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Re: Fanmanga - Dragon Ball New Age

Post by Malik_DBNA » Mon Aug 05, 2013 2:39 pm

Yes, the 2,000,000+ views are the total accumulated views from the pages on my deviantart. This does not include the views on other websites like facebook, comic fury, etc (each which number in 5 figures. The channels on youtube also have numbers in the thousands.

But to clarify, I never stated that my comic was extremely well known. I argued that it is more known than you gave it credit for. I know that Multiverse and Toyble's AF are more well known. They are also promoted far more than my own comic, which plays a significant role in their success. And if each page of my comic only had a couple hundred views, I would agree that my comic is quite obscure and not worthy of merit at all. But what views I do have and the fan base, however small it is in comparrison, would disagree with how generalized you made your assessment. The vast majority of feedback has been positive, with VERY little negative feedback, even on foreign sites. I'm apparently known enough to have been repeatedly suggested as a replacement artist for DBM, and even did an upcoming minicomic for DBM. TFS has apparently read my comic as well. Does that mean I'm well known? No. Does it mean word is getting around? Possibly. I never intended for my comic to "outshine" DBM or AF. I simply wanted to present my take on a continuation of the series, and for hopefully some people to read and enjoy it. What views it gets and everything else is 1000 times more than I had ever dreamed of it becoming. And that's all I care about. Sure it disheartens me to hear someone tear down my work, but when you put something out for the whole world to see, people are bound not to like it. But I choose to keep on keeping on for the people who DO enjoy it. I love doing my series, and in the end, thats all that matters.

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Re: Fanmanga - Dragon Ball New Age

Post by TheGmGoken » Mon Aug 05, 2013 3:36 pm

Those comics are definitely well known fancomics. This is not one of them.
2 million people, 6 big land masses, and 8 translators says otherwise. It's pretty well known. Decent fanbase. I've seen smaller and I've seen bigger.
What? I went on Google and found the definition. Maybe what I mean to say is that Vegeta should go back to being calm, collected and not easily frustrated, like how he was before Goku beat him up.
Stay off of google man. Read a book sometimes. THat's what wrong with people these days. Vegeta just came to Earth to get balls and then beat up Freeza. Even fucking Piccolo had a similar idea(Youth).
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person who supplies the directing or creative intelligence for a project. A highly intelligent person, especially one who plans and directs a complex or difficult project: the mastermind of a robbery. Goku is NONE of those in fighting. He just very skilled. Gero was a mastermind fighter as he had energy eater. Skilled doesn't equal Mastermind.

Also who the hell are you to say fans will hate this? You don't speak for everyone. Okay so his fanbase isn't as big as DBM or AF. Okay and? doesn't make it to small for valid opinions. It's like the Big 3. I've seen MANY other fanfics with only 30 - 32,000. Rarely do I see any fanfics with above 32,000 views. Besides the Big "3" the highest I've seen in 500,000. So this is indeed bigger than MOST fanfics. Why you have to bash everything? I've only seen you make 1 good comment. Didn't you say popularity doesn't make it better? So now you're saying this is too unpopular to have good opinions. Really? Are you serious? In matter of fact I've only seen you make good comments on POPULAR fanfics. You hypocrite. This fanfic got a ggreat fanbase it's just not as big as the other 2 "Big 3" dbz fanfics. That's like saying an amv isn't good despite having all positive comment because it's not viewed enough or an anime isn't good despite great reviews on it because it's isn't popular enough to have valid opinions. That had to be the up most ignorant thing I've seen on this website.

