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Theory on how much power it takes to destroy planets

Post by TheGmGoken » Tue Aug 06, 2013 9:21 pm

Ripping this from this fan made video http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ccAYNX3bmCI. Yes I know DBz doesn't use all these math and science but this is pretty simple enough to fit into DBZ. Let's say it takes a power level of 10,000 to destroy Earth. The Earth mass is 1. The mass controls how hard or easy it takes to destroy it. I'll use the moon, stars, and Pluto as well.
made this video for a few reasons, one to prove to people that no one in Dbz-Dbgt can destroy the Galaxy.
Moon - Mass - 0.0123 - Power level - 123
Pluto - mass - 0.0021 - Power level - 21(Maybe with the rate technology going. We can build heat suits go to pluto. ANd punch it and destroy the planet. )
Mercury - Mass - 0.0551 - Power level 551
Ganymed - Mass - 0.0250 - Power level 220
Mars - Mass .1070 - power level - 1,070
Venus - Mass - 8,150 - Power level - 8,150
Namek - Mass - .9200 - POwer level - 9,200
Earth - Mass - 1 - 10,000
Gliese 581 D - Mass - 7.0900 - Power Level - 70,900
Planet Vegeta - Mass - 10 - 100,000
URanus - Mass - 14.536 - Power level - 145,360
Neptune - Mass 171.1470 - Power level 171, 470
Saturn - Mass - 95.159 - Power - 951,590
Jupiter - Mass 317.83 - Power - 3,178,300
Sun - Mass 332,768 - Power - 3,329,000,000 billion
Gliese 581 - Mass 106,644 - power - 1,066,440,000
World of Kai - Mass 831,920(The mass come from the dumbest of Supreme Kai) - Power - 8,332,500,000
Vy Canis Majoris - mass 13,318,000 - power - 133,180,000,000

This one I don't agree with but here goes.

Galaxy- Mass - 193.111 quadrillion - power - 193.111 Quintillion .
Dragonball Universe - Mass 3.1 Sextillion - power - 3.1 Septillion
Hypothetical OUR universe - mass 19.311 Octillion - Poweer 19.311 Nonillion.

So what's your opinion on these theories. I would Nerf the Galaxy mass for DBZ's sake.

P.S: Off topic but here a funny comment from the video:
Broly is equal or greater than that of a super saiyan 2 because in Raging blast "what if " story Broly becomes a super saiyan 3 and goku said you first you had to go SSJ then SSJ2 inorder to become a super saiyan 3. So Broly used his legendary form as a subsitute for the SSJ2. And any way i tested Cell vs Broly on COM vs COM and Broly wiped him clean.

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Re: Theory on how much power it takaes to destroy planets

Post by Saiyatonian » Tue Aug 06, 2013 10:08 pm

What makes the Dragonball Universe different from our universe?
Is it possible to watch DBZ with epilepsy?

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Post by TheGmGoken » Tue Aug 06, 2013 10:10 pm

Saiyatonian wrote:What makes the Dragonball Universe different from our universe?
Idk? His video. But I'll say less planets?

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Post by Kamiccolo9 » Tue Aug 06, 2013 10:11 pm

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Post by goku the krump dancer » Wed Aug 07, 2013 1:10 am

Well people like to debate whether or not Vegeta could destroy a planet in the Saiyan arc ( To some thats another "he's talking out of his ass moment"). However we do know Freeza was fully capable of doing so, with ease for that matter. So from that I guess we can say it takes at least a power level of 500,000 to fully reduce a planet to space dust. Freeza's second form basically doubles his strength so now for what its worth, he can create a blast strong enough to waste a planet two times over. Goku after emerging from the rejuvenation chamber has a power level of 3,000,000... 5 hundred thousand multiplied by six is 3 million, so Goku has enough power to destroy a planet 6 times over or he can destroy 6 planets at a time (maybe? I guess?). Goku, now with the 10 fold kaioken he could waste a planet 60 times over now even with this being Dragon Ball thats a bit absurd but hey lol. SSJ is a multiplier of 50 right so Goku's 3 million power level is now 150 million.. If Goku could create a blast that could waste a planet 6 times over in base at that point, as an SSJ that " 6 times over" now becomes an astonishing "300 times over". So SSj namek Goku can create a blast strong enough to completely destroy a planet 300 times over :P lol..

