Source of overrating Broly?

[TheGmGoken]

Where you think the "Broly being stronger than everyone" idea came from? Note I put this in the GF discussion because this is NOT a power debate so please don't say well..Broly is this strong and he can beat that. Okay all over the DB fanbase I've seen comments like Broly > ALL GT characters. For example

Dude Dude Dude Omega shenron is nothing compared to broly .... i mean your going to GT Saga you wanna go there? lol we can go to GT saga Bro! :O no one can defeat broly man trust me its like a fact now a days. Go back and watch the hype that broly brings to the table and tell me goku and omega shenron can defeat broly

. Once again not a power debate. If you want a power debate go on In-Universe Thread and go to war there. Don't put that stuff in this. Okay I also see video such as http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dd-tH1p8dy4 saying Broly can't be beaten because Broly is always kicking ass.

Where all of this come from? I can only re-call video games having Broly mach up with Gogeta. Nothing in his movies showed that he's above a SSJ3 or on DBGT level. That's all I'll say about power..sorry for breaking my own rule. Anyways where it come from? Is it quotes from the movie or is it the fact he has he word Legendary in his transformation?

Message to Mod: If this turns into a power debate on Broly...please close this topic.

[DragonBoxZTheMovies]

The kids don't lie:

Come on! Someone had to go there.

[KentalSSJ6]

I think the video games didnt help. In two of them it has him fighting Gogeta head to head so many people just think "oh wow he must be as strong as Gogeta." Another little game called MUGEN and a character called Nightmare Broly is likely the biggest suspect of overhyping him. I dont know why so many people have a hard on for this guy. I mean the majority of characters from the Buu saga could whoop him so hes really not even that strong.

[TheGmGoken]

I think the video games didnt help. In two of them it has him fighting Gogeta head to head so many people just think "oh wow he must be as strong as Gogeta." Another little game called MUGEN and a character called Nightmare Broly is likely the biggest suspect of overhyping him. I dont know why so many people have a hard on for this guy. I mean the majority of characters from the Buu saga could whoop him so hes really not even that strong.

Oh yea. Budokai 3 had him actually causing Gogeta to bleed.

[Eternal Super Saiyan]

And Budokai 3 even places your fight with Broly after you defeat Buu. That's very misleading.

And yes the intros do show him fighting Gogeta, I'm like WHAAT??? No way. He's probably only equal to SP Cell.

[KentalSSJ6]

Exactly. Many fans just see that and automatically assume that makes Broly as strong as Gogeta. Hell in Budokai 3 a alternate story path for Goku pretty much states Broly is stronger than Buuhan (or was it Kid Buu?). When you do that, its gonna screw with a lot of fan's sense of power scaling between characters.

[Son Edo]

I'm pretty sure Budokai 3 has Tenshinhan defeating Gotenks-absorbed Boo.

[TheGmGoken]

Exactly. Many fans just see that and automatically assume that makes Broly as strong as Gogeta. Hell in Budokai 3 a alternate story path for Goku pretty much states Broly is stronger than Buuhan (or was it Kid Buu?). When you do that, its gonna screw with a lot of fan's sense of power scaling between characters.

It was Boohan. Because you could either use with Vegeta or fight Broly. However for Vegeta it takes place after Boohan as Vegeta said Goku can handle Pure Boo and he'll go after Broly or something like that.

[KentalSSJ6]

So yeah, Budokai 3 pretty much states Broly is stronger than Buuhan, which is completely and utterly ridiculous. (On a side note I loved the alternate Gohan story where he takes on Kid Buu instead of Goku and Vegeta).

[TheGmGoken]

So yeah, Budokai 3 pretty much states Broly is stronger than Buuhan, which is completely and utterly ridiculous. (On a side note I loved the alternate Gohan story where he takes on Kid Buu instead of Goku and Vegeta).

