You can make one tweak to GT

some_weirdGuy · Post by **some_weirdGuy** » Sat Aug 24, 2013 12:32 am

- But just a single tweak, It can't change too much of the overall series, you're not allowed to re-write GT or drastically alter it's storyline, but what is one change that you think could make the story GT is trying to tell more compelling, or 'soften the blow' of something that bugged you. Maybe it's a pet peeve, maybe it's a change in direction, maybe it's averting a particular plot hole. up to you to conjecture how the butterfly effect might go from there - though keeping in mind what was said above.
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One for me that I realised a little while back:
When goku becomes a kid again, make his mind change back too. Make him genuinely turn back into his kid self.

One thing that always got me with GT was goku was looking like a kid again, and acting like a kid again, But he wasn't a kid! He was a midget, an adult in a child-like body. All that innocent kid stuff he use to be able to get away with no longer applies when you're the mind of a fully grown man.
It would also be funny him seeing/interacting with his friends and family as 'kid goku' again. Commenting on bulma looking really old, much to her fury, hearing gohans name and commenting how his grandpa had that name too, wondering how krillin got so tall(though not recognising at first due to the hair), not believing who Chichi says she is, being startled by Piccolo when he see's him, not even knowing Vegeta. It would acctually be pretty interesting ((and i guess you could pluck him from anywhere in DB's timeline, it could even be goku from episode 1, before he met any of them at all))

It could also potentially address the power creep a bit, the villains they face during the blackstar dragonballs saga could be frieza-saga strength yet actually a threat again. Maybe goku retains his strength but it's suppressed/reduced greatly by his adolescent body, giving him a much needed nerf, or maybe he has his base strength but (logically) doesn't know how to go super saiyan any more. Regaining those forms could become part of his struggle as he faces these villains. [eg regaining ssj so he can beat rildo perhaps].

Ideally, with goku being nerfed so hard the other characters could get more of a spotlight, so it's not so goku centric and unbalanced. But i think that's counting as a number of separate 'tweeks' now, meaning it falls outside my 'one tweek' rule XD.

Either way, eventually goku gets turned back/remembers, but for a while there he's back as literally kid goku again.

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Another potential one i thought was change 'ssj4', make it be like... 'Zarushin' or 'Hitozaru' or... 'Oshozaru' ...or something. Whatever - have it act as a new 'base' form that channels(some or all of) the power of oozaru, and the saiyan then stacks ssj 1/2/3 ontop of it, in the same way as a ssj great ape can, but without the disadvantage of being out of control, a large target, needing a full moon, and maybe even needing to have a tail(make it just grow back when they access the half-oozaru form).

Design wise I'd personally also get rid of the gaudy fur(make it brown like oozaru i guess), remove the eye make up completely, maybe go for red eyes to tie with oozaru, and no magical pants, but those are all more just about neatening the design to further tie in with existing forms(and I guess just personal preference, seeing fan art of ssj4's with those colour schemes seemed better to me than red).

TheGmGoken · Post by **TheGmGoken** » Sat Aug 24, 2013 12:44 am

The person who came up with the story. I would change him. Thus by this one tweak, I've changed the entire story.

KentalSSJ6 · Post by **KentalSSJ6** » Sat Aug 24, 2013 12:45 am

We already have a topic on here that covers this. I made it just look up "If YOU Could Change GT" and you should find it.

Dr. Machismo · Post by **Dr. Machismo** » Sat Aug 24, 2013 12:47 am

KentalSSJ6 wrote:We already have a topic on here that covers this. I made it just look up "If YOU Could Change GT" and you should find it.

Lots of threads are made over and over again, and I don't think there's been one with a criteria like in the OP.

some_weirdGuy · Post by **some_weirdGuy** » Sat Aug 24, 2013 1:05 am

KentalSSJ6 wrote:We already have a topic on here that covers this. I made it just look up "If YOU Could Change GT" and you should find it.

Yeah, without a doubt there would be a thread similar to this (i think it's one of the few GT discussions people can really muster - I'm sure before your own there were several other threads on exactly that also).

But the idea here is you have just one single change you're allowed to make. You can't change everything, so what's the one thing you'd want most, or the one thing you'd think would be interesting. Everything has to follow on the same direction GT has set, but your one change will be in effect. So don't just say what you think would have the biggest 'splash', pick something that you'd genuinely just want to have seen/happen.

TheGmGoken wrote:The person who came up with the story. I would change him. Thus by this one tweak, I've changed the entire story.

clever boy,

but not quite as clever as you might think:

It can't change too much of the overall series, you're not allowed to re-write GT or drastically alter it's storyline

Meaning you totally wasted your 'one change :X. All you said was you'd change the person - meaning a different name in the credits sequence but nothing else, GT still happens as it did and everything is still the same, as you didn't alter anything in-universe - you didn't even alter anything relating to the art/sound/actual story/etc. XD

Ringworm128 · Post by **Ringworm128** » Sat Aug 24, 2013 1:15 am

Have it so Omega/Yi Xing doesn't have less personality then Kiwi.

