THIS! Plus.. How often do you even see 8 people fighting, besides everyone getting their asses beat by the Cell Jr.'sdbzfan7 wrote:Gimmicks should never be forced upon you.TheDevilsCorpse wrote:The same reason Raditz was with the Saibaiman, Nappa and Vegeta; they aren't following the story 1:1 so that they can utilize the team combat.dbzfan7 wrote:Also why the hell are Piccolo, Gohan, and Krillin with SSJ Goku? Krillin is dead, Piccolo is unconscious, and Gohan is taking Piccolo back to the ship.
Why do these changes keep keep getting mentioned as if they're blasphemous? This was stated early on, once we actually started to get info anyway, that the story mode was going to to be slightly tweaked with what-ifs to accommodate the combat gimmick.
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No game has properly captured the story =/. Seriously, somehow something gets cut or screwed up.Big Momma wrote:If you really want the original story, you've got 10 years of previous games to check it out (Except for Shin Budokai and a couple others, I guess).
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We don't need tons of people on screen all the time. Slight alterations aren't bad but KRILLIN IS DEAD.vince90x wrote:THIS! Plus.. How often do you even see 8 people fighting, besides everyone getting their asses beat by the Cell Jr.'sdbzfan7 wrote:
Gimmicks should never be forced upon you.
We can have
2v1
Goku and Piccolo vs Raditz
4v4
Piccolo, Krillin, Tenshinhan and Yamcha vs Saibamen (they each fought one so you may as well loop em together)
4v1
Piccolo, Gohan, Krillin, and Tenshinhan vs Nappa
1v1
Goku vs Nappa
Goku vs Vegeta
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and list goes on for anyone else who wants to continue it. You don't need to break cannon this bad to add the stupid gimmick
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No offense, but I don't really see what your issue is with a game, which is meant to make anything possible in it's gameplay, breaking canon. I mean, does it bother you this badly in, say, Tenkaichi 3, if you and a friend both pick random characters, they get SS4 Goku and you get Chaozu, and you still manage to win somehow despite that being laughably impossible in canon?
My point, is that it's a fighting game, it's not supposed to adhere super strictly to the canon of the manga and/or anime, at least not that far.
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And unlike you, I don't see this as "breaking canon". It's yet another adaptation of the franchise. One where Kuririn didn't die and trigger Goku's transformation, and I welcome it. I'm so tired of playing the story over and over again, and that would include your list of lumped together fights, as it's the same thing that happened in the series...just all at once. The more changes from the original, the better. The fact that Goku is a Super Saiyan and Kuririn is still alive is interesting, and I'm curious to see what further changes are made to accommodate everything.dbzfan7 wrote:We don't need tons of people on screen all the time. Slight alterations aren't bad but KRILLIN IS DEAD.
You don't need to break cannon this bad to add the stupid gimmick
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Which is why I'm betting their going to do a ton of crappy rewrites to make this work. I don't want to have to have multiple people fighting all the time. In TTT I could set it to one on one and not every fight was a tag fight if I recall correctly.Gyt Kaliba wrote:No offense, but I don't really see what your issue is with a game, which is meant to make anything possible in it's gameplay, breaking canon. I mean, does it bother you this badly in, say, Tenkaichi 3, if you and a friend both pick random characters, they get SS4 Goku and you get Chaozu, and you still manage to win somehow despite that being laughably impossible in canon?
My point, is that it's a fighting game, it's not supposed to adhere super strictly to the canon of the manga and/or anime, at least not that far.
No i have no problem how things go down in versus mode. What if's I happily support, but changing the story to support a gimmick I do not support.
I'll wait to see what they change, but seeing how the last bit of writing we got from UT was shit, I'm not looking forward to how they rewrite what happened.TheDevilsCorpse wrote: And unlike you, I don't see this as "breaking canon". It's yet another adaptation of the franchise. One where Kuririn didn't die and trigger Goku's transformation, and I welcome it. I'm so tired of playing the story over and over again, and that would include your list of lumped together fights, as it's the same thing that happened in the series...just all at once. The more changes from the original, the better. The fact that Goku is a Super Saiyan and Kuririn is still alive is interesting, and I'm curious to see what further changes are made to accommodate everything.
