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CashmanX wrote:Three torturous weeks until the Blu-ray...
Is any doing a movie marathon in anticipation of the release?
Unfortunately no, since I watched most of the films fairly recently.
KentalSSJ6 wrote:Me and about 4 of my friends are. Banked our cash, gonna get a metric f*ck ton of drinks and snacks, do a 13 movie marathon followed by tournaments of Tenkaichi 3 and Budokai 3.
No love for the Dragon Ball films?
I wonder if anyone will be watching DBE in anticipation of Battle of Gods.
Actually, speaking of Evolution, I was reading Takao Koyama's "thoughts" on BOG and something caught my eye:
Actually, it’s because 20th Century Fox was involved in the production. I know the situation and some behind-the-scenes stories concerning that, but it’s top-secret information, so I can’t write about it.
I was under the impression that it was just stuff concerning rights that was left over from DBE, but perhaps there's something more to it than that
I have just watched that trailer enough times to really enjoy the english Hero as well. I can't stop hitting the replay button. Also this just brought up the hype even further.
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Why Dragon Ball Consistency in something such as power levels matter!
Spoiler:
Doctor. wrote:I've explained before, I'll just paraphrase myself.
Power levels establish tension and drama. People who care about them (well, people who care about them in a narrative) don't care about the big numbers or the fancy explosions. If you have character A who's so much above character B, who's the main character, you're gonna be left wondering how in the hell character B, the character we're supposed to care and root for, is going to escape the situation or overcome the odds. It makes us emotionally invested.
If character B doesn't escape the situation in a believable way that's consistent with previous events, then that emotional investment is gone. It was pointless tension, pointless drama made just to suck in the viewer. It has no critical value whatsoever. The audience is left believing that the author can just create whatever scenarios he wants and what happens to the characters is decided by whatever the author wants to happen, regardless of the events that happened in the story. Which, in fairness, is what happens, but the audience wants to be fooled. The audience wants to know that the world they're following has rules. That the world they're invested in isn't going to bend to external factors that are irrelevant to them.
An author can do whatever he wants with the characters, that's not false. But the author should also have the responsibility to make sure it fits in cohesively with the other events in the narrative he has created.
CashmanX wrote:Three torturous weeks until the Blu-ray...
Is any doing a movie marathon in anticipation of the release?
Unfortunately no, since I watched most of the films fairly recently.
KentalSSJ6 wrote:Me and about 4 of my friends are. Banked our cash, gonna get a metric f*ck ton of drinks and snacks, do a 13 movie marathon followed by tournaments of Tenkaichi 3 and Budokai 3.
No love for the Dragon Ball films?
I wonder if anyone will be watching DBE in anticipation of Battle of Gods.
Actually, speaking of Evolution, I was reading Takao Koyama's "thoughts" on BOG and something caught my eye:
Actually, it’s because 20th Century Fox was involved in the production. I know the situation and some behind-the-scenes stories concerning that, but it’s top-secret information, so I can’t write about it.
I was under the impression that it was just stuff concerning rights that was left over from DBE, but perhaps there's something more to it than that
See, they are DBZ fans, and by that they never watched Dragonball. Well they did..but they didnt like it so sadly well be skipping them for BOG, plus we need time for the tournaments.
It looks like he's about to cough up a hairball of destruction on Goku.
Super Hairball attack is a one hit ko move. I should know as I have experience with that kind of attack. All I can say is it ain't fun to clean up the mess.
Why Dragon Ball Consistency in something such as power levels matter!
Spoiler:
Doctor. wrote:I've explained before, I'll just paraphrase myself.
Power levels establish tension and drama. People who care about them (well, people who care about them in a narrative) don't care about the big numbers or the fancy explosions. If you have character A who's so much above character B, who's the main character, you're gonna be left wondering how in the hell character B, the character we're supposed to care and root for, is going to escape the situation or overcome the odds. It makes us emotionally invested.
If character B doesn't escape the situation in a believable way that's consistent with previous events, then that emotional investment is gone. It was pointless tension, pointless drama made just to suck in the viewer. It has no critical value whatsoever. The audience is left believing that the author can just create whatever scenarios he wants and what happens to the characters is decided by whatever the author wants to happen, regardless of the events that happened in the story. Which, in fairness, is what happens, but the audience wants to be fooled. The audience wants to know that the world they're following has rules. That the world they're invested in isn't going to bend to external factors that are irrelevant to them.
An author can do whatever he wants with the characters, that's not false. But the author should also have the responsibility to make sure it fits in cohesively with the other events in the narrative he has created.
KentalSSJ6 wrote:Have you ever been a victim of the Canine Doom Dump?
A few times only.
Why Dragon Ball Consistency in something such as power levels matter!
Spoiler:
Doctor. wrote:I've explained before, I'll just paraphrase myself.