TheGmGoken · Post by **TheGmGoken** » Sat Aug 24, 2013 1:22 am

Meaning you totally wasted your 'one change :X. All you said was you'd change the person - meaning a different name in the credits sequence but nothing else, GT still happens as it did and everything is still the same, as you didn't alter anything in-universe - you didn't even alter anything relating to the art/sound/actual story/etc. XD

Wrong. Becasuse of this. An idea changes. Could beas small as Goku having a mind of a kid to as big as SSJ4 being yellow. See the whole story changes. We don't see a red fur SSJ4.

Also if that's the case then you contradicted your WHOLE topic with the Kid GOku having Kid mind thing.

It can't change too much of the overall series, you're not allowed to re-write GT or drastically alter it's storyline

Having Goku with a kid mind drastically changes the story line. Now they have to jug Goku memories, deal with it like it was the memory forgetting disease, he doesn't know the cast no more(HUGE change), He would't know about SSJ and the other forms making him fight only in base, if you go by EP 1 Goku then he doesn't know Kamehameha and only knows Hand to hand skills, and lastly he going be like WTF wear my power pole. See all of that changes. While my change was simple. SSJ4 Goku with yellow hair because the NEW creator wanted it to be yellow(Even though I find it ugly).

penguintruth · Post by **penguintruth** » Sat Aug 24, 2013 4:18 am

It was all a hallucination Goku was having after spending too much time in the ROSAT. This surprises him, as his regular hallucinations are geared towards food.

TheMightyOzaru · Post by **TheMightyOzaru** » Sat Aug 24, 2013 11:55 am

Yeah, either make it a dream or change the designs of the Shadow Dragons. Wu Xing Long and Qi Xing Long are ridiculous looking.

Dr. Machismo · Post by **Dr. Machismo** » Sat Aug 24, 2013 12:44 pm

Making most of the Shadow Dragons look edgy and all wasn't really needed, seeing as the only particularly cool ones were Syn, Nuova and Eis.

Gyt Kaliba · Post by **Gyt Kaliba** » Sat Aug 24, 2013 1:40 pm

If I had to make one change and one change only eh? Hmm...less Goku focus. Even with everything else left the same, just letting the other characters (especially Pan and Oob) actually do stuff that matters, would improve everything else in the series even if just a little.

Kakarot88 · Post by **Kakarot88** » Sat Aug 24, 2013 1:53 pm

Pan can go Super Saiyan

OR

Vegeta goes SS4 at the Super Android 17 arc...

Sin · Post by **Sin** » Sat Aug 24, 2013 5:22 pm

Give Trunks a better personality and wardrobe.

ShinGaijin · Post by **ShinGaijin** » Sat Aug 24, 2013 5:39 pm

Change BGM.Some are really beautiful, but for the rest, IMO many are boring and sanitized ... I speak for those composed by Tokunaga, I haven't listened to Mark Menza's BGMs yet.

TheGmGoken · Post by **TheGmGoken** » Sat Aug 24, 2013 5:43 pm

ShinGaijin wrote:Change BGM.Some are really beautiful, but for the rest, many are boring and sanitized ... I speak for those composed by Tokunaga, I haven't listened to Mark Menza's BGMs yet.

Mark Menza score was pretty much the same song being repeated with a different tone or beat.

KingofWisdom · Post by **KingofWisdom** » Sat Aug 24, 2013 5:46 pm

Have a bigger focus on the search for the black star dragon balls, dedicating less episodes to the uninspired main villains.

ShinGaijin · Post by **ShinGaijin** » Sat Aug 24, 2013 5:51 pm

TheGmGoken wrote:Mark Menza score was pretty much the same song being repeated with a different tone or beat.

No luck! I was hoping for something as well as in movies (Z movie 6 for example) too bad.I'll listen it anyway.

TheBlackPaladin · Post by **TheBlackPaladin** » Sat Aug 24, 2013 6:42 pm

ShinGaijin wrote:Change BGM.Some are really beautiful, but for the rest, IMO many are boring and sanitized ... I speak for those composed by Tokunaga, I haven't listened to Mark Menza's BGMs yet.

As others have said, you're not missing out on much (in my opinion). I think some of Tokunaga's stuff was better than Kikuchi's...I'm still bummed that some of Tokunaga's bits that I liked the most haven't been released to CD.

Fizzer · Post by **Fizzer** » Sat Aug 24, 2013 6:58 pm

I'd remove the focus on Goku, making all of the characters that still fight (Or those that have the ability to, so this includes the likes of Gohan but not Yamcha, who couldn't really be very relevant in battle at this point) roughly as important as each other. If possible, part of this is that he isn't suddenly more powerful than everyone. In fact, age is catching him with him and Vegeta, making them weaker. The smaller child's body is also weaker than his adult body. This means fights are more balanced and teamwork-oriented and other characters get some glory.

Famicon3DS · Post by **Famicon3DS** » Sat Aug 24, 2013 11:17 pm

I would make Goku weaker.

Goku does not need to be a extremely OP child, A superhero should have limits, a lot changes in real life from child to adult so make Goku something like "no SSJ of any form" or "make the power level go up as he gets older", there doesn't even need to be a villian 2x times as strong as the last.

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