really doesn't to me as long as the GP is good. WWF No mercy was proof of that.

If I go to that old game and it looks better than the new one, there is a problem whether you choose to act like its not there or recognize it.

WWE games Nuff said. SVR 2007 graphics > all future WWE games. Yet people still buy and judge them.

This game looks really bad in terms of visuals.

DBZ the ANIME had bad animation a lot of times.

There is no "well it's kind of okay if maybe we just say its from the manga and that's the excuse for why it looks like shit" or there will be other stuff on the screen so graphics got downgraded.

Why say that? You do know that actually what happens right? If to muchs tuff on a screen at once. The graphics do downgrade.

I think they do matter. Again I am sorry for going on and on.

You should say sorry for talking like your opinion is fact.

[Big Momma]

Good graphics are awesome, but they should not make or break a game.

[vince90x]

Definitely because if not we could have had this game in 2002. 8 characters, big whoop. Has anybody here ever played a WWE game? 8 players in a ring at once with way more moves than any characters in any DBZ game... Not to mention the amount of detail in the character models

Have you played a WWE game before? The graphics ever since 2010 has been downgraded and nt even good. SVR 2007 had better graphics than the PS3 and Xbox WWE GAMES. The arena crowd looks like paper STILL and the models Looks like clay. The ps2 models were MUCH better.

Ok we'll then I'll say that the WWE games on the ps2 look better than this game that's about to come out at the end of the ps3s cycle... What now?

[Hellspawn28]

Nice graphics are good to have, but you don't need them. As long if the game is fun then that's what I care about. I mean I seen movies and shows with awful CG, but I will enjoy them if they have good writing, acting and characters. Anyone thinking a game from 2002 looks better if nuts. Sorry, but a 11 game year old game looks nowhere as good as a 2013 video game. Battlefield 1942 is one of the best looking games of 2002 and Battle of Z looks better.

[TheGmGoken]

I'll say that the WWE games on the ps2 look better than this game that's about to come out at the end of the ps3s cycle... What now?

What you mean what now? It's true. SVR 2007 graphics > WWE 13 and WWE 2k 14. Since 2k 14 graphics are similar.

[vince90x]

I'll say that the WWE games on the ps2 look better than this game that's about to come out at the end of the ps3s cycle... What now?

What you mean what now? It's true. SVR 2007 graphics > WWE 13 and WWE 2k 14. Since 2k 14 graphics are similar.

You're a genius.. So that makes the game even less appealing. The ps2 games looked better than the ps3 games. Those ps2 games look better than this ps3 game... I don't know how else you want it said.

The fact that you can even compare a ps2 games graphics to these are just comical

[TheGmGoken]

I'll say that the WWE games on the ps2 look better than this game that's about to come out at the end of the ps3s cycle... What now?

What you mean what now? It's true. SVR 2007 graphics > WWE 13 and WWE 2k 14. Since 2k 14 graphics are similar.

You're a genius.. So that makes the game even less appealing. The ps2 games looked better than the ps3 games. Those ps2 games look better than this ps3 game... I don't know how else you want it said.

Not really. Had the gameplay been better than SVR 2007 the other WWE games would be good as well. Graphics don't mean anything IMO. WWF No mercy is one of the best games of wrestling out there. The graphics are far less worst than WWE 13. The Legend of Zelda games got better graphics but the older games are better IMO. So graphics doesn't really mean anything.

The fact that you can even compare a ps2 games graphics to these are just comical

Comical as in because I think they're better or comical as in it's sad that the games graphics decreased? I can name lots of Ps2 games that have better graphics than PS3 games.

[SparkyPantsMcGee]

I don't get it its like the majority of people online only try to pretend like they don't care but in reality when you look at AAA titles then turn back to this, you are going to care. Anyway, in 2013 graphics are a big deal. This guy brings up a point although maybe not in the best way but a point nonetheless. Everyone is blindly trying so hard to defend the game they don't even want to address it. What's next, gameplay won't matter either? The story won't matter. Stop fronting, graphics do matter and everyone knows it.
P.S. I love how everyone is trying to ignore what his comment is really about and focus on the WWE part to ignore the fact that this game looks terrible. Honestly it is comparable to the Budokai Tenkaichi series to me (I know one of you out there is going to write a reply focused on this one comment to explain how absurd you think that sounds) but don't because it is my opinion.

When it comes to a game the only thing that should matter always is gameplay. As for graphics, meh. A great game with weak graphics is a million times better than a shitty game with great graphics. You can have the game at 1080p, running at 60 frames per second with all the bells and whistles but if you game isn't fun or engaging it's not worth crap. Sure, it's great to gawk at beautiful screenshots and I'm guilty of doing so when they are beautiful but if the worst thing about the game is it's graphics than I couldn't care less. The Gameplay will make up for it. Because when it's all said and done and the technology is miles ahead of where it is now, how the game looked won't matter when I want to back and play it; but how it played will.