Power levels establish tension and drama. People who care about them (well, people who care about them in a narrative) don't care about the big numbers or the fancy explosions. If you have character A who's so much above character B, who's the main character, you're gonna be left wondering how in the hell character B, the character we're supposed to care and root for, is going to escape the situation or overcome the odds. It makes us emotionally invested.
If character B doesn't escape the situation in a believable way that's consistent with previous events, then that emotional investment is gone. It was pointless tension, pointless drama made just to suck in the viewer. It has no critical value whatsoever. The audience is left believing that the author can just create whatever scenarios he wants and what happens to the characters is decided by whatever the author wants to happen, regardless of the events that happened in the story. Which, in fairness, is what happens, but the audience wants to be fooled. The audience wants to know that the world they're following has rules. That the world they're invested in isn't going to bend to external factors that are irrelevant to them.
An author can do whatever he wants with the characters, that's not false. But the author should also have the responsibility to make sure it fits in cohesively with the other events in the narrative he has created.
DragonBoxZTheMovies wrote:Pretty sure something's been cut out of this clip, since Goku and Beerus end up in space rather abruptly. That, and the seemingly "Engrish" version of Hero has likely just been slapped over the top since it doesn't even line up with the 'film version' of the song that's included on the soundtrack.
It's definitely been cut down for this preview. I specifically remember the rest of the group actually saying something while they were staring in shock at Goku and Beers, (specifically Piccolo noting that "He's not using the God form anymore! He's just a regular Super Saiyan now!") and I also seem to recall the transition from underground, to the clouds and into space being a lot smoother. No "just abruptly we're in space" from what I recall. And yeah, the song is indeed rather chopped up here.
Why Dragon Ball Consistency in something such as power levels matter!
Spoiler:
Doctor. wrote:I've explained before, I'll just paraphrase myself.
Power levels establish tension and drama. People who care about them (well, people who care about them in a narrative) don't care about the big numbers or the fancy explosions. If you have character A who's so much above character B, who's the main character, you're gonna be left wondering how in the hell character B, the character we're supposed to care and root for, is going to escape the situation or overcome the odds. It makes us emotionally invested.
If character B doesn't escape the situation in a believable way that's consistent with previous events, then that emotional investment is gone. It was pointless tension, pointless drama made just to suck in the viewer. It has no critical value whatsoever. The audience is left believing that the author can just create whatever scenarios he wants and what happens to the characters is decided by whatever the author wants to happen, regardless of the events that happened in the story. Which, in fairness, is what happens, but the audience wants to be fooled. The audience wants to know that the world they're following has rules. That the world they're invested in isn't going to bend to external factors that are irrelevant to them.
An author can do whatever he wants with the characters, that's not false. But the author should also have the responsibility to make sure it fits in cohesively with the other events in the narrative he has created.
That's definitely in English, but it's obviously FLOW singing it and, unfortunately, like with many Japanese singers who do English versions of their songs, it's a lot of Engrish.
... Did FLOW ever RELEASE an English version of HERO? I don't remember that...
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That's definitely in English, but it's obviously FLOW singing it and, unfortunately, like with many Japanese singers who do English versions of their songs, it's a lot of Engrish.
... Did FLOW ever RELEASE an English version of HERO? I don't remember that...
Yeah I can barely make out the words. I still enjoy the hell out of it though as every version of this song kicks ass.
Flow hasn't released an english version to my knowledge. No one else here confirms an english release as of now.
Why Dragon Ball Consistency in something such as power levels matter!
Spoiler:
Doctor. wrote:I've explained before, I'll just paraphrase myself.
Power levels establish tension and drama. People who care about them (well, people who care about them in a narrative) don't care about the big numbers or the fancy explosions. If you have character A who's so much above character B, who's the main character, you're gonna be left wondering how in the hell character B, the character we're supposed to care and root for, is going to escape the situation or overcome the odds. It makes us emotionally invested.
If character B doesn't escape the situation in a believable way that's consistent with previous events, then that emotional investment is gone. It was pointless tension, pointless drama made just to suck in the viewer. It has no critical value whatsoever. The audience is left believing that the author can just create whatever scenarios he wants and what happens to the characters is decided by whatever the author wants to happen, regardless of the events that happened in the story. Which, in fairness, is what happens, but the audience wants to be fooled. The audience wants to know that the world they're following has rules. That the world they're invested in isn't going to bend to external factors that are irrelevant to them.
An author can do whatever he wants with the characters, that's not false. But the author should also have the responsibility to make sure it fits in cohesively with the other events in the narrative he has created.
That's definitely in English, but it's obviously FLOW singing it and, unfortunately, like with many Japanese singers who do English versions of their songs, it's a lot of Engrish.
... Did FLOW ever RELEASE an English version of HERO? I don't remember that...
If you want good Engrish, get the Japanese voice actor for Masamune Data from Sengoku Basara to sing a song.
