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What's your explanation on what's wrong with the DB fanbase.

Post by TheGmGoken » Wed Aug 07, 2013 7:28 pm

I think it's pretty obvious that the fanbase of DBZ is not the best(Certainly not the worst...but that's off topic). There are many reasons for this and I'm sure everyone might have a similar reason or can agree on the same reasons. I'm just going to talk about the 3 main reasons.

1. The so many english dubs. I know the Korean dub had 2 dubs(3 if you count the cancelled dub) but from what I've seen there isn't much debate. But with the english dub it's like a war zone. You got videos mocking the dubs. You got people going on a dub that they don't like just to troll. We got Original Funi(Ocean voices), Kai Dub, Original Funi In house, and Orange bricks. Beleive it or not but people do hate on the orange brick dub and praise the original Funi In house. Most of these fans hate the JPN version. Through the DBZ kai dub fans respect it and like it. This also led to a music debate.

2. Toonami DBZ Fans are not Anime fans. Wait no that'll be rude to say. Let's just say a lot of them wasn't anime fans. Some of them don't know even know DBZ is an anime and came from Japan. So they mock other anime and say it's a rip-off(Point this out in this thread http://www.kanzenshuu.com/forum/viewtop ... =7&t=24392). They state DBZ is the strongest fictional everything where they're other comics and anime that can 1 shot Birsu and WHis with a piece of a finger nail.

3. We're divided. We got people bashing other for liking this character and having opinions. some of us can't accept other opinions on the anime and just think they know more than Akira Toriyama himself.
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Re: Your explanation(s) on why the DB fanbase is bad

Post by Ringworm128 » Wed Aug 07, 2013 7:42 pm

Because it's a fanbase on the internet.

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Re: Your explanation(s) on why the DB fanbase is bad

Post by TheGmGoken » Wed Aug 07, 2013 7:44 pm

ringworm128 wrote:Because it's a fanbase on the internet.

You sir just won the internet.

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Re: Your explanation(s) on why the DB fanbase is bad

Post by Ringworm128 » Wed Aug 07, 2013 7:48 pm

Also it's still not the worst fanbase, there's the Sonic fanbase, the Vocaloid fanbase, MLP fanbase, and Naruto fanboys.

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Re: Your explanation(s) on why the DB fanbase is bad

Post by dbzfan7 » Wed Aug 07, 2013 7:50 pm

ringworm128 wrote:Also it's still not the worst fanbase, there's the Sonic fanbase, the Vocaloid fanbase, MLP fanbase, and Naruto fanboys.
SHHHHHHHHHHHHHH. Don't mention that third one. They tend to flood topics if that name is mentioned. I still think Sonic has the worst fanbase. Also there is a lot of rule 34 for the Sonic and unmentionable 3rd fanbase

I consider most casual DBZ fans uneducated as to why they're terrible. Though some are trolls for the sake of it, and some are just bad people when it comes to debates.
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Re: Your explanation(s) on why the DB fanbase is bad

Post by Ringworm128 » Wed Aug 07, 2013 7:52 pm

If they do Mike can just ban them.

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Re: Your explanation(s) on why the DB fanbase is bad

Post by TheGmGoken » Wed Aug 07, 2013 7:52 pm

ringworm128 wrote:Also it's still not the worst fanbase, there's the Sonic fanbase, the Vocaloid fanbase, MLP fanbase, and Naruto fanboys.
I said that already
I think it's pretty obvious that the fanbase of DBZ is not the best(Certainly not the worst...but that's off topic).

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Re: Your explanation(s) on why the DB fanbase is bad

Post by dbzfan7 » Wed Aug 07, 2013 7:55 pm

ringworm128 wrote:If they do Mike can just ban them.
Not even Mike could stop that army.
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Re: Your explanation(s) on why the DB fanbase is bad

Post by DragonBoxZTheMovies » Wed Aug 07, 2013 8:05 pm

Because it's a large franchise with a long, complicated history that appeals to people of all ages from several different countries, and that means you're going to have a lot of sub-fandoms/communities and a good majority of them will have many problems within them. Then it all adds up into a giant heap, making it difficult to find the good communities underneath all of the bad ones.

That, and it originates in Japan and not all Dragon Ball fans can speak Japanese or are even aware of what goes on there, so it's very easy to spread misinformation.