And before you ask, why not both. Sure having both would be awesome but again this is the first time this team is working on Dragonball. I'd rather them hit the ground running with great gameplay and improve the graphics as other games come along(which we can assume will happen). These games have been through tight schedules and there isn't time or the budget for these developers to throw together a game that is on par with other AAA titles games. I understand that; As long as the gameplay holds up, I can forgive them because they were smart enough to put what's important first.

[TheLegendaryGohan]

You guys know you care about how games look.

Is thhat why I still play games with graphics like the PS1? Pssh. Not EVERYONE ares about the graphics.

If you didn't we would still be working with pacman level visuals

Pac-man got great graphics.

Everyone is blindly trying so hard to defend the game they don't even want to address it.

They''re not trying. Them making good points. Till we at least get a demo we can't really judge from what we saw at an EXPO. If that's the case then COD would't have gotten popular nor would most Nintendo games.

What's next, gameplay won't matter either?

No offence. That's dumb to say. The gameplay makes the game. I doubt ANYONE will say that. Since the gameplay is the game.

The story won't matter.

Call of Duty. Nuff said. Most people don't play the story. They just go online

graphics do matter and everyone knows it.

Your opinion. Not everyone's. It really doesn't to me as long as the GP is good. WWF No mercy was proof of that.

If I go to that old game and it looks better than the new one, there is a problem whether you choose to act like its not there or recognize it.

WWE games Nuff said. SVR 2007 graphics > all future WWE games. Yet people still buy and judge them.

This game looks really bad in terms of visuals.

DBZ the ANIME had bad animation a lot of times.

There is no "well it's kind of okay if maybe we just say its from the manga and that's the excuse for why it looks like shit" or there will be other stuff on the screen so graphics got downgraded.

Why say that? You do know that actually what happens right? If to muchs tuff on a screen at once. The graphics do downgrade.

I think they do matter. Again I am sorry for going on and on.

You should say sorry for talking like your opinion is fact.

You can still play games on the PS1. I still play the original NFS Hot Pursuit on the PS1. That has nothing to do with whether or not you care about graphics, that just means you like the old games as do I. Has nothing to do with anything.

Don't even know why you took the PacMan thing seriously...I don't even...whatever.

What points are people making? All I see are excuses for Namco and quite frankly I'm sick of their bullshit. You don't judge a game ENTIRELY from what you see at the expo but what do you think it's there for? So we can see what we're dealing with.

This was a hypothetical. Quite obvious actually.

Another hypothetical... -_-

Who the hell said anything about anime visuals and animations in the show? That was due to technical limitations of its time and second, that has literally nothing to do with anything I said.

Moving on...it's 2013. I will once more go back to the mod running on an engine made in the nineties mind you, looks better than this and it has many more characters on screen. Now if a fanmade mod can do this, what excuse is there that Namco can't? It's sad really.

And you should say sorry for the lack of grammatical skills you possess however I am impressed I must say at how you were able to write so much and say absolutely nothing.

[hulkty]

LOL Budokai 1 has better graphics

Did the ban annoy you that much?

Wtf r u talking about...?

[vince90x]

You guys know you care about how games look.

Is thhat why I still play games with graphics like the PS1? Pssh. Not EVERYONE ares about the graphics.

If you didn't we would still be working with pacman level visuals

Pac-man got great graphics.

Everyone is blindly trying so hard to defend the game they don't even want to address it.

They''re not trying. Them making good points. Till we at least get a demo we can't really judge from what we saw at an EXPO. If that's the case then COD would't have gotten popular nor would most Nintendo games.

What's next, gameplay won't matter either?

No offence. That's dumb to say. The gameplay makes the game. I doubt ANYONE will say that. Since the gameplay is the game.

The story won't matter.

Call of Duty. Nuff said. Most people don't play the story. They just go online

graphics do matter and everyone knows it.

Your opinion. Not everyone's. It really doesn't to me as long as the GP is good. WWF No mercy was proof of that.

If I go to that old game and it looks better than the new one, there is a problem whether you choose to act like its not there or recognize it.

WWE games Nuff said. SVR 2007 graphics > all future WWE games. Yet people still buy and judge them.

This game looks really bad in terms of visuals.

DBZ the ANIME had bad animation a lot of times.

There is no "well it's kind of okay if maybe we just say its from the manga and that's the excuse for why it looks like shit" or there will be other stuff on the screen so graphics got downgraded.

