The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by DynasticHunter » Thu Aug 08, 2013 8:41 pm

DBZGTKOSDH wrote:Son Goku vs Son Goku Jr.

Both at their prime. Do you think that Goku Jr. surpassed Goku? Did he ever managed to go beyond Super Saiyan?
Goku Jr is 1/16th of a Saiyan, I doubt he went anything above a SSJ and if he did Goku would rip him a new asshole still.
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Post by PerfectFreeza » Thu Aug 08, 2013 11:23 pm

Nappa vs Misokatsun(the yellow guy with the weird body from Movie 2)
How would that go?
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Post by TheGmGoken » Thu Aug 08, 2013 11:24 pm

PerfectFreeza wrote:Nappa vs Misokatsun(the yellow guy from Movie 2)
How would that go?
Nappa loses because of the that rubber body of Misokatsun.

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Post by dbzfan7 » Thu Aug 08, 2013 11:25 pm

PerfectFreeza wrote:Nappa vs Misokatsun(the yellow guy with the weird body from Movie 2)
How would that go?
You mean Blub Blub?
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Post by Kamiccolo9 » Thu Aug 08, 2013 11:29 pm

PerfectFreeza wrote:Nappa vs Misokatsun(the yellow guy with the weird body from Movie 2)
How would that go?
Didn't Goku have to use Kaio-Ken to beat him?
Then again, I don't really see him hurting Nappa.
I say a draw.
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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by TheGmGoken » Thu Aug 08, 2013 11:30 pm

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PerfectFreeza wrote:Nappa vs Misokatsun(the yellow guy with the weird body from Movie 2)
How would that go?
Didn't Goku have to use Kaio-Ken to beat him?
Then again, I don't really see him hurting Nappa.
I say a draw.
He needed Kaioken because of his rubber body. He didn't have any good feats at all besides that.

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Post by Kamiccolo9 » Thu Aug 08, 2013 11:33 pm

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PerfectFreeza wrote:Nappa vs Misokatsun(the yellow guy with the weird body from Movie 2)
How would that go?
Didn't Goku have to use Kaio-Ken to beat him?
Then again, I don't really see him hurting Nappa.
I say a draw.
He needed Kaioken because of his rubber body. He didn't have any good feats at all besides that.
That's what I'm saying. Nappa wouldn't be able to kill him, but he wouldn't be able to hurt Nappa either. Thus a draw.
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Post by PerfectFreeza » Thu Aug 08, 2013 11:35 pm

He landed 3 hits on Goku, all of them giving him visible pain.
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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by Kamiccolo9 » Thu Aug 08, 2013 11:40 pm

PerfectFreeza wrote:He landed 3 hits on Goku, all of them giving him visible pain.
Did he? I don't remember that.
I'll take your word for it though. So, changing my answer, fat guy takes this.
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Post by TheGmGoken » Thu Aug 08, 2013 11:42 pm

They would be basically fighting all day. It'll go something like this.

Nappa: *BLAST CANON!*
Yellow monster: *Rubber*
Nappa: BOMBER DX!
Yellow: Rubber
Nappa: KAPA(HIS ULTIMATE ATTACK)
Yellow: Rubber.
Nappa: *Explosion attack he did on Goku*
Yellow: Rubber
Nappa: Blazing Storm
Yellow: Rubber

Repeat this for 70 years and you got the battle. That yellow beast wins because in 70s year Nappa be dead.
He landed 3 hits on Goku, all of them giving him visible pain.
He did? Here's the fight(Korean dub) - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7PHnSlumb1E . Unless thats not the full fight....

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Post by PerfectFreeza » Thu Aug 08, 2013 11:47 pm

He punches him in the face, making him spit, hits him in the guts and then smashes him into a wall with Goku hanging on his fist.
Yes, that's not the full fight.The scene, where he lands hits is cut off.
That's one of the hits.
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Post by TheGmGoken » Thu Aug 08, 2013 11:53 pm

PerfectFreeza wrote:He punches him in the face, making him spit, hits him in the guts and then smashes him into a wall with Goku hanging on his fist.
Yes, that's not the full fight.The scene, where he lands hits is cut off.
That's one of the hits.
Just re-watched the fight. Didn't seem like he got hurt that much. So I'll still say Nappa vs Yellow Guy will be endless. Through the yellow guy do got one thing over Goku. He got HITS

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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by DBZGTKOSDH » Fri Aug 09, 2013 9:29 am

DynasticHunter wrote:
DBZGTKOSDH wrote:Son Goku vs Son Goku Jr.

