I'm pretty sure the question is whether a Vegeta(Buu arc) post ROSAT could handle Gotenks.DBZGTKOSDH wrote:Vegeta can't use Final Flash as a Super Saiyan. At least at that point of the story.
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Vegeta: "Funny... I seem to recall Kakarot being fed the same information right before he transformed; the distinct look on your faces when he went Super Saiyan didn't exactly inspire confidence. One does not predict or calculate power like ours."
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Holy crap 65%DBZGTKOSDH wrote:Piccolo wins. I have him at around 65% SS Goku.Zombie wrote:Piccolo (Post RoSaT) vs 40% MSSJ Goku.
Gotenks wins, easily.PerfectFreeza wrote:Base Gotenks(Pre-Rosat) vs. SSJ Vegeta(Post-1st Rosat).
Who wins?Gotenks doesn't have the time limit on him.
I settled with 42.5%, How strong you have Vegeta and Trunks on the CG?
New one:
Tired MSSJ Goku vs Rested MSSJ Goku (the one exiting the RoSaT that Vegeta said was still weaker than him and it's the same one that Cell fought on their warm up).
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I'm gonna go with the Rested Goku. Even if he is weaker, Goku's shown the endurance to take blows from stronger enemies before. Eventually the tired Goku will run out of power, and rested will take this.Zombie wrote:
New one:
Tired MSSJ Goku vs Rested MSSJ Goku (the one exiting the RoSaT that Vegeta said was still weaker than him and it's the same one that Cell fought on their warm up).
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The Daizenshuu state that Final Flash is a technique that can only be used in a form beyond Super Saiyan.
I have Vegeta and Trunks at 75% Goku.
I have Vegeta and Trunks at 75% Goku.
James Teal (Animerica 1996) wrote:When you think about it, there are a number of similarities between the Chinese-inspired Son Goku and that most American of superhero icons, Superman. Both are aliens sent to Earth shortly after birth to escape the destruction of their homeworlds; both possess super-strength, flight, super-speed, heightened senses and the ability to cast energy blasts. But the crucial difference between them lies not only in how they view the world, but in how the world views them.
Superman is, and always has been, a symbol for truth, justice, and upstanding moral fortitude–a role model and leader as much as a fighter. The more down-to-earth Goku has no illusions about being responsible for maintaining social order, or for setting some kind of moral example for the entire world. Goku is simply a martial artist who’s devoted his life toward perfecting his fighting skills and other abilities. Though never shy about risking his life to save either one person or the entire world, he just doesn’t believe that the balance of the world rests in any way on his shoulders, and he has no need to shape any part of it in his image. Goku is an idealist, and believes that there is some good in everyone, but he is unconcerned with the big picture of the world…unless it has to do with some kind of fight. Politics, society, law and order don’t have much bearing on his life, but he’s a man who knows right from wrong.
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Cell Saga SSJ2 Gohan VS Dabra.
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Cell arc Ssj Gohan beats Dabura 
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.Vegeta: "Funny... I seem to recall Kakarot being fed the same information right before he transformed; the distinct look on your faces when he went Super Saiyan didn't exactly inspire confidence. One does not predict or calculate power like ours."
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Enraged? Meh, either way, Dabra wins.KentalSSJ6 wrote:Cell Saga SSJ2 Gohan VS Dabra.
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The Monkey King wrote:It was actually Beerus disguised as Zarbon #StayWokeRandomGuy96 wrote:He's probably referring to the Bardock special. Zarbon was the one who first recommended destroying Planet Vegeta because the saiyans were rapidly growing in strength.dbgtFO wrote: Please elaborate as I do not know what you mean by "pushing Vegeta's destruction"
Herms wrote:The fact that the ridiculous power inflation is presented so earnestly makes me just roll my eyes and snicker. Like with Freeza, where he starts off over 10 times stronger than all his henchmen except Ginyu (because...well, just because), then we find out he can transform and get even more powerful, and then he reveals he can transform two more times, before finally coming out with the fact that he hasn't even been using anywhere near 50% of his power. Oh, and he can survive in the vacuum of space. All this stuff is just presented as the way Freeza is, without even an attempt at rationalizing it, yet the tone dictates we're supposed to take all this silly grasping at straws as thrilling danger. So I guess I don't really take the power inflation in the Boo arc seriously, but I don't take the power inflation in earlier arcs seriously either, so there's no net loss of seriousness. I think a silly story presented as serious is harder to accept than a silly story presented as silly.
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MSSJ Gohan from the CG is enough.
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Dabra gets easily destroyed.
