Goku fighting Cyborg Freeza and King Cold on Earth

[WesMan23]

Would you liked to have seen it play out this way? I think it would be pretty awesome, just to see how it played out if Trunks hadn't arrived, and Goku had to get his hands dirty again. I think it would be a much more poignant death for Freeza, if Goku were the one to actually kill him, especially after nearly killing him on Namek, only for him to return. The fight with Freeza was on a very personal level with Goku, and as much as I love Trunks massacring Freeza and Cold effortlessly, I would've loved even more for Goku to finish the job he started. It would have had a much bigger effect, in my opinion.

[dbzfan7]

I liked what we got.

[Cursed Lemon]

Goku was stronger than future Trunks, so it wouldn't have been much of a fight either way.

I think using Freeza and King Cold as a "jumping off point" for the next arc was useful - it made the ultimate evil of the universe in the previous storyline seem absolutely insignificant compared to what was about to come.

[DoomieDoomie911]

It certainly would have been interesting to see.

[TheGmGoken]

Honestly would't. We already just saw Goku fight Freeza for god knows how long. King Cold being stronger or weaker than Freeza doesn't matter. If Trunks < Goku then Goku would destroy faster than Trunks.

[RandomGuy96]

Trunks only took them out fast because he attacked before Freeza could power up.

[TheGmGoken]

Trunks only took them out fast because he attacked before Freeza could power up.

Since this is a GF discussion. I didn't use that. I'm saying from a plot stand point. Goku would have beaten Freeza and Cold easily just as fast as Trunks. TO show that the new bad guys are much stronger.

[Cursed Lemon]

Trunks only took them out fast because he attacked before Freeza could power up.

It's debatable as to whether or not Freeza could even power up anymore in the same manner that he could back on Namek.

[Hellspawn28]

Goku most likely would have killed them fast just like Trunks did. Goku won't be stupid enough to give Freeza a second chance this time.

[Cold Skin]

I don't know if Goku would have ended their lives quickly, even when being more powerful than Trunks.
It's a trademark of Trunks' temper not to play around and to finish the opponents in a few seconds, he even warns Freezer that unlike what Goku did and/or would likely do in such a situation, he'll go full power to finish them quickly.
He does the same with the cyborgs and Cell in the future, and also shows he's not willing to play around when trying to kill 2nd form Cell before he can absorb C-18.

So I think it's something pretty exclusive to Trunks to kill opponents so quickly without wasting time and without taking any risk, Goku might have not done so against Freezer and Cold and might have tested their strength for a while, gradually increasing his power level and/or waiting for them to be exhausted and out of special moves before ending their lives, probably telling them that he can't afford to let them live and that they had coming by wasting the second chance he gave to Freezer.

[TheGmGoken]

I don't know if Goku would have ended their lives quickly, even when being more powerful than Trunks.
It's a trademark of Trunks' temper not to play around and to finish the opponents in a few seconds, he even warns Freezer that unlike what Goku did and/or would likely do in such a situation, he'll go full power to finish them quickly.
He does the same with the cyborgs and Cell in the future, and also shows he's not willing to play around when trying to kill 2nd form Cell before he can absorb C-18.

So I think it's something pretty exclusive to Trunks to kill opponents so quickly without wasting time and without taking any risk, Goku might have not done so against Freezer and Cold and might have tested their strength for a while, gradually increasing his power level and/or waiting for them to be exhausted and out of special moves before ending their lives, probably telling them that he's sorry but that they had coming by wasting the second chance he gave to Freezer.

In universe I agree. GF I don't. From a plot point of view. Goku would kill both easily. Once that happens Trunks or so will tell about the Cyborgs how they're stronger than him(Also a SSJ). In a nutshell it's Kill the old bad guy with ease to hype up a new one.

[mAcChaos]

GF?

[TheGmGoken]

GF?

General Franchise Discussion

[dario03]

I like the way it was done, but maybe if Trunks had killed them in the regular timeline and then during the story flashback or Trunks special it showed us how Goku did it that would be cool.
But I'm thinking maybe they should of used the whole things developing differently and changed how Cold and Freeza arrived. Basically say that in the original timeline Freeza and Cold came to Earth one after the other. But in the new timeline they came together so Trunks or Goku fights them both for a bit and despite being stronger than either he isn't strong enough to win alone. And then Trunks or Goku could join in and the 2 defeat them easily.
Theres a bunch of ways you could write that but I would go with Goku fighting them and when it looks like all hope is lose Trunks comes out of nowhere already a super saiyan and shocks everybody. Maybe have him slice Freeza in half as his entrance. I think something like that could of added a bit to the story and would of been a better reason for Trunks to interfere compared to the original story.
Or if done the other way and Trunks had been the one about to lose and Goku IT'd in it could of been used as a more dramatic return for him and better first showing of IT. Like Trunks could be so badly hurt that he can't move and Freeza or Cold has his sword and as the sword is coming down at Trunks Goku pops in and blocks it with finger and quickly takes them both out.

[Mjb1985]

Trunks did give Freeza a chance to come at him with full power, but Freeza arrogantly decided not to. Trunks vs Freeza at full power could have been quite interesting. Freeza already thought he was stronger than Goku and perhaps Trunks is only as strong as Goku was on Namek. I personally have a hard time seeing Trunks being so confident in his abilities and not being aware at least somewhat of Freeza's full power. He did have Gohan there as a witness and probably got the jist of it from him. I think Trunks still handles a full power Freeza without too much effort although I could never be certain.

[90sDBZ]

I imagine Goku would have killed Frieza in "cold blood" . He'd spared his life already and even saved it. He wouldn't give him another chance imo. And the fact that Frieza wasn't even a challenge to him anymore would eliminate any chance of him sparing him so they could fight again like with Piccolo and Vegeta. King Cold on the other hand is a different story. Goku had never met him before so this was his first offence so to speak. I'd imagine Goku would have given him a chance to live then Cold would have attacked him from behind or cheap-shotted him resulting in Goku killing him.

Here's an interesting thought. Maybe Goku did kill both of them and all the soldiers in cold blood in the other timeline due to giving into the fiery rage of a Super Saiyan and dying of that virus was his comeuppance for it.

Also even if Frieza could power up in Mecha form he still wouldn't be touching Trunks. Trunks was able to pretty much one-shot him so I doubt Frieza could get strong enough to make a difference.

[Super Saiyan Turlast x4]

Would've been interesting to see, but I think Goku would've destroyed them pretty fast. Based on what he said to Trunks, he was really tired of Freeza's crap and was ready to get rid of him for good. I doubt Goku would even consider giving Freeza a chance to get desperate like he did on namek. I doubt Freeza's new powers would've been effective against Goku or Trunks, honestly.

[Jackal puFF]

I would have loved to see how Goku would kill them. He hasn't killed a thing in his adult life besides Buu and movie villains.

[TheGmGoken]

I would have loved to see how Goku would kill them. He hasn't killed a thing in his adult life besides Buu and movie villains.

Grass
Plants
Tree
Dirt
water

All of these things are living and provides energy.

[dario03]

I would have loved to see how Goku would kill them. He hasn't killed a thing in his adult life besides Buu and movie villains.

Grass
Plants
Tree
Dirt
water

All of these things are living and provides energy.

Wait, dirt and water is alive? I know he got energy from them but I didn't think they classified them as alive.