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Post by vince90x » Tue Aug 27, 2013 1:10 pm

dbzfan7 wrote:
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dbzfan7 wrote:Also why the hell are Piccolo, Gohan, and Krillin with SSJ Goku? Krillin is dead, Piccolo is unconscious, and Gohan is taking Piccolo back to the ship.
The same reason Raditz was with the Saibaiman, Nappa and Vegeta; they aren't following the story 1:1 so that they can utilize the team combat.

Why do these changes keep keep getting mentioned as if they're blasphemous? This was stated early on, once we actually started to get info anyway, that the story mode was going to to be slightly tweaked with what-ifs to accommodate the combat gimmick.
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Post by TheMightyOzaru » Tue Aug 27, 2013 3:47 pm

Big Momma wrote:If you really want the original story, you've got 10 years of previous games to check it out (Except for Shin Budokai and a couple others, I guess :P ).
No game has properly captured the story =/. Seriously, somehow something gets cut or screwed up.
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Post by dbzfan7 » Tue Aug 27, 2013 3:55 pm

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Gimmicks should never be forced upon you.
THIS! Plus.. How often do you even see 8 people fighting, besides everyone getting their asses beat by the Cell Jr.'s
We don't need tons of people on screen all the time. Slight alterations aren't bad but KRILLIN IS DEAD.

We can have

2v1

Goku and Piccolo vs Raditz

4v4

Piccolo, Krillin, Tenshinhan and Yamcha vs Saibamen (they each fought one so you may as well loop em together)

4v1

Piccolo, Gohan, Krillin, and Tenshinhan vs Nappa

1v1

Goku vs Nappa

Goku vs Vegeta

3v1

Goku, Krillin, and Gohan vs Oozaru Vegeta

and list goes on for anyone else who wants to continue it. You don't need to break cannon this bad to add the stupid gimmick
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Post by Gyt Kaliba » Tue Aug 27, 2013 4:04 pm

No offense, but I don't really see what your issue is with a game, which is meant to make anything possible in it's gameplay, breaking canon. I mean, does it bother you this badly in, say, Tenkaichi 3, if you and a friend both pick random characters, they get SS4 Goku and you get Chaozu, and you still manage to win somehow despite that being laughably impossible in canon?

My point, is that it's a fighting game, it's not supposed to adhere super strictly to the canon of the manga and/or anime, at least not that far.
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Post by TheDevilsCorpse » Tue Aug 27, 2013 4:08 pm

dbzfan7 wrote:We don't need tons of people on screen all the time. Slight alterations aren't bad but KRILLIN IS DEAD.
You don't need to break cannon this bad to add the stupid gimmick
And unlike you, I don't see this as "breaking canon". It's yet another adaptation of the franchise. One where Kuririn didn't die and trigger Goku's transformation, and I welcome it. I'm so tired of playing the story over and over again, and that would include your list of lumped together fights, as it's the same thing that happened in the series...just all at once. The more changes from the original, the better. The fact that Goku is a Super Saiyan and Kuririn is still alive is interesting, and I'm curious to see what further changes are made to accommodate everything.
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Post by dbzfan7 » Tue Aug 27, 2013 4:10 pm

Gyt Kaliba wrote:No offense, but I don't really see what your issue is with a game, which is meant to make anything possible in it's gameplay, breaking canon. I mean, does it bother you this badly in, say, Tenkaichi 3, if you and a friend both pick random characters, they get SS4 Goku and you get Chaozu, and you still manage to win somehow despite that being laughably impossible in canon?

My point, is that it's a fighting game, it's not supposed to adhere super strictly to the canon of the manga and/or anime, at least not that far.
Which is why I'm betting their going to do a ton of crappy rewrites to make this work. I don't want to have to have multiple people fighting all the time. In TTT I could set it to one on one and not every fight was a tag fight if I recall correctly.

No i have no problem how things go down in versus mode. What if's I happily support, but changing the story to support a gimmick I do not support.
TheDevilsCorpse wrote: And unlike you, I don't see this as "breaking canon". It's yet another adaptation of the franchise. One where Kuririn didn't die and trigger Goku's transformation, and I welcome it. I'm so tired of playing the story over and over again, and that would include your list of lumped together fights, as it's the same thing that happened in the series...just all at once. The more changes from the original, the better. The fact that Goku is a Super Saiyan and Kuririn is still alive is interesting, and I'm curious to see what further changes are made to accommodate everything.
I'll wait to see what they change, but seeing how the last bit of writing we got from UT was shit, I'm not looking forward to how they rewrite what happened.
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Post by Xeogran » Tue Aug 27, 2013 4:11 pm

TheDevilsCorpse wrote:and I'm curious to see what further changes are made to accommodate everything.
I'm afraid to say none, if the story mode indeed ends at Freeza and other saga characters will just be 'there'.