From rumors I heard DBGT was suppose to be more included into the story like Baby and 17 super. Which are RUMORS(dont know if true) but imagine if they made into the game and DBGT rolled in and we saw it states the strongest Shenlon < Broly so SSJ4 Gogeta went to fight him instead. Then we got fans who use video game...MATCHES ..not the cut scenes not the dialog..but the versus mode to prove points. Here an example

Broly is equal or greater than that of a super saiyan 2 because in Raging blast "what if " story Broly becomes a super saiyan 3 and goku said you first you had to go SSJ then SSJ2 inorder to become a super saiyan 3. So Broly used his legendary form as a subsitute for the SSJ2. And any way i tested Cell vs Broly on COM vs COM and Broly wiped him clean.

[RandomGuy96]

Almost entirely video games. Broly in the movies pretty much dominated, but all of his foes were very weak (a lot of "casual" fans don't even think Movie 10 Gohan was a SS2 at all), so his reputation for memetic badassery couldn't have come from there. It comes from stuff like him being fought after Pure Buu in Budokai 3, fighting evenly with Gogeta in the opening of the same game, defeating Ultimate Gohan in Budoaki 3 (WTF!?), and just being generally top tier in every game he appears in. In the Tenkaichi series, he for some reason is classified as a 'giant' character, meaning he does not budge from normal hits and takes reduced damage. His attacks are also oddly powerful. But yeah, like 99% of it came from Budokai 3.

But then the same game showed him getting his ass kicked by Piccolo. I guess the Brolytards just like to ignore that part.

[Eternal Super Saiyan]

Almost entirely video games. Broly in the movies pretty much dominated, but all of his foes were very weak (a lot of "casual" fans don't even think Movie 10 Gohan was a SS2 at all), so his reputation for memetic badassery couldn't have come from there. It comes from stuff like him being fought after Pure Buu in Budokai 3, fighting evenly with Gogeta in the opening of the same game, defeating Ultimate Gohan in Budoaki 3 (WTF!?), and just being generally top tier in every game he appears in. In the Tenkaichi series, he for some reason is classified as a 'giant' character, meaning he does not budge from normal hits and takes reduced damage. His attacks are also oddly powerful. But yeah, like 99% of it came from Budokai 3.

But then the same game showed him getting his ass kicked by Piccolo. I guess the Brolytards just like to ignore that part.

And ridiculous how the new games give Broly a LSSJ3 form. That just feeds the problem even more....

[RandomGuy96]

But the games also featured LSS3 Broly being stomped by SS3 Vegeta, showing he's not all that. But then I imagine in another mode he beat Buutenks or something.

Video games are where a lot of popular perception and wank comes from. Like with Janemba and Gogeta.

[TheGmGoken]

I don't understand how people can't separate Video games from the real series. I mean by that logic Yamcha > Vegeta and Trunks.
I don't understand how they can accept everything else as a what if but when Broly is fighting a Top Tier character they think damn he's stronger than everyone in DBGT!

[DBZ Mick]

The videos games- Budokai 3 in particular.

[DBZGTKOSDH]

Dragon Ball Z 3 & Dragon Ball Z: Sparking! METEOR have him fighting evenly with SS Gogeta, and the video games treat Gogeta as slightly weaker than Vegetto. Also in METEOR, Broli is ranked in the same tier as characters like Super Vegetto, SS4 Goku, and Super Yi Xing Long.

[coola]

Kei17 once wrote, that Broly is very popular in Japan as well, he even gave links to few fan created Broly videos, but, i cannot find them. But yeah, video games really seem to love giving Broly a spotlight (SSJ3 in RB2, ssecret boss fight in Attack of Saiyans from DS)

[Hellspawn28]

I think most of the Broli fandom comes from the US. He has been in every video game since 2003 and I think the game developers know that he has a good selling point in the US. During the 90's, he was only in one video game and he never shown up in anything else until Taiketsu was released.

[Kaboom]

So Taiketsu is to blame?

Man, the bad marks against that game are just endless, aren't they?

[dprez]

The video games are one reason why people overrate Broly, but especially Kid Boo.