The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by TheGmGoken » Mon Sep 02, 2013 2:17 pm

Super Buu did it to Gohan and Gotenks,
Gotenks Boo > Gohan
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Post by dbzfan7 » Mon Sep 02, 2013 3:23 pm

TheGmGoken wrote:
Super Buu did it to Gohan and Gotenks,
Gotenks Boo > Gohan
Boocollo (with kids) absorbed Gohan, not Bootenks.
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Post by TheGmGoken » Mon Sep 02, 2013 3:24 pm

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TheGmGoken wrote:
Super Buu did it to Gohan and Gotenks,
Gotenks Boo > Gohan
Boocollo (with kids) absorbed Gohan, not Bootenks.
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Post by dbzfan7 » Mon Sep 02, 2013 5:54 pm

SSJ3 Gotenks vs Ultimate Gohan (equal power levels no time limit)

I think the boys strange techniques could pull off a win as their pretty creative and helpful. Though Gohan is definitely better trained. Gotenks' confidence could be his downfall as well.
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Post by RandomGuy96 » Mon Sep 02, 2013 5:55 pm

Gohan probably trips on his shoe laces while performing a mouth blast, hitting the floor just as he fires it, resulting in it going off in his face. Gotenks wins.
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dbgtFO wrote: Please elaborate as I do not know what you mean by "pushing Vegeta's destruction"
He's probably referring to the Bardock special. Zarbon was the one who first recommended destroying Planet Vegeta because the saiyans were rapidly growing in strength.
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Herms wrote:The fact that the ridiculous power inflation is presented so earnestly makes me just roll my eyes and snicker. Like with Freeza, where he starts off over 10 times stronger than all his henchmen except Ginyu (because...well, just because), then we find out he can transform and get even more powerful, and then he reveals he can transform two more times, before finally coming out with the fact that he hasn't even been using anywhere near 50% of his power. Oh, and he can survive in the vacuum of space. All this stuff is just presented as the way Freeza is, without even an attempt at rationalizing it, yet the tone dictates we're supposed to take all this silly grasping at straws as thrilling danger. So I guess I don't really take the power inflation in the Boo arc seriously, but I don't take the power inflation in earlier arcs seriously either, so there's no net loss of seriousness. I think a silly story presented as serious is harder to accept than a silly story presented as silly.
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Post by DBZGTKOSDH » Mon Sep 02, 2013 5:57 pm

dbzfan7 wrote:SSJ3 Gotenks vs Ultimate Gohan (equal power levels no time limit)
Gotenks wins thanks for his superior techniques.
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Post by TheGmGoken » Mon Sep 02, 2013 6:00 pm

Gotenks weird attacks makes him win and gives the edge.
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Post by Kamiccolo9 » Mon Sep 02, 2013 6:56 pm

Double KO. Gohan is incapable of winning fights on his own, and Gotenks is too stupid to actually win a fight.
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Post by TheGmGoken » Mon Sep 02, 2013 6:58 pm

Kamiccolo9 wrote:Double KO. Gohan is incapable of winning fights on his own, and Gotenks is too stupid to actually win a fight.
He beat Cell Jr on his own.
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Post by Kamiccolo9 » Mon Sep 02, 2013 7:01 pm

TheGmGoken wrote:
Kamiccolo9 wrote:Double KO. Gohan is incapable of winning fights on his own, and Gotenks is too stupid to actually win a fight.
He beat Cell Jr on his own.
He wouldn't have transformed were it not for 16 having to hold his hand (figuratively speaking.)
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Post by dbzfan7 » Mon Sep 02, 2013 7:01 pm

Kamiccolo9 wrote:Double KO. Gohan is incapable of winning fights on his own, and Gotenks is too stupid to actually win a fight.
HAHA I can see this.
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Post by TheGmGoken » Mon Sep 02, 2013 7:02 pm

Kamiccolo9 wrote:
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Kamiccolo9 wrote:Double KO. Gohan is incapable of winning fights on his own, and Gotenks is too stupid to actually win a fight.
He beat Cell Jr on his own.
He wouldn't have transformed were it not for 16 having to hold his hand (figuratively speaking.)
Come on. Least give Gohan the Cell Jr win to himself.
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Post by RandomGuy96 » Mon Sep 02, 2013 7:04 pm

TheGmGoken wrote:Gotenks weird attacks makes him win and gives the edge.
Gotenks' attacks appear to be completely useless. His ring attack was broken out of by Gohan, even when BUUTENKS was using it, and his ghost attack can be detonated at a distance with ki blasts. The only way it'd work is if Gohan waits for them to arrive and punches them. And he'd never be that... oh wait.