James Teal (Animerica 1996) wrote:When you think about it, there are a number of similarities between the Chinese-inspired Son Goku and that most American of superhero icons, Superman. Both are aliens sent to Earth shortly after birth to escape the destruction of their homeworlds; both possess super-strength, flight, super-speed, heightened senses and the ability to cast energy blasts. But the crucial difference between them lies not only in how they view the world, but in how the world views them.
Superman is, and always has been, a symbol for truth, justice, and upstanding moral fortitude–a role model and leader as much as a fighter. The more down-to-earth Goku has no illusions about being responsible for maintaining social order, or for setting some kind of moral example for the entire world. Goku is simply a martial artist who’s devoted his life toward perfecting his fighting skills and other abilities. Though never shy about risking his life to save either one person or the entire world, he just doesn’t believe that the balance of the world rests in any way on his shoulders, and he has no need to shape any part of it in his image. Goku is an idealist, and believes that there is some good in everyone, but he is unconcerned with the big picture of the world…unless it has to do with some kind of fight. Politics, society, law and order don’t have much bearing on his life, but he’s a man who knows right from wrong.
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OVerkill. SSJ GOhan is enoughKentalSSJ6 wrote:Cell Saga SSJ2 Gohan VS Dabra.
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Super Vegetto (with SSGod power) vs Super Vegetto (with SSGod power)
OK, let me make things more clear:
The first Vegetto is composed of Goku & Vegeta that transformed both into Super Saiyan God, and absorbed its power in their base & Super Saiyan. Then, they merged with the Potara in base, and then Vegetto turned Super Saiyan
The second Vegetto is composed of Goku & Vegeta that haven't transformed into Super Saiyan God, in other words, they are mortals. So, they merged with the Potara, then Vegetto transformed into a Super Saiyan God, and then absorbed its power & turned Super Saiyan.
P.S.: Both pairs of Goku & Vegeta are from the 28th Tenkaichi Budokai era, and Goku, Vegeta, and Vegetto transformed all into a Super Saiyan God with help from SS Gohan, SS Goten, SS Trunks, Pan, and Bra.
OK, let me make things more clear:
The first Vegetto is composed of Goku & Vegeta that transformed both into Super Saiyan God, and absorbed its power in their base & Super Saiyan. Then, they merged with the Potara in base, and then Vegetto turned Super Saiyan
The second Vegetto is composed of Goku & Vegeta that haven't transformed into Super Saiyan God, in other words, they are mortals. So, they merged with the Potara, then Vegetto transformed into a Super Saiyan God, and then absorbed its power & turned Super Saiyan.
P.S.: Both pairs of Goku & Vegeta are from the 28th Tenkaichi Budokai era, and Goku, Vegeta, and Vegetto transformed all into a Super Saiyan God with help from SS Gohan, SS Goten, SS Trunks, Pan, and Bra.
James Teal (Animerica 1996) wrote:When you think about it, there are a number of similarities between the Chinese-inspired Son Goku and that most American of superhero icons, Superman. Both are aliens sent to Earth shortly after birth to escape the destruction of their homeworlds; both possess super-strength, flight, super-speed, heightened senses and the ability to cast energy blasts. But the crucial difference between them lies not only in how they view the world, but in how the world views them.
Superman is, and always has been, a symbol for truth, justice, and upstanding moral fortitude–a role model and leader as much as a fighter. The more down-to-earth Goku has no illusions about being responsible for maintaining social order, or for setting some kind of moral example for the entire world. Goku is simply a martial artist who’s devoted his life toward perfecting his fighting skills and other abilities. Though never shy about risking his life to save either one person or the entire world, he just doesn’t believe that the balance of the world rests in any way on his shoulders, and he has no need to shape any part of it in his image. Goku is an idealist, and believes that there is some good in everyone, but he is unconcerned with the big picture of the world…unless it has to do with some kind of fight. Politics, society, law and order don’t have much bearing on his life, but he’s a man who knows right from wrong.
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SSG Goku/Vegeta burns out the fusion's life. Vegito drops dead mid-battle.
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They don't merge as Super Saiyan Gods. They merge in base after absorbing the power of Super Saiyan God.Rocketman wrote:SSG Goku/Vegeta burns out the fusion's life. Vegito drops dead mid-battle.
James Teal (Animerica 1996) wrote:When you think about it, there are a number of similarities between the Chinese-inspired Son Goku and that most American of superhero icons, Superman. Both are aliens sent to Earth shortly after birth to escape the destruction of their homeworlds; both possess super-strength, flight, super-speed, heightened senses and the ability to cast energy blasts. But the crucial difference between them lies not only in how they view the world, but in how the world views them.
