KentalSSJ6 wrote:Someone please link this forum topic to the creator because when I pointed out some of the flaws in his project he reacted like I murdered a family member. Seriously its like this project has brainwashed its audience into thinking this to be blunt, crap is the best thing to happen to Dragon Ball.
It's interesting how you don't seem to practice what you preach
Then just say you dont like it and leave it at that. Theres no reason to insult or degrade his work.
If you dont like his animation then dont watch it, or go make your own. That simple.
Not this overly the top jacked. Goten(adult_ nor Trunks were NEVER this jacked. Hell Goku isn't really jacked as in big. He small jacked.
I posted a review of the two episodes in my journals on deviantart. Maybe Ill post them here.
My BIGGEST peeve in this whole thing is that he's accepting money for this. People are donating money to "keep the project going" when he owns all the equipment and programs to do the animations, and synching up vocals and sounds is something that can be done in movie maker, so it cant be that. He's also using a lot of free downloadable royalty free music, so his donations cant be going to that either. Most of his voice actors are amateurs, so it cant be hundreds upon hundreds of dollars to employ their services. Sounds to me like its another "send me free money" thing.
I just thought about something. I feel like if this hadn't been so beloved by so many YouTube kids and taken way too seriously, I wouldn't have had nearly as many problems with it. If it had just had a few hundred views and people posting things like, "Hey man... nice effort." then it would be different.
The fact that people are like "OMG FUCK GT THIS SHOULD BE THE TRUE SEQUEL TO Z SEND THIS TO FUNIMATION BECAUSE THEY MADE IT" and each video has millions upon millions of views is what makes me so damn critical of it. The fact that it's getting compared to the original/official material makes us judge it by that standard, which makes it completely awful. To be honest, this is probably the best fan animation done on the series so far, but because it is taken so seriously, that really highlights its weaknesses. It's like believing in flat Earth; it's funny until someone takes it seriously. Then suddenly it's easy to break down all of its weaknesses and expose it for the joke that it is.
Is Dende even that buff? His voice however is way to deep.
Why Dragon Ball Consistency in something such as power levels matter!
Spoiler:
Doctor. wrote:I've explained before, I'll just paraphrase myself.
Power levels establish tension and drama. People who care about them (well, people who care about them in a narrative) don't care about the big numbers or the fancy explosions. If you have character A who's so much above character B, who's the main character, you're gonna be left wondering how in the hell character B, the character we're supposed to care and root for, is going to escape the situation or overcome the odds. It makes us emotionally invested.
If character B doesn't escape the situation in a believable way that's consistent with previous events, then that emotional investment is gone. It was pointless tension, pointless drama made just to suck in the viewer. It has no critical value whatsoever. The audience is left believing that the author can just create whatever scenarios he wants and what happens to the characters is decided by whatever the author wants to happen, regardless of the events that happened in the story. Which, in fairness, is what happens, but the audience wants to be fooled. The audience wants to know that the world they're following has rules. That the world they're invested in isn't going to bend to external factors that are irrelevant to them.
An author can do whatever he wants with the characters, that's not false. But the author should also have the responsibility to make sure it fits in cohesively with the other events in the narrative he has created.
dbzfan7 wrote:Is Dende even that buff? His voice however is way to deep.
Dende isn't a fighter at all. He would be skinny like Kami, and not be built for fighting. He even states that he isn't a fighter, he's a healer
I mean he doesn't really look that buff in episode 1. But he really shouldn't be muscular at all.
Why Dragon Ball Consistency in something such as power levels matter!
Spoiler:
Doctor. wrote:I've explained before, I'll just paraphrase myself.
Power levels establish tension and drama. People who care about them (well, people who care about them in a narrative) don't care about the big numbers or the fancy explosions. If you have character A who's so much above character B, who's the main character, you're gonna be left wondering how in the hell character B, the character we're supposed to care and root for, is going to escape the situation or overcome the odds. It makes us emotionally invested.