If it does connect though, it's shown to be ridiculously powerful. SS Gotenks' nearly killed Super Buu, and Super Vegetto actually went through the trouble of detonating Buuhan's and avoiding them, heavily implying they would've killed him had they connected.
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dbgtFO wrote: Please elaborate as I do not know what you mean by "pushing Vegeta's destruction"
He's probably referring to the Bardock special. Zarbon was the one who first recommended destroying Planet Vegeta because the saiyans were rapidly growing in strength.
It was actually Beerus disguised as Zarbon #StayWoke
Herms wrote:The fact that the ridiculous power inflation is presented so earnestly makes me just roll my eyes and snicker. Like with Freeza, where he starts off over 10 times stronger than all his henchmen except Ginyu (because...well, just because), then we find out he can transform and get even more powerful, and then he reveals he can transform two more times, before finally coming out with the fact that he hasn't even been using anywhere near 50% of his power. Oh, and he can survive in the vacuum of space. All this stuff is just presented as the way Freeza is, without even an attempt at rationalizing it, yet the tone dictates we're supposed to take all this silly grasping at straws as thrilling danger. So I guess I don't really take the power inflation in the Boo arc seriously, but I don't take the power inflation in earlier arcs seriously either, so there's no net loss of seriousness. I think a silly story presented as serious is harder to accept than a silly story presented as silly.
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Post by ZombieVito » Mon Sep 02, 2013 7:48 pm

Piccolo (Post RoSaT) vs 40% MSSJ Goku.
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Post by Kaboom » Mon Sep 02, 2013 7:49 pm

Zombie wrote:Piccolo (Post RoSaT) vs 40% MSSJ Goku.
We've pretty much got a repeat of their 23rd World Tournament match on our hands, where either one of them could win.
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Post by RandomGuy96 » Mon Sep 02, 2013 7:51 pm

Zombie wrote:Piccolo (Post RoSaT) vs 40% MSSJ Goku.
Cell Games or Buu Saga? Screw it, I'll assume the former.

SS Goku (Cell Games)- 2,000,000,000
--40% power (vs Piccolo)- 800,000,000

Piccolo- 800,000,000

They'd be exact equals. It'd be a good fight, but Goku would take it, as he already beat Piccolo once at equal power levels, and has more tricks than him, such as Instant Transmission.
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dbgtFO wrote: Please elaborate as I do not know what you mean by "pushing Vegeta's destruction"
He's probably referring to the Bardock special. Zarbon was the one who first recommended destroying Planet Vegeta because the saiyans were rapidly growing in strength.
It was actually Beerus disguised as Zarbon #StayWoke
Herms wrote:The fact that the ridiculous power inflation is presented so earnestly makes me just roll my eyes and snicker. Like with Freeza, where he starts off over 10 times stronger than all his henchmen except Ginyu (because...well, just because), then we find out he can transform and get even more powerful, and then he reveals he can transform two more times, before finally coming out with the fact that he hasn't even been using anywhere near 50% of his power. Oh, and he can survive in the vacuum of space. All this stuff is just presented as the way Freeza is, without even an attempt at rationalizing it, yet the tone dictates we're supposed to take all this silly grasping at straws as thrilling danger. So I guess I don't really take the power inflation in the Boo arc seriously, but I don't take the power inflation in earlier arcs seriously either, so there's no net loss of seriousness. I think a silly story presented as serious is harder to accept than a silly story presented as silly.
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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by PerfectFreeza » Mon Sep 02, 2013 8:28 pm

I'd say Piccolo wins, as I belive he is exactly equal to 50% FPSSJ Goku.
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Post by TheMightyOzaru » Mon Sep 02, 2013 8:48 pm

Zombie wrote:Piccolo (Post RoSaT) vs 40% MSSJ Goku.
Goku wins:
FPSSJ Goku: 2,700,000,000
-40%: 1,080,000,000
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Post by dbzfan7 » Mon Sep 02, 2013 8:55 pm

I have Goku winning as well.
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Post by Kid Buu » Mon Sep 02, 2013 9:04 pm

Kamiccolo9 wrote:Double KO. Gohan is incapable of winning fights on his own, and Gotenks is too stupid to actually win a fight.
Yamcha Vs Gohan equal power levels then.
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