Best Way to Back-Up Dragon Boxes?

[Krycek7o2]

Hello
Sorry for revive old topic, but, i have a small problem, i planned to make MKV out of my Funi Dragon Boxes, and while Makemkv install and work without problem, when i try to install Handbrake, it wants to install Net Framework 4.0, i don`t want this to happen, because i heard, that this program slow down your PC, is there another program i can use to make smaller MKV?

Whoever told you that has no idea what they are talking about.
Net Framework 4.0 won't be doing any of that.

[superrayman3]

Whoever told you that has no idea what they are talking about.
Net Framework 4.0 won't be doing any of that.

Actually if your running on XP SP3 coolas claim has some partial truth to it, NF 4.0 won't slow down your PC in ways that your programs will run slow (so no worries there ALTMK), but it will however slow down your computers startup time and I can verify this myself, when I first installed XP SP3 on my laptop bootup time was 5-10 seconds max after installing Net Framework 4.0 for some programs bootup time increased to 20-25 seconds so coolas claim does have some merit.

[MarcFBR]

Whoever told you that has no idea what they are talking about.
Net Framework 4.0 won't be doing any of that.

Actually if your running on XP SP3 coolas claim has some partial truth to it, NF 4.0 won't slow down your PC in ways that your programs will run slow (so no worries there ALTMK), but it will however slow down your computers startup time and I can verify this myself, when I first installed XP SP3 on my laptop bootup time was 5-10 seconds max after installing Net Framework 4.0 for some programs bootup time increased to 20-25 seconds so coolas claim does have some merit.

There's a handful of things you'd need for that to happen, and unless he built the system himself, or altered it, it's unlikely.

To get XP to boot that quickly, you'd need it on an SSD.
By the time better quality SSDs were in use, XP was already very long in the tooth, and new features were cobbled into it, so it's potentially possible.

The fact XP is out of the normal support range effectively says it's time to upgrade, either by getting a new version of Windows, or switching to a decent Linux build.


Which (as even you point out) still does not match with coola's concern, that his computer will be slower. If he's worried about minor slowdown like that, his computer is likely old enough that the specific combinations to add significantly to boot time (being on XP SP3, having a decent quality SSD that can boot that quickly, being on a machine that is relatively clean enough to not slow down boot) are relatively unlikely.

[coola]

Hello
I'm sorry i revive old topic, but, could someone tel me, please, if i use Makemkv + Handbrake, to make m4v. files of my Dragonboxes, will i lose any quality?

[MarcFBR]

Hello
I'm sorry i revive old topic, but, could someone tel me, please, if i use Makemkv + Handbrake, to make m4v. files of my Dragonboxes, will i lose any quality?

MakeMKV makes a 1:1 backup, pulling the files off the DVD exactly as they are.

Handbrake allows you to take what is on the DVD, and reencode it using H264. You are losing quality with Handbrake, but even with the most generic setting in Handbrake, switching 80s/90s animation from MPEG2 (the codec used on DVDs) to H264 you will lose very little.

It's quite likely you won't notice at all.

Do both, and look at the quality and filesize to see which you want to do.

Although if you want them M4V, you'd have to convert the DVD subtitles to something else (likely burning them into the picture based on what you know how to do) so it'll play properly. Handbrake can burn them in while it's encoding the video.

[Jon Jon]

I had actually done this nearly a year ago and had discussed it on here.

I personally used DVDFAB to do this back up. I just did 1:1 ISO back ups of each disc. It took me a weekend to do this, but it was worth it.

I could get you the total file size when I get home tonight, as I have it both on an external HDD and an internal 2TB hard drive.

I was being a stickler since I wanted the DVD menu access, so ISO was the way to go.


As for incorporating it into my HT set up, I used the following guide to give Windows Media Center ISO playback capability:

http://www.howtogeek.com/howto/11071/au ... ia-center/

You can just use XBMC as well, as that has native ISO support as well

[Gokuden]

Make an iso image using MagicIso, save those iso files on your external hdd, or cloud save space.

BAM.

[Jon Jon]

I realize that I never came back to this and I apologize for that.

The size is roughly 308GB.

[KentalSSJ6]

Know I'm gonna get some flack for this but am I the only one who finds the Dragon Boxes overrated? I mean my local library has Boxes 2, 4, and 5 and when I watched them compared to DBZ Kai, I wasent really that impressed.

I mean this comparison video doesn't really help the Dragon Box's case either http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rVQYcCtoGGA

[BluezaBladeNZ]

Well, the Dragon Box still has its fair share of problems too, like the audio is a well known one as the Master tape audio was never used (don't remember if it was confirmed that Toei did throw them away) and the colours were left untouched so it still has the fading from age, but it's still the highest quality complete version currently available as it was properly remastered (unlike the Orange Bricks). The swapped order for ending/next episode preview and anything else it was missing is another story.

It really is a shame that FUNimation stopped the Level set release as they were certainly an improvement (minus the crushed blacks) and they were scanned in HD, unlike the Dragon Box which was done at 480.

And most of the time, Youtube videos aren't going to help for a decent comparison as they have quite an amount of compression and anything else that can alter the look.

[eledoremassis02]

Know I'm gonna get some flack for this but am I the only one who finds the Dragon Boxes overrated? I mean my local library has Boxes 2, 4, and 5 and when I watched them compared to DBZ Kai, I wasent really that impressed.

I mean this comparison video doesn't really help the Dragon Box's case either http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rVQYcCtoGGA

Your has Boxes 2, 4!! I'm getting me a library card!! LOL

[fps_anth]

Okay so I've managed to back up some of my Japanese Dragon Box episodes as .MKV files with MakeMKV.

Now I'm having trouble ripping the subs off my American DVDs and timing them with the aforementioned ripped .MKV files. Can anyone tell me what a good program to rip subtitles is, or possibly point me in the direction of a guide I can use to get the subtitles off my American DVDs and working with my .MKV files?

Thanks in advance!

[KentalSSJ6]

Know I'm gonna get some flack for this but am I the only one who finds the Dragon Boxes overrated? I mean my local library has Boxes 2, 4, and 5 and when I watched them compared to DBZ Kai, I wasent really that impressed.

I mean this comparison video doesn't really help the Dragon Box's case either http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rVQYcCtoGGA

Your has Boxes 2, 4!! I'm getting me a library card!! LOL

Believe me when I first noticed they had nearly half the Dragon Boxes I nearly flipped my sh*t in excitement, having never seen them before until then. I kinda played dirty though and just held onto them for so long they just made me buy them all for 60 bucks. I should check the other library's around here.

[SupremeSSJ]

I use Dvd-Cloner. The best way to go.

[BlazingFiddlesticks]

Sadly menus and wanting both audio tracks is probably going to force me to go the ISO route. (More) expensive dual-layered DVDs and all. Wish I could go MakeMKV (Great program, used it for other discs recently), but the file size output would be insane, and only less so if did compressed rips. Thanks for that figure, JJ; I lack Box 2 like so many others so that will put my total at 264 GB. Sadly that'd take up nearly all the spare space I can afford on my external, so my backup will have to come later.

[pjay]

I lucked into a lot of good DVD+R DL sales on verbatim around 2009. As I got the boxes (yes even box 2) I backed some of them up 1:1 to DVD+R DL.

[SupremeSSJ]

I realize that I never came back to this and I apologize for that.

The size is roughly 308GB.

My file was 303 gig using dvd-cloner. full dvd copy 1:1 ratio.