Superman is, and always has been, a symbol for truth, justice, and upstanding moral fortitude–a role model and leader as much as a fighter. The more down-to-earth Goku has no illusions about being responsible for maintaining social order, or for setting some kind of moral example for the entire world. Goku is simply a martial artist who’s devoted his life toward perfecting his fighting skills and other abilities. Though never shy about risking his life to save either one person or the entire world, he just doesn’t believe that the balance of the world rests in any way on his shoulders, and he has no need to shape any part of it in his image. Goku is an idealist, and believes that there is some good in everyone, but he is unconcerned with the big picture of the world…unless it has to do with some kind of fight. Politics, society, law and order don’t have much bearing on his life, but he’s a man who knows right from wrong.
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Ok, I have crafted a minimalist list for this fight. Here is where I have them:PerfectFreeza wrote:Base Gotenks(Pre-Rosat) vs. SSJ Vegeta(Post-1st Rosat).
Who wins?Gotenks doesn't have the time limit on him.
Non-Minimalist:
FPSSJ Vegeta: 4,000,000,000-6,000,000,000
FPSSJ Gotenks: 21,000,000,000
Minimalist:
FPSSJ Vegeta: 4,000,000,000-6,000,000,000
FPSSJ Gotenks: 7,500,000,000
Yeah even heavily reducing Gotenks, Vegeta still loses.
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Bojack VS Dabra.
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Dabra one-shots him. Even if I didn't believe Dabra was fighting a SS2 (and that said SS2 was stronger than the one that two-shotted Bojack), Bojack's still an idiot who's arrogant, a giant target, and doesn't wear a shirt. He also knows nothing about Dabra's abilities. An ideal target for the spit.KentalSSJ6 wrote:Bojack VS Dabra.
The Monkey King wrote:It was actually Beerus disguised as Zarbon #StayWokeRandomGuy96 wrote:He's probably referring to the Bardock special. Zarbon was the one who first recommended destroying Planet Vegeta because the saiyans were rapidly growing in strength.dbgtFO wrote: Please elaborate as I do not know what you mean by "pushing Vegeta's destruction"
Herms wrote:The fact that the ridiculous power inflation is presented so earnestly makes me just roll my eyes and snicker. Like with Freeza, where he starts off over 10 times stronger than all his henchmen except Ginyu (because...well, just because), then we find out he can transform and get even more powerful, and then he reveals he can transform two more times, before finally coming out with the fact that he hasn't even been using anywhere near 50% of his power. Oh, and he can survive in the vacuum of space. All this stuff is just presented as the way Freeza is, without even an attempt at rationalizing it, yet the tone dictates we're supposed to take all this silly grasping at straws as thrilling danger. So I guess I don't really take the power inflation in the Boo arc seriously, but I don't take the power inflation in earlier arcs seriously either, so there's no net loss of seriousness. I think a silly story presented as serious is harder to accept than a silly story presented as silly.
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Dabura struggled against Ssj Teen Gohan. Bojack forced Kid Got an to transform into Ssj2. Bojack takes this easily in terms of power but Dabura's spit is a real wild card.
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Perhaps not by much, but I think Bojack is the stronger of the two. SS Gohan was no match for him.
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I think Dabra is a little stronger, and has his magical techniques. So, he wins after a short fight.KentalSSJ6 wrote:Bojack VS Dabra.
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James Teal (Animerica 1996) wrote:When you think about it, there are a number of similarities between the Chinese-inspired Son Goku and that most American of superhero icons, Superman. Both are aliens sent to Earth shortly after birth to escape the destruction of their homeworlds; both possess super-strength, flight, super-speed, heightened senses and the ability to cast energy blasts. But the crucial difference between them lies not only in how they view the world, but in how the world views them.
Superman is, and always has been, a symbol for truth, justice, and upstanding moral fortitude–a role model and leader as much as a fighter. The more down-to-earth Goku has no illusions about being responsible for maintaining social order, or for setting some kind of moral example for the entire world. Goku is simply a martial artist who’s devoted his life toward perfecting his fighting skills and other abilities. Though never shy about risking his life to save either one person or the entire world, he just doesn’t believe that the balance of the world rests in any way on his shoulders, and he has no need to shape any part of it in his image. Goku is an idealist, and believes that there is some good in everyone, but he is unconcerned with the big picture of the world…unless it has to do with some kind of fight. Politics, society, law and order don’t have much bearing on his life, but he’s a man who knows right from wrong.
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Perfect Cell VS Fat Buu.
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