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Re: Fanmanga - Dragon Ball New Age

Post by Dr. Machismo » Mon Aug 05, 2013 3:52 pm

Mastermind is just one of those words that has different definitions. My definition isn't wrong.
2 million people, 6 big land masses, and 8 translators says otherwise. It's pretty well known. Decent fanbase. I've seen smaller and I've seen bigger.
It's STILL not that well known. Don't see what you're saying in your last paragraph, bro.
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Re: Fanmanga - Dragon Ball New Age

Post by TheGmGoken » Mon Aug 05, 2013 4:33 pm

Dr. Machismo wrote:Mastermind is just one of those words that has different definitions. My definition isn't wrong.
2 million people, 6 big land masses, and 8 translators says otherwise. It's pretty well known. Decent fanbase. I've seen smaller and I've seen bigger.
It's STILL not that well known. Don't see what you're saying in your last paragraph, bro.
You can't read? I said this is one of the Big 3 maybe Big 4 and that other fanfics are GREATLY unpopular.compared to those 4. So it's in fact very well known for a fanfic. our logic applies that just because it's less popular than DBM and AF it can't have valid opinions. YET you're stating your opinion is fact and that you speak for everyone. Hypocrite. Since it not popular enough to have opinions according to you. YOUR opinion should't count either. That's how flawed your logic is. That's like saying an anime that not all that popular but yet have great reviews is bad and the reviews doesn't count because it's not popular. So I guess only your opinion counts huh? So only unpopular stuff can have valid opinions and if it's unpopular only your opinion count? SMH twice. The fan opinion on this Matter either if it's not as popular as DBM or AF. THE FANS MATTER.

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Re: Fanmanga - Dragon Ball New Age

Post by dbzfan7 » Mon Aug 05, 2013 4:45 pm

So far I think there is only 3 fan comics more popular. DBM, Toyble's AF, and Youngjiji's AF.
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Re: Fanmanga - Dragon Ball New Age

Post by TheGmGoken » Mon Aug 05, 2013 4:52 pm

dbzfan7 wrote:So far I think there is only 3 fan comics more popular. DBM, Toyble's AF, and Youngjiji's AF.
Hence why I change the Big 3 to the Big 4. I almost forgot about Youngiji lol.

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Re: Fanmanga - Dragon Ball New Age

Post by dbzfan7 » Mon Aug 05, 2013 4:53 pm

TheGmGoken wrote:
dbzfan7 wrote:So far I think there is only 3 fan comics more popular. DBM, Toyble's AF, and Youngjiji's AF.
Hence why I change the Big 3 to the Big 4. I almost forgot about Youngiji lol.
I was contemplating if he was more popular because I originally never heard of him. But I'm pretty sure he is. Even so 4th place is pretty popular.
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Re: Fanmanga - Dragon Ball New Age

Post by Hellspawn28 » Mon Aug 05, 2013 10:43 pm

I don't care if he does some minor tracing since real artist have been known to some minor tracing. I took art classes and one of my teacher used to do comics in news papers during the 70's, he mention that some artist do trace time to time. No one ever bitches about Naho Ooishi tracing on this site :roll: .
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Re: Fanmanga - Dragon Ball New Age

Post by Saiga » Tue Aug 06, 2013 6:28 am

I finished chapter 0, 1 and 2, and I have to say I'm liking it so far. I'm glad you've used an alternate version of GT's events, and I really enjoy your art. It looks good. :)

The plot has me interested so far, however I have to say I dislike some of the concepts, such as Vegeta having a brother (and it's nothing to do with Tarble, it's just common in fanfics) and Rigor being so similar to Raditz in both appearance and how he's introduced. But I still like it, so I will keep on reading and give you my thoughts when I catch up.
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Re: Fanmanga - Dragon Ball New Age

Post by Dr. Machismo » Tue Aug 06, 2013 10:10 am

Also who the hell are you to say fans will hate this? You don't speak for everyone. Okay so his fanbase isn't as big as DBM or AF. Okay and? doesn't make it to small for valid opinions. It's like the Big 3. I've seen MANY other fanfics with only 30 - 32,000. Rarely do I see any fanfics with above 32,000 views. Besides the Big "3" the highest I've seen in 500,000. So this is indeed bigger than MOST fanfics. Why you have to bash everything? I've only seen you make 1 good comment. Didn't you say popularity doesn't make it better? So now you're saying this is too unpopular to have good opinions. Really? Are you serious? In matter of fact I've only seen you make good comments on POPULAR fanfics. You hypocrite. This fanfic got a ggreat fanbase it's just not as big as the other 2 "Big 3" dbz fanfics. That's like saying an amv isn't good despite having all positive comment because it's not viewed enough or an anime isn't good despite great reviews on it because it's isn't popular enough to have valid opinions. That had to be the up most ignorant thing I've seen on this website.
I'm just saying my personal opinion that most fans wouldn't like this.