Both at their prime. Do you think that Goku Jr. surpassed Goku? Did he ever managed to go beyond Super Saiyan?
Goku Jr is 1/16th of a Saiyan, I doubt he went anything above a SSJ and if he did Goku would rip him a new asshole still.
Actually, Goku Jr. is 1/64 Saiyan.
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Superman is, and always has been, a symbol for truth, justice, and upstanding moral fortitude–a role model and leader as much as a fighter. The more down-to-earth Goku has no illusions about being responsible for maintaining social order, or for setting some kind of moral example for the entire world. Goku is simply a martial artist who’s devoted his life toward perfecting his fighting skills and other abilities. Though never shy about risking his life to save either one person or the entire world, he just doesn’t believe that the balance of the world rests in any way on his shoulders, and he has no need to shape any part of it in his image. Goku is an idealist, and believes that there is some good in everyone, but he is unconcerned with the big picture of the world…unless it has to do with some kind of fight. Politics, society, law and order don’t have much bearing on his life, but he’s a man who knows right from wrong.

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Post by dbzfan7 » Fri Aug 09, 2013 4:01 pm

DBZGTKOSDH wrote:
DynasticHunter wrote:
DBZGTKOSDH wrote:Son Goku vs Son Goku Jr.

Both at their prime. Do you think that Goku Jr. surpassed Goku? Did he ever managed to go beyond Super Saiyan?
Goku Jr is 1/16th of a Saiyan, I doubt he went anything above a SSJ and if he did Goku would rip him a new asshole still.
Actually, Goku Jr. is 1/64 Saiyan.
How'd you get that?
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Post by TheGmGoken » Fri Aug 09, 2013 4:06 pm

He is Pan's Great Great GrandSon. This would make almost a 100 year age gap between Pan and Goku Jr

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Post by dbzfan7 » Fri Aug 09, 2013 4:13 pm

TheGmGoken wrote:He is Pan's Great Great GrandSon. This would make almost a 100 year age gap between Pan and Goku Jr
Was she his Great Great Grandmother. I thought she was just his Grandmother
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Post by Kamiccolo9 » Fri Aug 09, 2013 4:14 pm

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TheGmGoken wrote:He is Pan's Great Great GrandSon. This would make almost a 100 year age gap between Pan and Goku Jr
Was she his Great Great Grandmother. I thought she was just his Grandmother
There's nothing especially great about Pan, if you ask me :P
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Post by dbzfan7 » Fri Aug 09, 2013 4:15 pm

Kamiccolo9 wrote:
dbzfan7 wrote:
TheGmGoken wrote:He is Pan's Great Great GrandSon. This would make almost a 100 year age gap between Pan and Goku Jr
Was she his Great Great Grandmother. I thought she was just his Grandmother
There's nothing especially great about Pan, if you ask me :P
I never found her that bad. She was a hell of a lot better than Chi Chi.
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Post by Kamiccolo9 » Fri Aug 09, 2013 4:17 pm

Kamiccolo9 wrote: There's nothing especially great about Pan, if you ask me :P
I liked pre Z Chi-Chi. Which is fair, I guess, because I also liked pre-GT Pan.
Sequel series don't really do much for the women in the Son family :P
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Post by DBZGTKOSDH » Fri Aug 09, 2013 4:22 pm

dbzfan7 wrote:
DBZGTKOSDH wrote:Actually, Goku Jr. is 1/64 Saiyan.
How'd you get that?
It's stated that Pan is his great-great-grandmother. Pan being just his grandmother is a FUNi dub thing.
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Superman is, and always has been, a symbol for truth, justice, and upstanding moral fortitude–a role model and leader as much as a fighter. The more down-to-earth Goku has no illusions about being responsible for maintaining social order, or for setting some kind of moral example for the entire world. Goku is simply a martial artist who’s devoted his life toward perfecting his fighting skills and other abilities. Though never shy about risking his life to save either one person or the entire world, he just doesn’t believe that the balance of the world rests in any way on his shoulders, and he has no need to shape any part of it in his image. Goku is an idealist, and believes that there is some good in everyone, but he is unconcerned with the big picture of the world…unless it has to do with some kind of fight. Politics, society, law and order don’t have much bearing on his life, but he’s a man who knows right from wrong.

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