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I'm afraid to say none, if the story mode indeed ends at Freeza and other saga characters will just be 'there'.TheDevilsCorpse wrote:and I'm curious to see what further changes are made to accommodate everything.
Hopefully not.
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I don't just mean what happens after the Freeza Arc, I mean from the whole story mode, even the Saiyan Arc.Nightstar1994 wrote:I'm afraid to say none, if the story mode indeed ends at Freeza and other saga characters will just be 'there'.
Hopefully not.
-Why does Raditz have Nappa and Vegeta with him from the beginning?
-How do the heroes match this power without the year of training?
-Who actually died to make them go to Namek?
-What triggers Goku's transformation?
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I wonder if they will actually have Gohan kill Buu this time.TheDevilsCorpse wrote:I don't just mean what happens after the Freeza Arc, I mean from the whole story mode, even the Saiyan Arc.Nightstar1994 wrote:I'm afraid to say none, if the story mode indeed ends at Freeza and other saga characters will just be 'there'.
Hopefully not.
-Why does Raditz have Nappa and Vegeta with him from the beginning?
-How do the heroes match this power without the year of training?
-Who actually died to make them go to Namek?
-What triggers Goku's transformation?
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I'm still peeved about the no local multiplayer
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That was the best mode with every DBZ game. I would mess around with that mode and the training mode 2p which would also be fun (it was basically smash bros with dbz characters)TheMightyOzaru wrote:I'm still peeved about the no local multiplayer.
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Wait, there is no local multiplayer?TheMightyOzaru wrote:I'm still peeved about the no local multiplayer.
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Yup, no local multiplayer was confirmed. They said they wanted the fighting not to be hindered by a screen split.MasterVampire wrote:Wait, there is no local multiplayer?TheMightyOzaru wrote:I'm still peeved about the no local multiplayer.
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Since a scan for J stars victory VS came today, I guess we might be seeing a new scan for BoZ soon?
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I can't believe this y'all still talking about the whole Krillin thing. I said THEY TOOK A PAGE OUT OF DRAGONBALL SD AND MADE GOKU TRANSFORM WHEN FREEZA KILLED VEGETA.
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You and me both. The idea of not having offline multiplayer just takes most of the fun out of the game for me...even before touching it.TheMightyOzaru wrote:I'm still peeved about the no local multiplayer.
Trying to just focus on other aspects of the game, but still.
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Not trying to say you're wrong or anything, but where did you see that? I haven't watched the gameplay or interview vids completely through, so I may have missed it.TheGmGoken wrote:I can't believe this y'all still talking about the whole Krillin thing. I said THEY TOOK A PAGE OUT OF DRAGONBALL SD AND MADE GOKU TRANSFORM WHEN FREEZA KILLED VEGETA.
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That haven't. We don't know what triggered the transformation. For all we know, they may just pick someone who isn't on whatever team of characters you pick to fight Freeza, since I seem to remember it being said you can pick your teams to fight how you want.
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May earlier post from the summer said though they didn't say it. I THINK they used the SD method and just made Vegeta die. Does it work for the sake of the story. Yes. Does it make sense no? It's like they just needed Goku to turn SSJ but have the whole idea of 4v1 in mind. So kill Vegeta and let Krillin live. Not confirmed but what I predict.Big Momma wrote:Not trying to say you're wrong or anything, but where did you see that? I haven't watched the gameplay or interview vids completely through, so I may have missed it.TheGmGoken wrote:I can't believe this y'all still talking about the whole Krillin thing. I said THEY TOOK A PAGE OUT OF DRAGONBALL SD AND MADE GOKU TRANSFORM WHEN FREEZA KILLED VEGETA.
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You make an assumption, but you post it as a fact.
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