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Post by Hellspawn28 » Wed Aug 07, 2013 1:43 am

Saiyatonian wrote:What makes the Dragonball Universe different from our universe?
It looks like their universe is much smaller since it appears to have only four galaxies from what I can remember. Also people always take Vegeta's destroying the Earth statement way too laterally. People forget that destroying the Earth can mean anything. I never see any prove that Vegeta was going to blow it up completely. Even if he did then he would be a total idiot since he would die in space without food and water.
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Post by Son Edo » Wed Aug 07, 2013 1:57 am

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Post by valfranx » Thu Aug 08, 2013 6:22 am

I prefer these calculations here:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hKQdo6aD04s

made ​​calculations based on how many nuclear weapons are necessary to destroy planets or stars. also made calculations on the physical strength of goku.

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Post by rereboy » Thu Aug 08, 2013 11:22 am

To destroy the universe, it only takes the power to destroy the largest object in it. That and time.

Unless they are discussing the power required to destroy all the universe at once, but why would they want to do that? Even someone like Buu or Brolly who would destroy just for the sake of destroying, destroyed a planet at a time.

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Post by Kamiccolo9 » Thu Aug 08, 2013 11:36 am

rereboy wrote:To destroy the universe, it only takes the power to destroy the largest object in it. That and time.

Unless they are discussing the power required to destroy all the universe at once, but why would they want to do that? Even someone like Buu or Brolly who would destroy just for the sake of destroying, destroyed a planet at a time.
This made me think of something. Say if Cell did destroy the solar system, wouldn't he have killed himself too?
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Post by DBZGTKOSDH » Thu Aug 08, 2013 11:40 am

Kamiccolo9 wrote:Say if Cell did destroy the solar system, wouldn't he have killed himself too?
He would probably use Shunkan Ido.
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Re: Theory on how much power it takaes to destroy planets

Post by Kamiccolo9 » Thu Aug 08, 2013 11:43 am

DBZGTKOSDH wrote:
Kamiccolo9 wrote:Say if Cell did destroy the solar system, wouldn't he have killed himself too?
He would probably use Shunkan Ido.
How? Goku couldn't concentrate when Pure Buu was blowing up the Earth, and he knew where to go. Cell would have to search for someone's ki so that he could teleport, during the middle of a solar system explosion. I don't see how he'd do that.
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Post by rereboy » Thu Aug 08, 2013 11:48 am

Cell can survive in space. As long as the destruction of the solar system didn't kill him, he would just travel to another planet afterwards.

And if Freeza survived Namek's explosion with hardly any Ki and most of his body already gone, then Cell would survive.

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Post by Kamiccolo9 » Thu Aug 08, 2013 11:51 am

rereboy wrote:Cell can survive in space. As long as the destruction of the solar system didn't kill him, he would just travel to another planet afterwards.
That's what I meant though. I seriously doubt he can survive what is essentially a supernova. With the kind of heat that he would generate from blowing up the sun alone, that would wipe him out. Goku is incapable of stopping Buu's planet busting attack later on; how could Cell survive a solar system explosion?
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Post by rereboy » Thu Aug 08, 2013 11:57 am

Kamiccolo9 wrote:
rereboy wrote:Cell can survive in space. As long as the destruction of the solar system didn't kill him, he would just travel to another planet afterwards.
That's what I meant though. I seriously doubt he can survive what is essentially a supernova. With the kind of heat that he would generate from blowing up the sun alone, that would wipe him out. Goku is incapable of stopping Buu's planet busting attack later on; how could Cell survive a solar system explosion?
You are saying that he can generate that kind of power but he can't survive it? Seems kind of illogical.

Either he can generate the kind of power necessary to destroy the solar system in one go, and then I don't see why he shouldn't be able to survive such an attack, or he would destroy the solar system by destroying the Sun, which might cause an explosion greater than the energy expended by him to destroy the Sun. In this last case, he might be in some trouble, but the sun is still somewhat far from Earth so I don't see why he wouldn't have time to get away.

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Post by The Monkey King » Thu Aug 08, 2013 12:06 pm

I think saiyan saga Vegeta could destroy the Earth considering how casually Piccolo (PL 322) destroyed the moon.

