Is the Super Saiyan God's power permanent?

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Is the Super Saiyan God's power permanent?

Post by Dr. Machismo » Tue Sep 03, 2013 8:02 pm

Please tell me it isn't lol. Goku randomly becoming this practically ominpotent being due to some random ritual is super, super lame.
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Re: Is the Super Saiyan God's power permanent?

Post by ZombieVito » Tue Sep 03, 2013 8:15 pm

It is.

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Re: Is the Super Saiyan God's power permanent?

Post by Dr. Machismo » Tue Sep 03, 2013 8:37 pm

Zombie wrote:It is.
Proof?
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Re: Is the Super Saiyan God's power permanent?

Post by Saiyatonian » Tue Sep 03, 2013 8:58 pm

That doesn't mean Goku is omnipotent. If he was omnipotent, he could literally wish Beers away and be done with it.
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Re: Is the Super Saiyan God's power permanent?

Post by Dr. Machismo » Tue Sep 03, 2013 9:01 pm

It's still lame how he randomly got stronger through some random ritual. Hopefully Goku lost the power after he got exhausted from fighting Bills.
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Re: Is the Super Saiyan God's power permanent?

Post by Chuquita » Tue Sep 03, 2013 9:32 pm

He keeps it, but if it's any consolation, Gokû doesn't like it.
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Re: Is the Super Saiyan God's power permanent?

Post by Dr. Machismo » Tue Sep 03, 2013 9:34 pm

Chuquita wrote:He keeps it, but if it's any consolation, Gokû doesn't like it.
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Re: Is the Super Saiyan God's power permanent?

Post by goku the krump dancer » Tue Sep 03, 2013 10:55 pm

When a Saiyan becomes Super Saiyan God, they don't become gods in a literal since.. Goku can't create planets and life forms and such, he just becomes ridiculously powerful for debatably a set amount of time. I doubt it lasts forever.

SSJGod is basically a glorified ki sharing technique thats Saiyan Specific. I don't get the hate for it, if Namekians can have their own fusion method that results in INSANE power boost then why can't Saiyans have a Ki sharing technique that temporarily makes them insanely powerful (depending on the who's using it, I doubt the original SSJGod was any near even GInyu's strength)?
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Re: Is the Super Saiyan God's power permanent?

Post by Tenshin_Saiyan » Tue Sep 03, 2013 10:57 pm

BOG detailed synopsis:
They seem to be evenly matched and Beerus is pleased with how things are going, but notices that Goku seems dissatisfied. Goku says he is, a little bit. Does he not like being a god, Beerus wonders? Goku says he never knew there was a realm of power like this, but does not like the fact that he could not reach it on his own. They continue fighting, but Beerus finds what Goku said interesting. Does he not like that he became a god with his friends’ help?

[...] Goku apparently did not notice, because as he fought he absorbed that realm of power into his body. Due to this, even after returning to normal, Goku still did not power down very much. Beerus says that Goku is really something, a rare genius. Now he should be able to be perfectly happy, since this is what he wanted.
Yes, he keeps it. As Beerus said, Goku is a rare genius. The SSJ God's powers should be just temporary due the time limit, but Goku was able to reach it on his own. Besides, after the battle, Whis offers Goku the job of being the next God of Destruction...If the SSJ God's power was not permanent, why would he do that? Goku says if Beers tries to destroy the earth, then they will just have to fight again... How he could fight again with Beerus if the SSJ God's power was not permanent? Goku didn't like the way he became a god, so it's clear he would only fight again with Beers if he could use his own powers.

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Re: Is the Super Saiyan God's power permanent?

Post by Dr. Machismo » Tue Sep 03, 2013 11:23 pm

Tenshin_Saiyan wrote:If the SSJ God's power was not permanent, why would he do that? How he could fight again with Beerus if the SSJ God's power was not permanent
Maybe Goku could just do another ritual?
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Re: Is the Super Saiyan God's power permanent?

Post by TheMightyOzaru » Tue Sep 03, 2013 11:24 pm

It's unknown whether he kept it or not. The movie tried to keep it vague by letting Goku turn into a SSJ God again at the end of the film. It, however, should be noted that Goku did initiate the transformation on his own with no ritual. He might generally have SSJ God now instead of having SSJ with God powers.
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Re: Is the Super Saiyan God's power permanent?

Post by Rocketman » Tue Sep 03, 2013 11:46 pm

No, because nobody talks like it is years later when Uub shows up.

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Re: Is the Super Saiyan God's power permanent?

Post by Tenshin_Saiyan » Tue Sep 03, 2013 11:48 pm

Dr. Machismo wrote:
Tenshin_Saiyan wrote:If the SSJ God's power was not permanent, why would he do that? How he could fight again with Beerus if the SSJ God's power was not permanent
Maybe Goku could just do another ritual?
Goku simply doesn't like it . I doubt he'd do another ritual.

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Re: Is the Super Saiyan God's power permanent?

Post by TheMightyOzaru » Wed Sep 04, 2013 12:06 am

Rocketman wrote:No, because nobody talks like it is years later when Uub shows up.
Considering Goku was fighting Uub in base, I don't think there any issues present at the end of the manga that would prevent Goku from keeping Ssj God. Especially if he can still go Ssj, Ssj2, and Ssj3.
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Re: Is the Super Saiyan God's power permanent?