And wow, it doesn't seem you read the previous comments. The reason why I said this comic wasn't very popular was because Malik_DBNA pointed how I'm the only person who was so critical about his comic. The reason why I appear to be the only person who doesn't like this is because the comic's not very popular. If it was more popular, then there'd probably be more people criticizing it. This comic isn't one of the better known fancomics. The "Big 3" is Multiverse and the two AF doujinshis. And I'm not stating my opinion as a fact.
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Re: Fanmanga - Dragon Ball New Age

Post by dbzfan7 » Tue Aug 06, 2013 1:32 pm

Saiga wrote:I finished chapter 0, 1 and 2, and I have to say I'm liking it so far. I'm glad you've used an alternate version of GT's events, and I really enjoy your art. It looks good. :)

The plot has me interested so far, however I have to say I dislike some of the concepts, such as Vegeta having a brother (and it's nothing to do with Tarble, it's just common in fanfics) and Rigor being so similar to Raditz in both appearance and how he's introduced. But I still like it, so I will keep on reading and give you my thoughts when I catch up.
I share how he looks too much like Raditz and the Brother thing. But the artwork, dialogue, and characters for the most part are done well so I can put it aside.
Dr. Machismo wrote: And wow, it doesn't seem you read the previous comments. The reason why I said this comic wasn't very popular was because Malik_DBNA pointed how I'm the only person who was so critical about his comic. The reason why I appear to be the only person who doesn't like this is because the comic's not very popular. If it was more popular, then there'd probably be more people criticizing it. This comic isn't one of the better known fancomics. The "Big 3" is Multiverse and the two AF doujinshis. And I'm not stating my opinion as a fact.
He didn't say your the only one criticizing it, just that not many people outright don't like it (not a whole lot of negative feedback). Just because there's not many people heavily criticizing it doesn't mean it's not very popular. I'd say a 2 million pages views total, several translations, and viewed in 6 different countries is pretty popular. Probably everyone here has some problems with the manga (including me). But why do people hating something matter?
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Re: Fanmanga - Dragon Ball New Age

Post by TheGmGoken » Tue Aug 06, 2013 3:28 pm

The "Big 3" is Multiverse and the two AF doujinshis.

I said Big FOUR. Your reason 4 people not complaining is stupid. Seriously. It's popular enough 2 have VALID feedback . The fact u said the manga isn't popular enough 4 valid feedback or at least inference it. Just proves how ignorant you are. Being 4th most well known IS popular. I bet if you had a fanfic and someone said your positive feedback was invalid you wouldn't agree.

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Re: Fanmanga - Dragon Ball New Age

Post by Dr. Machismo » Tue Aug 06, 2013 3:34 pm

dbzfan7 wrote: He didn't say your the only one criticizing it, just that not many people outright don't like it (not a whole lot of negative feedback). Just because there's not many people heavily criticizing it doesn't mean it's not very popular. I'd say a 2 million pages views total, several translations, and viewed in 6 different countries is pretty popular. Probably everyone here has some problems with the manga (including me). But why do people hating something matter?

He said that I'm the only one who's been so critical on it. I'm saying that the reason why I appear to be the only so critical on it ... is because not that many people have read it. And those statistics (2 million views, several translations, and viewed in 6 different countries) doesn't change the fact that comic itself STILL isn't all that popular.
I said Big FOUR. Your reason 4 people not complaining is stupid. Seriously. It's popular enough 2 have VALID feedback . The fact u said the manga isn't popular enough 4 valid feedback or at least inference it. Just proves how ignorant you are. Being 4th most well known IS popular. I bet if you had a fanfic and someone said your positive feedback was invalid you wouldn't agree.
I really doubt it's the fourth most popular fanmanga.
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Re: Fanmanga - Dragon Ball New Age

