Vegetto/Gogeta Rank

[RandomGuy96]

Old Kai said that the effect would be greater than fusion.

You sure?

Chapter: 501 (DBZ 307), P6.2-6
Context: Elder Kaioshin gives the Potara to Goku
Elder Kaioshin: “Here! Put this Potara on your left ear! [ ] Put the other one on Gohan’s ear. Just by doing that, you two will be able to merge together! Like with Fusion.”
Goku: “Huh! Re-really!?”
Elder Kaioshin: “Of course. And what’s more, the effect is greater than with Fusion!"

[Axiom]

hhhmmm, ok. I'll look at my copy of the manga when I get home, and post a pic.

[Kakashi]

My bad, Vegetto is much stronger than Gogeta

Someone spouting out opinion as fact again, who'd have thunk

Read the Manga

Goku thinks he needs SSJ to beat Gotenks-Boo when he fuses with Gohan but Old Kaioshin says he can do it in base

SSJ Gogeta ~ Base Vegetto

[RandomGuy96]

Vegetto being much stronger than Gogeta actually is a fact.

[Axiom]

My bad, Vegetto is much stronger than Gogeta

Someone spouting out opinion as fact again, who'd have thunk

Read the Manga

Goku thinks he needs SSJ to beat Gotenks-Boo when he fuses with Gohan but Old Kaioshin says he can do it in base

SSJ Gogeta ~ Base Vegetto

And he transforms into SSJ Vegetto. Your comparison was meaningless.

[Kakashi]

My bad, Vegetto is much stronger than Gogeta

Someone spouting out opinion as fact again, who'd have thunk

Read the Manga

Goku thinks he needs SSJ to beat Gotenks-Boo when he fuses with Gohan but Old Kaioshin says he can do it in base

SSJ Gogeta ~ Base Vegetto

And he transforms into SSJ Vegetto. Your comparison was meaningless.[/quote]

I am talking about Gokuhan and not Vegetto

[hleV]

And he transforms into SSJ Vegetto. Your comparison was meaningless.

And only later realizes just how powerful he actually is.

[Draken]

Then why not revert to base if he was already over 50x stronger than Buuhan? I'm pretty sure it'd be much more humiliating to lose to a base Saiyan than a SSJ.

[hleV]

Then why not revert to base if he was already over 50x stronger than Buuhan? I'm pretty sure it'd be much more humiliating to lose to a base Saiyan than a SSJ.

1. It wasn't about humiliating Boo, it was about saving friends.
2. Vegetto's form makes no difference in how much Boo gets humiliated. Compare 1 vs 50,000 and 1 vs 1,000 to see what I have in mind.
3. Reverting to base wouldn't look cool after going through the trouble of transforming into a SS. (Not only in-universe, but also to the reader.)

[KentalSSJ6]

Youd think someone would have asked Toriyama this question at some point. I dont see why a fan or interviewer just asked whats the potara and fusion dance multipliers. Far as I see it Potara is base PL X base PL and Fusion Dance is base PL + base PL.

[Draken]

I don't think AT was trying to infer "Guys look Vegetto could use less than 2% of his power and beat up the most powerful villain in the series with no effort but it looks cooler this way."
When he transformed he was already a SSJ, but he wasn't sure of his full power. I think he'd start with something greater than 2% against such a mighty foe, which would basically one shot Buu.

Fusion Dance is base PL + base PL.

Because Toriyama doesn't write the series with a calculator and he himself is probably like dafq are these guys' powers when asked.
And I'm pretty sure it's safe to say it's greater than addition or the Metamorians wouldn't go from weak ass + weak ass = impressing Goku.

[KentalSSJ6]

Would base PL + base PL multiplied by a few tens sound more appropriate?

[Kamiccolo9]

Youd think someone would have asked Toriyama this question at some point. I dont see why a fan or interviewer just asked whats the potara and fusion dance multipliers. Far as I see it Potara is base PL X base PL and Fusion Dance is base PL + base PL.

I seriously doubt he cares, or has any idea about fusion multipliers. The way he wrote the story is pretty much "when a strong guy fuses with another strong guy they become an even stronger guy."

[TheGmGoken]

Youd think someone would have asked Toriyama this question at some point. I dont see why a fan or interviewer just asked whats the potara and fusion dance multipliers. Far as I see it Potara is base PL X base PL and Fusion Dance is base PL + base PL.

I seriously doubt he cares, or has any idea about fusion multipliers. The way he wrote the story is pretty much "when a strong guy fuses with another strong guy they become an even stronger guy."

That's how I ook it. Only thing I debate about is potara fusion power up. Only because of Elder Kai's statement. Regular Fusion I really don't care about. To be honest sometimes I doubt they combine the users power. They just gt a huge power up.

[DBZGTKOSDH]

It wasn't about humiliating Boo, it was about saving friends.

He wanted to humiliate Boo to the point that Boo would feel so weak, he would absorb him.

[hleV]

It wasn't about humiliating Boo, it was about saving friends.

He wanted to humiliate Boo to the point that Boo would feel so weak, he would absorb him.

It was about proving Vegetto's superiority over Boo in general, and it makes no difference in which form he does it.

[Axiom]

Didn't media list Gogeta's powerlevel at 2,500,000,000? Meaning Gogeta's base (if going by the multipliers) would actually be weaker than SSJ3 Goku.
Found it



2,500,000,000/50 (for base SSJ) = 50,000,000
Goku's last recorded powerlevel base form = 3000,000
IF Goku could go SSJ3 on Namek = 120,000,000

More than likely the same scenario for Vegetto, I don't think base for would be enough for Buu honestly, even in the Anime it was implied that while Vegetto was stronger, it wasn't by a large margin.

[TheGmGoken]

I don't go by that. That means Cooler > Gogeta Base

[Axiom]

I don't go by that. That means Cooler > Gogeta Base

?? How do you figure? Cooler was still weaker than SSJ Goku by a LARGE margin.

[Saiga]

That same guide that gives the 2,500,000,000 battle power for Gogeta gives Cooler a battle power of 470,000,000 and Broli a battle power of 1,400,000,000.