Hopefully not.

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Post by TheDevilsCorpse » Tue Aug 27, 2013 4:16 pm

Nightstar1994 wrote:I'm afraid to say none, if the story mode indeed ends at Freeza and other saga characters will just be 'there'.

Hopefully not.
I don't just mean what happens after the Freeza Arc, I mean from the whole story mode, even the Saiyan Arc.
-Why does Raditz have Nappa and Vegeta with him from the beginning?
-How do the heroes match this power without the year of training?
-Who actually died to make them go to Namek?
-What triggers Goku's transformation?
-etc.
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Post by KentalSSJ6 » Tue Aug 27, 2013 4:20 pm

TheDevilsCorpse wrote:
Nightstar1994 wrote:I'm afraid to say none, if the story mode indeed ends at Freeza and other saga characters will just be 'there'.

Hopefully not.
I don't just mean what happens after the Freeza Arc, I mean from the whole story mode, even the Saiyan Arc.
-Why does Raditz have Nappa and Vegeta with him from the beginning?
-How do the heroes match this power without the year of training?
-Who actually died to make them go to Namek?
-What triggers Goku's transformation?
-etc.
I wonder if they will actually have Gohan kill Buu this time.
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Post by TheMightyOzaru » Tue Aug 27, 2013 6:40 pm

I'm still peeved about the no local multiplayer :problem: .
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Post by dbzfan7 » Wed Aug 28, 2013 12:44 am

TheMightyOzaru wrote:I'm still peeved about the no local multiplayer :problem: .
That was the best mode with every DBZ game. I would mess around with that mode and the training mode 2p which would also be fun (it was basically smash bros with dbz characters)
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Post by MasterVampire » Wed Aug 28, 2013 1:50 am

TheMightyOzaru wrote:I'm still peeved about the no local multiplayer :problem: .
Wait, there is no local multiplayer?

This keeps getting worse.

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Post by TheMightyOzaru » Wed Aug 28, 2013 9:16 am

MasterVampire wrote:
TheMightyOzaru wrote:I'm still peeved about the no local multiplayer :problem: .
Wait, there is no local multiplayer?

This keeps getting worse.
Yup, no local multiplayer was confirmed. They said they wanted the fighting not to be hindered by a screen split.
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Since a scan for J stars victory VS came today, I guess we might be seeing a new scan for BoZ soon?

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Post by TheGmGoken » Wed Aug 28, 2013 3:06 pm

I can't believe this y'all still talking about the whole Krillin thing. I said THEY TOOK A PAGE OUT OF DRAGONBALL SD AND MADE GOKU TRANSFORM WHEN FREEZA KILLED VEGETA.

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Post by Super Saiyan Turlast x4 » Wed Aug 28, 2013 3:17 pm

TheMightyOzaru wrote:I'm still peeved about the no local multiplayer :problem: .
You and me both. The idea of not having offline multiplayer just takes most of the fun out of the game for me...even before touching it.

Trying to just focus on other aspects of the game, but still.
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Post by Big Momma » Wed Aug 28, 2013 3:25 pm

TheGmGoken wrote:I can't believe this y'all still talking about the whole Krillin thing. I said THEY TOOK A PAGE OUT OF DRAGONBALL SD AND MADE GOKU TRANSFORM WHEN FREEZA KILLED VEGETA.
Not trying to say you're wrong or anything, but where did you see that? I haven't watched the gameplay or interview vids completely through, so I may have missed it.
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Post by TheDevilsCorpse » Wed Aug 28, 2013 3:27 pm

That haven't. We don't know what triggered the transformation. For all we know, they may just pick someone who isn't on whatever team of characters you pick to fight Freeza, since I seem to remember it being said you can pick your teams to fight how you want.
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Big Momma wrote:
TheGmGoken wrote:I can't believe this y'all still talking about the whole Krillin thing. I said THEY TOOK A PAGE OUT OF DRAGONBALL SD AND MADE GOKU TRANSFORM WHEN FREEZA KILLED VEGETA.
Not trying to say you're wrong or anything, but where did you see that? I haven't watched the gameplay or interview vids completely through, so I may have missed it.
May earlier post from the summer said though they didn't say it. I THINK they used the SD method and just made Vegeta die. Does it work for the sake of the story. Yes. Does it make sense no? It's like they just needed Goku to turn SSJ but have the whole idea of 4v1 in mind. So kill Vegeta and let Krillin live. Not confirmed but what I predict.

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Post by DBZGTKOSDH » Wed Aug 28, 2013 4:03 pm

You make an assumption, but you post it as a fact.
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