Fanmanga - DB Multiverse

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Re: Fanmanga - DB Multiverse

Post by TheGmGoken » Sat Aug 10, 2013 2:34 am

Fionordequester wrote:Actually, one thing I've been wondering about, I've been skipping basically all the specials, partially because of a lot of their AWFUL artwork, and partially because it feels like filler arcs. Did I miss anything important by doing that?
Bullshit Future Gohan Special which I suggest reading just so you know how shitty it was. The most IMPORTANT thing you missed was Bra's power level when she was born.

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Post by Fionordequester » Sat Aug 10, 2013 2:45 am

Now, see, that special was one of the few I read before just giving up on them entirely. I believe that one was Vegetto being shocked at her power level, and teaching her how to be an intergalactic peace keeper, right?
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Re: Fanmanga - DB Multiverse

Post by TheGmGoken » Sat Aug 10, 2013 2:46 am

Fionordequester wrote:Now, see, that special was one of the few I read before just giving up on them entirely. I believe that one was Vegetto being shocked at her power level, and teaching her how to be an intergalactic peace keeper, right?
Yup. They're basically filler.
Next special will tell how Vegetto was born.
It won't be filled with surprises, but it should be a good read :)
Should't we all know how Vegetto was born? No surprises huh? I guess Boo don't turn him into milk =(

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Post by Marco Polo » Sat Aug 10, 2013 5:28 am

KentalSSJ6 wrote:I really never saw the point of the Star Wars Cantina Band in this comic. I mean talk about out of place.
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Re: Fanmanga - DB Multiverse

Post by rereboy » Sat Aug 10, 2013 7:51 am

hleV wrote:
rereboy wrote: You point was essentially that Vegetto is so powerful that even being small isn't a disadvantage to him, while it is for Goku and Vegeta.
My point was that size doesn't matter for Vegetto because he's Vegetto. Goku isn't Vegetto.
That's what I said your point was. You just repeated in your own words what I said your point was, while ignoring the rest of my posts (and the point of my posts)...

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Post by hleV » Sat Aug 10, 2013 9:42 am

rereboy wrote: That's what I said your point was. You just repeated in your own words what I said your point was, while ignoring the rest of my posts (and the point of my posts)...
Well, either you still don't understand what I meant or I don't understand what the fuck are you arguing about.

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Post by rereboy » Sat Aug 10, 2013 2:43 pm

hleV wrote:
rereboy wrote: That's what I said your point was. You just repeated in your own words what I said your point was, while ignoring the rest of my posts (and the point of my posts)...
Well, either you still don't understand what I meant or I don't understand what the fuck are you arguing about.
Can't explain it more clearly than I did. All I can say is read my posts more carefully. If you still don't understand my point, then there's nothing I can do. You don't have to agree with me of course, but you should at least understand what I say.

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Post by hleV » Sat Aug 10, 2013 3:55 pm

The thing is, I think YOU misunderstood me, because whatever you write doesn't seem to have much to do with my point. Size only matters if you're not Vegetto - that's my point. Nothing that Boo says disagrees with it, that's why I don't see what are you arguing about.

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Post by rereboy » Sat Aug 10, 2013 8:26 pm

hleV wrote:The thing is, I think YOU misunderstood me, because whatever you write doesn't seem to have much to do with my point. Size only matters if you're not Vegetto - that's my point. Nothing that Boo says disagrees with it, that's why I don't see what are you arguing about.
You know, if you actually read carefully my posts like I suggested you would realize that I understood your point perfectly.

Like I stated: "You point was essentially that Vegetto is so powerful that even being small isn't a disadvantage to him". If you read carefully my posts, you will at least read that phrase and you will realize that I always understood what you were saying.

However, my point is that Buu specifically ONLY mentions their size when he talks to Goku and Vegeta. He doesn't mention their size AND power. He didn't say: "it didn't work because you are tiny AND you aren't strong enough". He said: "It didn't work because you are tiny. PERIOD".

That could imply that Buu considers size to be the ONLY relevant factor for why it didn't work.

Now, you can disagree with me and say: "well, he only said that because he didn't feel the need to mention their power, just the main reason why it didn't work. So, he's not implying that size is the only reason why it didn't work, he's just saying that Goku can't do it because he is tiny, even though he could have done if he had his normal size".

That's a valid opinion and no more correct or wrong than mine. However, my opinion is that he is indeed implying that size is the only reason for why it didn't work. They are much smaller than any candy, they are microcospic. So, I believe that Buu indeed implied that power in that case didn't really mattered, only size. Even if they were much stronger the results wouldn't be very different. That's what I believe he is implying.