Post by Dr. Machismo » Wed Sep 04, 2013 12:07 am

Tenshin_Saiyan wrote: Goku simply doesn't like it . I doubt he'd do another ritual.
You were saying that Bills wouldn't ask Goku to be the next God of Destruction and Goku couldn't fight against Bills again if the power wasn't permanent. Goku could still do another ritual, so Whis' offer still makes sense and Goku could still fight Bills.
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Re: Is the Super Saiyan God's power permanent?

Post by DBZGTKOSDH » Wed Sep 04, 2013 3:24 am

He most likely doesn't keep it, since Goku seems to be about as strong as he was in Boo arc during the 28th TB (he wanted to fight with Oob, who was as strong as Pure Boo, with 100% stamina, and he even considered the possibility of losing, though it turned out that Oob had to train), and he can go Super Saiyan 2 & Super Saiyan 3 normally in GT. Plus, Vegeta said in BoG that he will be the Super Saiyan God next time, implying that Goku lost the power. He could have kept it though probably if he hadn't transformed into a Super Saiyan God for a 2nd time.
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Superman is, and always has been, a symbol for truth, justice, and upstanding moral fortitude–a role model and leader as much as a fighter. The more down-to-earth Goku has no illusions about being responsible for maintaining social order, or for setting some kind of moral example for the entire world. Goku is simply a martial artist who’s devoted his life toward perfecting his fighting skills and other abilities. Though never shy about risking his life to save either one person or the entire world, he just doesn’t believe that the balance of the world rests in any way on his shoulders, and he has no need to shape any part of it in his image. Goku is an idealist, and believes that there is some good in everyone, but he is unconcerned with the big picture of the world…unless it has to do with some kind of fight. Politics, society, law and order don’t have much bearing on his life, but he’s a man who knows right from wrong.

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Re: Is the Super Saiyan God's power permanent?

Post by Dr. Machismo » Wed Sep 04, 2013 2:56 pm

DBZGTKOSDH wrote:He most likely doesn't keep it, since Goku seems to be about as strong as he was in Boo arc during the 28th TB (he wanted to fight with Oob, who was as strong as Pure Boo, with 100% stamina, and he even considered the possibility of losing, though it turned out that Oob had to train), and he can go Super Saiyan 2 & Super Saiyan 3 normally in GT. Plus, Vegeta said in BoG that he will be the Super Saiyan God next time, implying that Goku lost the power. He could have kept it though probably if he hadn't transformed into a Super Saiyan God for a 2nd time.
But we don't how strong Uub exactly was in that tournament
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Re: Is the Super Saiyan God's power permanent?

Post by dbzfan7 » Wed Sep 04, 2013 3:00 pm

DBZGTKOSDH wrote:He most likely doesn't keep it, since Goku seems to be about as strong as he was in Boo arc during the 28th TB (he wanted to fight with Oob, who was as strong as Pure Boo, with 100% stamina, and he even considered the possibility of losing, though it turned out that Oob had to train), and he can go Super Saiyan 2 & Super Saiyan 3 normally in GT. Plus, Vegeta said in BoG that he will be the Super Saiyan God next time, implying that Goku lost the power. He could have kept it though probably if he hadn't transformed into a Super Saiyan God for a 2nd time.
I agree with this. If Goku kept the power of SSJ God then Oob would be no challenge. We saw him fight in base with that power as well. Vegeta even confirms him taking Oob had nothing to do with protecting earth. So Oob had to pose some kind of challenge for Goku.
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Re: Is the Super Saiyan God's power permanent?

Post by DBZGTKOSDH » Wed Sep 04, 2013 3:40 pm

Dr. Machismo wrote:But we don't how strong Uub exactly was in that tournament
Goku believed that Oob would be strong enough to defeat him (not in base, since Goku included Mr. Boo), and wanted to fight him when they are both at 100% stamina. He was saying all the time that he was a very strong guy that had suppressed his great power. After their fight, Goku says that Oob is as strong as he was expecting him to be, but he couldn't control his power (he could only use it through his rage), and didn't even know how to fight or use ki (he couldn't even fly). Which is why Goku wanted to train him.

To put it simple, when Oob unleashed his full power (after the Kiai), his power was implied to be around Pure Boo's level (strong enough to maybe even defeat SS3 Goku, if he had received training). When he was fighting evenly with Goku though (before the Kiai), he was probably at a much lower level (though he seemed slightly stronger than base Goku). So yes, we do know how strong Oob is.
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Superman is, and always has been, a symbol for truth, justice, and upstanding moral fortitude–a role model and leader as much as a fighter. The more down-to-earth Goku has no illusions about being responsible for maintaining social order, or for setting some kind of moral example for the entire world. Goku is simply a martial artist who’s devoted his life toward perfecting his fighting skills and other abilities. Though never shy about risking his life to save either one person or the entire world, he just doesn’t believe that the balance of the world rests in any way on his shoulders, and he has no need to shape any part of it in his image. Goku is an idealist, and believes that there is some good in everyone, but he is unconcerned with the big picture of the world…unless it has to do with some kind of fight. Politics, society, law and order don’t have much bearing on his life, but he’s a man who knows right from wrong.

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Re: Is the Super Saiyan God's power permanent?

Post by Zephyr » Wed Sep 04, 2013 3:54 pm

Are you asking if there's an officially correct answer? Because there isn't one.

As for opinions, I don't think it is.

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