ABED wrote:You are taking the beads way too literally. Vegeta would definitely still be sweaty if he was in the middle of his gravity training. He was surprised because he expected Trunks to be a certain level and he was stronger, that doesn't prove much.
If Trunks was much weaker than Vegeta, then I think that Vegeta would be able to handle him. It's true that his surprise could just mean that Trunks was strong for his age... but Vegeta seemed
forced to hit Trunks.
ABED wrote:Wait, Vegeta barely managed to hit Trunks?
Sorry, I meant Trunks barely hit Vegeta.
ABED wrote:Vegeta knocks Trunks and Goten out very easily. Contrast that with Goku who he had to smack the crap out of.
Vegeta was a Super Saiyan 2 at both KOs, and Goku was a Super Saiyan 2 as well.
ABED wrote:I've never seen that term and it's not in the manga to my knowledge.
Super Saiyan Grade 2 is the official term in Japan about
this form. Super Saiyan Grade 3 is the even more huge form that Trunks used against Perfect Cell, the slow one.
Jon Jon wrote:Based on the "tailless generation" theory, I assume that means that Future Trunks would have been born with a tail?
The Daizenshuu consider Trunks & Future Trunks as the same person everywhere, so genetically, they are exactly the same.
James Teal (Animerica 1996) wrote:When you think about it, there are a number of similarities between the Chinese-inspired Son Goku and that most American of superhero icons, Superman. Both are aliens sent to Earth shortly after birth to escape the destruction of their homeworlds; both possess super-strength, flight, super-speed, heightened senses and the ability to cast energy blasts. But the crucial difference between them lies not only in how they view the world, but in how the world views them.
Superman is, and always has been, a symbol for truth, justice, and upstanding moral fortitude–a role model and leader as much as a fighter. The more down-to-earth Goku has no illusions about being responsible for maintaining social order, or for setting some kind of moral example for the entire world. Goku is simply a martial artist who’s devoted his life toward perfecting his fighting skills and other abilities. Though never shy about risking his life to save either one person or the entire world, he just doesn’t believe that the balance of the world rests in any way on his shoulders, and he has no need to shape any part of it in his image. Goku is an idealist, and believes that there is some good in everyone, but he is unconcerned with the big picture of the world…unless it has to do with some kind of fight. Politics, society, law and order don’t have much bearing on his life, but he’s a man who knows right from wrong.