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Post by hleV » Sat Aug 10, 2013 8:41 pm

rereboy wrote:You know, if you actually read carefully my posts like I suggested you would realize that I understood your point perfectly.
Trust me, I did read them. That's why I came to the conclusion that you missed my point entirely, because you don't seem to go neither with nor against my point.
rereboy wrote:Like I stated: "You point was essentially that Vegetto is so powerful that even being small isn't a disadvantage to him". If you read carefully my posts, you will at least read that phrase and you will realize that I always understood what you were saying.
I said "size doesn't matter because he's Vegetto". Never mentioned power.
rereboy wrote:However, my point is that Buu specifically ONLY mentions their size when he talks to Goku and Vegeta. He doesn't mention their size AND power.
I'm not disagreeing with this point. I'm saying that it doesn't apply to Vegetto because he's Vegetto. But if you want my take on it, I'd say that power may be proportional to size, and Boo meant that thanks to their reduced size, their power got reduced as well.
rereboy wrote:He didn't say: "it didn't work because you are tiny AND you are weaker than Vegetto". He said: "It didn't work because you are tiny. PERIOD".
Yes. And I said that there was no point for Boo to mention Vegetto. Goku & Vegeta are not Vegetto, so they have much more limitations, even if not power-related.
rereboy wrote:That could imply that Buu considers size to be the ONLY relevant factor for why it didn't work.
It's perfectly plausible.
rereboy wrote:Now, you can disagree with me and say: "well, he only said that because he was talking to Goku and Vegeta, so he didn't feel the need to mention Vegetto and how it would work if it was him. So, he's not implying that size is the only reason why it didn't work, he's just saying that Goku can't do it because he is tiny, even though he could have done if he had his normal size".
Whatever the case, Boo didn't have to mention Vegetto. Vegetto was something special, breathing/talking/staying superior to Boo as a candy and all. Once he's out of the game, normal logic applies again. No need to mention Vegetto at all.
rereboy wrote:That's a valid opinion and no more correct or wrong than mine. However, my opinion is that he is indeed implying that size is the only reason for why it didn't work. They are much smaller than any candy, they are microcospic. So, I believe that Buu indeed implied that power in that case didn't really mattered, only size.
I have absolutely no problem with this theory. I just don't get why would you try to counter mine with "Boo said it's because of the size" or "Boo didn't mention Vegetto" when that in no way invalidates my point.

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Post by coola » Sun Aug 11, 2013 4:06 pm

Ok, that was funny :D
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Post by mAcChaos » Sun Aug 11, 2013 4:58 pm

It's not like that will make a difference. Buu will just heal instantly.
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Post by Scarz » Sun Aug 11, 2013 5:05 pm

coola wrote:Ok, that was funny :D
It got a good chuckle out of me too! The art is still great but the lines could be a little to thick at times.

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Post by rereboy » Sun Aug 11, 2013 7:08 pm

hleV wrote: I have absolutely no problem with this theory. I just don't get why would you try to counter mine with "Boo said it's because of the size" or "Boo didn't mention Vegetto" when that in no way invalidates my point.
I say "Boo said it's because of the size" and then explained, several times, that Buu ONLY mentioned size and not power which implies that's the only relevant factor. So, basically I told you my opinion on the matter, in less words than I did in my latest post, and I did so because my opinion is obviously is different than yours. So, when you stated your opinion, I stated mine. However, you only understood my point with my latest post, which is why this discussion is already so extensive.

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Post by Puto » Sun Aug 11, 2013 7:37 pm

Wait, weren't the absorbed victims supposed to be in his head?
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Post by rereboy » Sun Aug 11, 2013 7:40 pm

Puto wrote:Wait, weren't the absorbed victims supposed to be in his head?
I think so, yeah. I had noticed that as well.

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Post by DBZGTKOSDH » Mon Aug 12, 2013 8:00 am

Wait... aren't the ones that get absorbed supposed to be inside Boo's head?
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Superman is, and always has been, a symbol for truth, justice, and upstanding moral fortitude–a role model and leader as much as a fighter. The more down-to-earth Goku has no illusions about being responsible for maintaining social order, or for setting some kind of moral example for the entire world. Goku is simply a martial artist who’s devoted his life toward perfecting his fighting skills and other abilities. Though never shy about risking his life to save either one person or the entire world, he just doesn’t believe that the balance of the world rests in any way on his shoulders, and he has no need to shape any part of it in his image. Goku is an idealist, and believes that there is some good in everyone, but he is unconcerned with the big picture of the world…unless it has to do with some kind of fight. Politics, society, law and order don’t have much bearing on his life, but he’s a man who knows right from wrong.

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Post by Son Edo » Mon Aug 12, 2013 8:09 am

Boo should blow himself up like he did against Gohan, Vegetto wouldn't be able to escape the blast.

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Post by DBZGTKOSDH » Mon Aug 12, 2013 8:46 am

Son Edo wrote:Boo should blow himself up like he did against Gohan, Vegetto wouldn't be able to escape the blast.
You think that Vegetto needs to escape from Boo's blast?
James Teal (Animerica 1996) wrote:When you think about it, there are a number of similarities between the Chinese-inspired Son Goku and that most American of superhero icons, Superman. Both are aliens sent to Earth shortly after birth to escape the destruction of their homeworlds; both possess super-strength, flight, super-speed, heightened senses and the ability to cast energy blasts. But the crucial difference between them lies not only in how they view the world, but in how the world views them.

Superman is, and always has been, a symbol for truth, justice, and upstanding moral fortitude–a role model and leader as much as a fighter. The more down-to-earth Goku has no illusions about being responsible for maintaining social order, or for setting some kind of moral example for the entire world. Goku is simply a martial artist who’s devoted his life toward perfecting his fighting skills and other abilities. Though never shy about risking his life to save either one person or the entire world, he just doesn’t believe that the balance of the world rests in any way on his shoulders, and he has no need to shape any part of it in his image. Goku is an idealist, and believes that there is some good in everyone, but he is unconcerned with the big picture of the world…unless it has to do with some kind of fight. Politics, society, law and order don’t have much bearing on his life, but he’s a man who knows right from wrong.

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