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rereboy wrote:Cell can survive in space. As long as the destruction of the solar system didn't kill him, he would just travel to another planet afterwards.
That's what I meant though. I seriously doubt he can survive what is essentially a supernova. With the kind of heat that he would generate from blowing up the sun alone, that would wipe him out. Goku is incapable of stopping Buu's planet busting attack later on; how could Cell survive a solar system explosion?
You are saying that he can generate that kind of power but he can't survive it? Seems kind of illogical.

Either he can generate the kind of power necessary to destroy the solar system in one go, and then I don't see why he shouldn't be able to survive such an attack, or he would destroy the solar system by destroying the Sun, which might cause an explosion greater than the energy expended by him to destroy the Sun. In this last case, he might be in some trouble, but the sun is still somewhat far from Earth so I don't see why he wouldn't have time to get away.
Well, Vegeta could generate a Final Flash capable of possibly destroying Cell, but I doubt he could survive it himself. I doubt that Goku could tank his own Warp Kamehameha, that Tien could tank a Shin Kikoho, etc. Buu's planet busting attack blew himself to bits.
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Post by Insertclevername » Thu Aug 08, 2013 12:21 pm

Don't techniques like the Kamehameha act as multipliers of one's own Ki? So technically one could launch a Kamehameha that could be more than twice the battle power of the user as opposed just shooting a nondescript Ki blast which would be less than their overall strength.
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Insertclevername wrote:Don't techniques like the Kamehameha act as multipliers of one's own Ki? So technically one could launch a Kamehameha that could be more than twice the battle power of the user as opposed just shooting a nondescript Ki blast which would be less than their overall strength.
Exactly. Vegeta can amplify his Final Flash to be strong enough to blow away Cell, who was much stronger than he was. I doubt Vegeta himself could take an attack of that magnitude.
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Re: Theory on how much power it takaes to destroy planets

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Kamiccolo9 wrote:
rereboy wrote:To destroy the universe, it only takes the power to destroy the largest object in it. That and time.

Unless they are discussing the power required to destroy all the universe at once, but why would they want to do that? Even someone like Buu or Brolly who would destroy just for the sake of destroying, destroyed a planet at a time.
This made me think of something. Say if Cell did destroy the solar system, wouldn't he have killed himself too?
Using the survival of explosions as a feat

Time and time again I hear people comparing different explosions of different magnitudes and how characters survive said explosion. What I am about to present might sound like downplaying a feat, but it is not. In no way am I trying to downplay a feat, any person surviving an explosion is impressive indeed. Here's the point that no one ever gives any thought to or wrongfully assumes when comparing durability between characters. When you survive an explosion, you are not surviving the entire energy of that explosion, you are only surviving a small part of it. You have to understand what volume is to move further into my post. This is a unit of volume;

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If an explosion has a length width and height of L, W and H it does not mean that the character survived the entire energy of the entire explosion or supernova, they only survived a small tiny volume inside of this cube. l, h and w. The worse culprit is SCREWATTACK where they simply google how much energy is in a type of explosion and then they give that character that durability number.

googles energy in supernova

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: If you are at ground ZERO of an explosion and survived you would have survived the hottest part of the explosion but again that does not equate to the entire energy of the explosion.

Lastly, people often mistake an explosions power by how far it reaches out. This is not the case. An explosion can have a different kind of energy powering it. For example, natural gas and gasoline mixed with air fill up a balloon. You light it on fire and it explodes. They have the same area and volume practically in their ignition. But Gasoline actually has a lot more energy and gets hotter than natural gas. Propane also gets hotter than natural gas. Same goes with a small TNT explosion and a small nuclear explosion. So a small powerful concentrated blast can have as much energy as a weak large blast. Analyzing blasts requires a lot more to think about.

1. What caused the explosion and what type of energy is it releasing? What is the source of its power?

2. How far was the person from the explosion?

3. Is the person wearing any kind of protective gear?

These are the questions you must ask yourself when you compare an explosion to another one.

example:
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That is not a supernova. Remember a star has to be dozens of times larger than our own star to create a supernova, that one is far too small to be considered one. People make the mistake of saying any star exploding is a supernova. Also,there is no way a planet that close to a potential supernova star can sustain any form of life. Lastly, supernovas last for a few days of sonicbooms. This one did not last even a few hours I don't think.

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