If character B doesn't escape the situation in a believable way that's consistent with previous events, then that emotional investment is gone. It was pointless tension, pointless drama made just to suck in the viewer. It has no critical value whatsoever. The audience is left believing that the author can just create whatever scenarios he wants and what happens to the characters is decided by whatever the author wants to happen, regardless of the events that happened in the story. Which, in fairness, is what happens, but the audience wants to be fooled. The audience wants to know that the world they're following has rules. That the world they're invested in isn't going to bend to external factors that are irrelevant to them.
An author can do whatever he wants with the characters, that's not false. But the author should also have the responsibility to make sure it fits in cohesively with the other events in the narrative he has created.
dbzfan7 wrote:Is Dende even that buff? His voice however is way to deep.
Dende isn't a fighter at all. He would be skinny like Kami, and not be built for fighting. He even states that he isn't a fighter, he's a healer
I mean he doesn't really look that buff in episode 1. But he really shouldn't be muscular at all.
He may not be a warrior Namekian, but that doesn't he can't, you know, work out and get in shape. But yeah, there really isn't a need for him to be muscular.
Dr. Machismo wrote:
He may not be a warrior Namekian, but that doesn't he can't, you know, work out and get in shape. But yeah, there really isn't a need for him to be muscular.
He never has shown any will to do any of that. He's skinny even in GT
Why Dragon Ball Consistency in something such as power levels matter!
Spoiler:
Doctor. wrote:I've explained before, I'll just paraphrase myself.
Power levels establish tension and drama. People who care about them (well, people who care about them in a narrative) don't care about the big numbers or the fancy explosions. If you have character A who's so much above character B, who's the main character, you're gonna be left wondering how in the hell character B, the character we're supposed to care and root for, is going to escape the situation or overcome the odds. It makes us emotionally invested.
If character B doesn't escape the situation in a believable way that's consistent with previous events, then that emotional investment is gone. It was pointless tension, pointless drama made just to suck in the viewer. It has no critical value whatsoever. The audience is left believing that the author can just create whatever scenarios he wants and what happens to the characters is decided by whatever the author wants to happen, regardless of the events that happened in the story. Which, in fairness, is what happens, but the audience wants to be fooled. The audience wants to know that the world they're following has rules. That the world they're invested in isn't going to bend to external factors that are irrelevant to them.
An author can do whatever he wants with the characters, that's not false. But the author should also have the responsibility to make sure it fits in cohesively with the other events in the narrative he has created.
KentalSSJ6 wrote:Someone please link this forum topic to the creator because when I pointed out some of the flaws in his project he reacted like I murdered a family member. Seriously its like this project has brainwashed its audience into thinking this to be blunt, crap is the best thing to happen to Dragon Ball.
It's interesting how you don't seem to practice what you preach
Then just say you dont like it and leave it at that. Theres no reason to insult or degrade his work.
If you dont like his animation then dont watch it, or go make your own. That simple.
Not this overly the top jacked. Goten(adult_ nor Trunks were NEVER this jacked. Hell Goku isn't really jacked as in big. He small jacked.
TheGmGoken wrote:
Oh yes use the KAIOKEN picture. Very smart.
Well here is Goku with smaller muscles using Kaio-ken
Why Dragon Ball Consistency in something such as power levels matter!
Spoiler:
Doctor. wrote:I've explained before, I'll just paraphrase myself.
Power levels establish tension and drama. People who care about them (well, people who care about them in a narrative) don't care about the big numbers or the fancy explosions. If you have character A who's so much above character B, who's the main character, you're gonna be left wondering how in the hell character B, the character we're supposed to care and root for, is going to escape the situation or overcome the odds. It makes us emotionally invested.
If character B doesn't escape the situation in a believable way that's consistent with previous events, then that emotional investment is gone. It was pointless tension, pointless drama made just to suck in the viewer. It has no critical value whatsoever. The audience is left believing that the author can just create whatever scenarios he wants and what happens to the characters is decided by whatever the author wants to happen, regardless of the events that happened in the story. Which, in fairness, is what happens, but the audience wants to be fooled. The audience wants to know that the world they're following has rules. That the world they're invested in isn't going to bend to external factors that are irrelevant to them.