Why say that? You do know that actually what happens right? If to muchs tuff on a screen at once. The graphics do downgrade.

I think they do matter. Again I am sorry for going on and on.

You should say sorry for talking like your opinion is fact.

You can still play games on the PS1. I still play the original NFS Hot Pursuit on the PS1. That has nothing to do with whether or not you care about graphics, that just means you like the old games as do I. Has nothing to do with anything.

Don't even know why you took the PacMan thing seriously...I don't even...whatever.

What points are people making? All I see are excuses for Namco and quite frankly I'm sick of their bullshit. You don't judge a game ENTIRELY from what you see at the expo but what do you think it's there for? So we can see what we're dealing with.

This was a hypothetical. Quite obvious actually.

Another hypothetical... -_-

Who the hell said anything about anime visuals and animations in the show? That was due to technical limitations of its time and second, that has literally nothing to do with anything I said.

Moving on...it's 2013. I will once more go back to the mod running on an engine made in the nineties mind you, looks better than this and it has many more characters on screen. Now if a fanmade mod can do this, what excuse is there that Namco can't? It's sad really.

And you should say sorry for the lack of grammatical skills you possess however I am impressed I must say at how you were able to write so much and say absolutely nothing.

He's nothing but a troll disagreeing just to disagree

[hulkty]

Are the graphics really the thing worth nit picking about ?

In 2013? Definitely because if not we could have had this game in 2002. 8 characters, big whoop. Has anybody here ever played a WWE game? 8 players in a ring at once with way more moves than any characters in any DBZ game... Not to mention the amount of detail in the character models.. So yea, when nothing new is being brought to the table I'm definitely gonna be complaining about graphics, especially for a $60 game that won't even be good enough for a sequel...

Spoiler:

In all seriousness, it's pretty pointless to compare a wrestling game to this game. Especially a wrestling series thats been taking away moves and features as the years go by, advertising them as new in the sequels, broken online and has been deemed as mediocre compared to early WWE/WWF games.

Both games aren't even remotely comparable. At all. You're better off comparing it to Tenkaichi.

Holy sh*t! The difference in graphics is just.....pathetic....

[Silkman3003]

And you should say sorry for the lack of grammatical skills you possess .

This just reeks of you being desperate.

[SparkyPantsMcGee]

You can still play games on the PS1. I still play the original NFS Hot Pursuit on the PS1. That has nothing to do with whether or not you care about graphics, that just means you like the old games as do I. Has nothing to do with anything.


...Who the hell said anything about anime visuals and animations in the show? That was due to technical limitations of its time and second, that has literally nothing to do with anything I said.

These two points you made are the ones I want to highlight the most. What he said has EVERYTHING to do with what we are talking about. You don't mind the graphics for NFS Hot Pursuit on the PS1 because the gameplay still holds up. You still have fun with that game even when there are several newer Hot Pursuit games that sport better visuals. The same can be applied to this game now. If the game plays well, what difference does it make if the game isn't the best thing you've seen on the PS3? As the game ages how the game looks becomes more and more irrelevant, but how it plays still matters forever.

As for the anime, he's drawing a parallel. The anime has had some notoriously bad animation and visuals. People on here poke fun at some of the B-team animators all the time. However, we all still love show, we are all on this forum dedicated specifically to Dragonball. Why, because the story holds up. It's the same as gameplay vs. game visuals.

[TheGmGoken]

whether or not you care about graphics, that just means you like the old games as do I. Has nothing to do with anything.

You'll be shocked. People complain that Final Bout graphics suck or that old school games can't be played cause of graphics.

Who the hell said anything about anime visuals and animations in the show? That was due to technical limitations of its time and second, that has literally nothing to do with anything I said.

Animations quality is the Equivalent to Video games graphics. If a 2013 anime looks like a 90's anime. It would be the same issue.

Now if a fanmade mod can do this, what excuse is there that Namco can't? It's sad really.

Mods doesn't equal coding. If that's the case then Tenkaichi3, Budokai 1, and Budokai 3 would have character creator.

And you should say sorry for the lack of grammatical skills you possess however I am impressed I must say at how you were able to write so much and say absolutely nothing.

Don't be a jackass. NOT EVERYONE FIRST LANGUAGE IS ENGLISH so that's not an insult. I did make points. You just ruled them out to fit your opinion. If you want more examples of how graphics doesn't mean shit. Look at Minecraft, Dc Universe Online, Rage, Ghost Recon, and hell even some of the COD games.

This just reeks of you being desperate.

Quite common on the internet. If someone disagree with you. Mock their grammar not knowing who they are and what language they speak.

He's nothing but a troll disagreeing just to disagree

No. I'm speaking my opinion. How am I a troll for that?