Post by dbzfan7 » Tue Aug 06, 2013 3:38 pm

Dr. Machismo wrote:
He said that I'm the only one who's been so critical on it. I'm saying that the reason why I appear to be the only so critical on it ... is because not that many people have read it. And those statistics (2 million views, several translations, and viewed in 6 different countries) doesn't change the fact that comic itself STILL isn't all that popular.
I don't recall him saying your the only one so critical on it. He said there wasn't a whole lot of negative feedback

Dr. Machismo wrote:I really doubt it's the fourth most popular fanmanga.
I have yet to find anything higher than it other than DBM and the two Af's
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Post by Dr. Machismo » Tue Aug 06, 2013 3:42 pm

dbzfan7 wrote: I don't recall him saying your the only one so critical on it. He said there wasn't a whole lot of negative feedback
Since 2005, you are really the ONLY person who has voiced this much disapproval with my take on the series.
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Re: Fanmanga - Dragon Ball New Age

Post by dbzfan7 » Tue Aug 06, 2013 3:44 pm

Dr. Machismo wrote:
dbzfan7 wrote: I don't recall him saying your the only one so critical on it. He said there wasn't a whole lot of negative feedback
Since 2005, you are really the ONLY person who has voiced this much disapproval with my take on the series.
Congratulations your the most critical. Doesn't mean your the only one who is critical, your just the most critical. I have my problems with the series as well. I can write out a bunch of things I don't like as well.
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Re: Fanmanga - Dragon Ball New Age

Post by Dr. Machismo » Tue Aug 06, 2013 3:46 pm

dbzfan7 wrote: Congratulations your the most critical. Doesn't mean your the only one who is critical, your just the most critical. I have my problems with the series as well. I can write out a bunch of things I don't like as well.
I'm not saying he said I'm the only one critical, but I'm saying that he said I'm the only one who's been so critical to this extent.
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Re: Fanmanga - Dragon Ball New Age

Post by TheGmGoken » Tue Aug 06, 2013 3:47 pm

Dr. Machismo wrote:
dbzfan7 wrote: He didn't say your the only one criticizing it, just that not many people outright don't like it (not a whole lot of negative feedback). Just because there's not many people heavily criticizing it doesn't mean it's not very popular. I'd say a 2 million pages views total, several translations, and viewed in 6 different countries is pretty popular. Probably everyone here has some problems with the manga (including me). But why do people hating something matter?

He said that I'm the only one who's been so critical on it. I'm saying that the reason why I appear to be the only so critical on it ... is because not that many people have read it. And those statistics (2 million views, several translations, and viewed in 6 different countries) doesn't change the fact that comic itself STILL isn't all that popular.
I said Big FOUR. Your reason 4 people not complaining is stupid. Seriously. It's popular enough 2 have VALID feedback . The fact u said the manga isn't popular enough 4 valid feedback or at least inference it. Just proves how ignorant you are. Being 4th most well known IS popular. I bet if you had a fanfic and someone said your positive feedback was invalid you wouldn't agree.
I really doubt it's the fourth most popular fanmanga.
I've been reading fanmanga since 2003-2004. I've never seen anything more popular cept DBM & AF. 2 million & 7 translations
IS POPULAR! Most fanmanga r lucky if they get 12,000. Your reason 4 this manga feedback being invalid is just STUPID
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Re: Fanmanga - Dragon Ball New Age

Post by dbzfan7 » Tue Aug 06, 2013 3:47 pm

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dbzfan7 wrote: Congratulations your the most critical. Doesn't mean your the only one who is critical, your just the most critical. I have my problems with the series as well. I can write out a bunch of things I don't like as well.
I'm not saying he said I'm the only one critical, but I'm saying that he said I'm the only one who's been so critical to this extent.
Which is perfectly fine as not everyone likes everything.
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Re: Fanmanga - Dragon Ball New Age

Post by Dr. Machismo » Tue Aug 06, 2013 3:49 pm

dbzfan7 wrote: Which is perfectly fine as not everyone likes everything.
But the reason why I appear to be the only one so critical is probably because not that many people know of the comic.
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