An author can do whatever he wants with the characters, that's not false. But the author should also have the responsibility to make sure it fits in cohesively with the other events in the narrative he has created.
Dr. Machismo wrote:He also looks pretty ripped here:
I think are definition or ripped is different. Chiseled is someone who is muscular, but not bulky.
This is ripped
Why Dragon Ball Consistency in something such as power levels matter!
Spoiler:
Doctor. wrote:I've explained before, I'll just paraphrase myself.
Power levels establish tension and drama. People who care about them (well, people who care about them in a narrative) don't care about the big numbers or the fancy explosions. If you have character A who's so much above character B, who's the main character, you're gonna be left wondering how in the hell character B, the character we're supposed to care and root for, is going to escape the situation or overcome the odds. It makes us emotionally invested.
If character B doesn't escape the situation in a believable way that's consistent with previous events, then that emotional investment is gone. It was pointless tension, pointless drama made just to suck in the viewer. It has no critical value whatsoever. The audience is left believing that the author can just create whatever scenarios he wants and what happens to the characters is decided by whatever the author wants to happen, regardless of the events that happened in the story. Which, in fairness, is what happens, but the audience wants to be fooled. The audience wants to know that the world they're following has rules. That the world they're invested in isn't going to bend to external factors that are irrelevant to them.
An author can do whatever he wants with the characters, that's not false. But the author should also have the responsibility to make sure it fits in cohesively with the other events in the narrative he has created.
Dr. Machismo wrote:The term "ripped" is for describing people as muscular. You don't have to look like Mr. Olympia to be "ripped".
Different definitions of the term.
Why Dragon Ball Consistency in something such as power levels matter!
Spoiler:
Doctor. wrote:I've explained before, I'll just paraphrase myself.
Power levels establish tension and drama. People who care about them (well, people who care about them in a narrative) don't care about the big numbers or the fancy explosions. If you have character A who's so much above character B, who's the main character, you're gonna be left wondering how in the hell character B, the character we're supposed to care and root for, is going to escape the situation or overcome the odds. It makes us emotionally invested.
If character B doesn't escape the situation in a believable way that's consistent with previous events, then that emotional investment is gone. It was pointless tension, pointless drama made just to suck in the viewer. It has no critical value whatsoever. The audience is left believing that the author can just create whatever scenarios he wants and what happens to the characters is decided by whatever the author wants to happen, regardless of the events that happened in the story. Which, in fairness, is what happens, but the audience wants to be fooled. The audience wants to know that the world they're following has rules. That the world they're invested in isn't going to bend to external factors that are irrelevant to them.
An author can do whatever he wants with the characters, that's not false. But the author should also have the responsibility to make sure it fits in cohesively with the other events in the narrative he has created.
Dr. Machismo wrote:The term "ripped" would make sense as one having well defined, sculpted muscles. That would logically make sense.
Most Z fighters besides Tenshinhan are Chiseled.
Tenshinhan's more or less as muscular as everyone else.
What I call chiseled is basically what you call ripped. Chiseled is basically what you just said.
Why Dragon Ball Consistency in something such as power levels matter!
Spoiler:
Doctor. wrote:I've explained before, I'll just paraphrase myself.
Power levels establish tension and drama. People who care about them (well, people who care about them in a narrative) don't care about the big numbers or the fancy explosions. If you have character A who's so much above character B, who's the main character, you're gonna be left wondering how in the hell character B, the character we're supposed to care and root for, is going to escape the situation or overcome the odds. It makes us emotionally invested.
If character B doesn't escape the situation in a believable way that's consistent with previous events, then that emotional investment is gone. It was pointless tension, pointless drama made just to suck in the viewer. It has no critical value whatsoever. The audience is left believing that the author can just create whatever scenarios he wants and what happens to the characters is decided by whatever the author wants to happen, regardless of the events that happened in the story. Which, in fairness, is what happens, but the audience wants to be fooled. The audience wants to know that the world they're following has rules. That the world they're invested in isn't going to bend to external factors that are irrelevant to them.
An author can do whatever he wants with the characters, that's not false. But the author should also have the responsibility to make sure it fits in cohesively with the other events in the narrative he has created.