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Re: Your explanation(s) on why the DB fanbase is bad

Post by Kamiccolo9 » Wed Aug 07, 2013 8:10 pm

It's an internet fanbase supported by numerous forums that don't have the rules about civility that this one does. Of course it's gonna be bad.
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Re: Your explanation(s) on why the DB fanbase is bad

Post by Gaffer Tape » Wed Aug 07, 2013 8:45 pm

It's a fandom composed mainly of children. Even though a lot of us here grew up with DB and are bringing more mature perspectives, the franchise keeps gaining new fans, and, naturally, those are going to be kids. And, quite frankly, kids often lack the maturity to handle themselves and debate maturely. I still consider myself to have been a fairly mature kid, but I can still remember plenty of stupid Dragon Ball arguments I got into in middle school and high school.
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Re: Your explanation(s) on why the DB fanbase is bad

Post by Gyt Kaliba » Wed Aug 07, 2013 9:02 pm

Pretty much everything that's already been said, though there's also (though this issue exists with almost any anime, but is particularly bad in this fandom) the issue of dub versus sub. Even if it's the generally accepted Kai dub, there's always gonna be someone somewhere looking to give someone crap for watching that version instead of the sub - or even the reverse is true, dub fans giving sub fans crap. The latter phenomenon is something I've only ever seen in the DB fandom too, curiously enough.
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Re: Your explanation(s) on why the DB fanbase is bad

Post by ABED » Wed Aug 07, 2013 9:12 pm

Kamiccolo9 wrote:It's an internet fanbase supported by numerous forums that don't have the rules about civility that this one does. Of course it's gonna be bad.
That's my problem with so many forums and comment sections, there's no umpire. Comicbookmovie.com is filled with those sorts of obnoxious and juvenile comments.
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Re: Your explanation(s) on why the DB fanbase is bad

Post by Kamiccolo9 » Wed Aug 07, 2013 9:18 pm

ABED wrote:
Kamiccolo9 wrote:It's an internet fanbase supported by numerous forums that don't have the rules about civility that this one does. Of course it's gonna be bad.
That's my problem with so many forums and comment sections, there's no umpire. Comicbookmovie.com is filled with those sorts of obnoxious and juvenile comments.
Agreed. That's why this is the only forum I've joined. People are generally mature here.
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Re: Your explanation(s) on why the DB fanbase is bad

Post by Storm » Wed Aug 07, 2013 9:26 pm

Gyt Kaliba wrote:The latter phenomenon is something I've only ever seen in the DB fandom too, curiously enough.
Ask any group of Cowboy Bebop or Digimon fans what version they prefer. Watch the fire spread.

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Re: Your explanation(s) on why the DB fanbase is bad

Post by Gyt Kaliba » Wed Aug 07, 2013 9:42 pm

Storm wrote:
Gyt Kaliba wrote:The latter phenomenon is something I've only ever seen in the DB fandom too, curiously enough.
Ask any group of Cowboy Bebop or Digimon fans what version they prefer. Watch the fire spread.
I've never seen any dub fans giving sub fans crap in the Digimon fandom though - granted, as fractured as that fandom is over dub and sub too, it probably has happened and I've just never paid witness to it.

As for Bebop - oh lord. :crazy: Never seen it, but given the great cast in both versions...I can see that one being messy.
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Re: Your explanation(s) on why the DB fanbase is bad

Post by Saiga » Wed Aug 07, 2013 9:48 pm

I've seen that with Pokemon and Digimon. I actually prefer the dub for Digimon, but I don't use the dub names any more to be more accurate (and some of the dub names have ridiculous Engrish like Owlmon becoming Aurumon) but I've been called a weaboo for using them. Same with Pokemon, got called a weaboo for saying that Gary's game counterpart name is Green (Japanese version) when it's 'Blue' in the localised games (which are, according to the same people, the canon versions).
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Re: Your explanation(s) on why the DB fanbase is bad

Post by dbzfan7 » Wed Aug 07, 2013 9:51 pm

Saiga wrote:I've seen that with Pokemon and Digimon. I actually prefer the dub for Digimon, but I don't use the dub names any more to be more accurate (and some of the dub names have ridiculous Engrish like Owlmon becoming Aurumon) but I've been called a weaboo for using them. Same with Pokemon, got called a weaboo for saying that Gary's game counterpart name is Green (Japanese version) when it's 'Blue' in the localised games (which are, according to the same people, the canon versions).
I prefer the Japanese as the soundtrack is so much better. Though I did like 2 songs in 02.
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Re: Your explanation(s) on why the DB fanbase is bad

Post by Storm » Wed Aug 07, 2013 9:56 pm

I think...pretty much everything in JP Digimon blows the dub out of the water, cast, music, scripting...

I mean, Ryuzaboro Ohtomo as Vamdemon, no contest.

Also, I've seen dub fans complain about different music and writing and whatnot.

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Re: Your explanation(s) on why the DB fanbase is bad

Post by goku the krump dancer » Wed Aug 07, 2013 10:10 pm

Is there anything ever, with a good fanbase? I mean even Jesus has his share of closed minded supporters..
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