The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by Kamiccolo9 » Wed Sep 04, 2013 8:28 pm

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TheGmGoken wrote: IN a nuthsell. I'm saying that guy was Bruce Lee even though I know he's not. Since Bruce lee isn't DB. It was a cheap excuse for Brucee Lee vs Satan
Against real Bruce Lee I'm not sure. Mr. Satan has the strength advantage and he is an accomplished Martial artist.
Didn't Toriyama say that Mr. Satan was not as good as Bob Sapp (whoever that is)? It was probably a joke, but I think that's the only compared strength feat between IRL people and Dragon Ball characters.
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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by dbzfan7 » Wed Sep 04, 2013 8:29 pm

Kamiccolo9 wrote: Didn't Toriyama say that Mr. Satan was not as good as Bob Sapp (whoever that is)? It was probably a joke, but I think that's the only compared strength feat between IRL people and Dragon Ball characters.
I really don't know if that was ever said.
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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by Kamiccolo9 » Wed Sep 04, 2013 8:31 pm

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Kamiccolo9 wrote: Didn't Toriyama say that Mr. Satan was not as good as Bob Sapp (whoever that is)? It was probably a joke, but I think that's the only compared strength feat between IRL people and Dragon Ball characters.
I really don't know if that was ever said.
Herms wrote:That's in the book DB Forever. In a Q&A, Toriyama is asked how strong Mister Satan is, and he answers that "I think he's pretty strong. But...I get the feeling he's not quite as strong as Bob Sapp (laughs)".
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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by TheGmGoken » Wed Sep 04, 2013 8:31 pm

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Kamiccolo9 wrote: Didn't Toriyama say that Mr. Satan was not as good as Bob Sapp (whoever that is)? It was probably a joke, but I think that's the only compared strength feat between IRL people and Dragon Ball characters.
I really don't know if that was ever said.
Robert Malcolm "Bob" Sapp (Japanese: [Bobu Sappu]; born September 22, 1973)[2][3] is an American kickboxer, mixed martial artist, professional wrestler, actor, comedian and former professional American football player. Sapp has a combined fight record of 22–32–1, mostly fighting in Japan. He is well known in Japan, where he has appeared in numerous commercials, television programs, and various other media, and has released a music CD, It's Sapp Time. He also appeared in an episode of the HBO program Real Sports with Bryant Gumbel. He is currently working sporadically for various MMA promotions in the U.S., Japan, and Europe.

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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by dbzfan7 » Wed Sep 04, 2013 8:33 pm

Kamiccolo9 wrote:
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Kamiccolo9 wrote: Didn't Toriyama say that Mr. Satan was not as good as Bob Sapp (whoever that is)? It was probably a joke, but I think that's the only compared strength feat between IRL people and Dragon Ball characters.
I really don't know if that was ever said.
Herms wrote:That's in the book DB Forever. In a Q&A, Toriyama is asked how strong Mister Satan is, and he answers that "I think he's pretty strong. But...I get the feeling he's not quite as strong as Bob Sapp (laughs)".
I wonder what Bob Sapp's feats are then compared to Mr. Satan.
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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by RandomGuy96 » Wed Sep 04, 2013 9:18 pm

Anime Mr. Satan is easily low to mid street level in super terms. He's done stuff like KO a 7 foot tall muscle bound freak with one casual kick, sending said freak flying, shrug off being hit into a mountain at high velocity (both the impact and fall), pull several buses by a rope, move so fast normal humans can't see him, and leap a very large distance into the air. He also carries around a .45 pistol. In the games he also has a jetpack and a seemingly unlimited supply of grenades.

Even without the weapons, I think he can take Bruce.
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He's probably referring to the Bardock special. Zarbon was the one who first recommended destroying Planet Vegeta because the saiyans were rapidly growing in strength.
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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by TheGmGoken » Wed Sep 04, 2013 10:05 pm

Even without the weapons, I think he can take Bruce.
Depends. Bruce Lee vs Bob Sapp. If Bruce Lee can beat Bob then Bruce Lee > Satan.

Btw here's a picture of Bob
According to most people Bob Sapp would get Destroyed by Mike Tyson. So Mike Tyson vs Bruce. If Bruce is better then Satan loses. THis is mostly a C/P so...here's some info on Bob Sapps
I'll post the most important info right here: He has a 11-16 win loss record, mostly by Knock out(His loses). in Kickboxing and in MMA he has a 11-18 lost by tapping out(His loses).

So with those. I'll say Bruce could kick his ass. So Bruce Lee(Pretending that guy on the street was Bruce Lee) could beat Satan.

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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by dbzfan7 » Wed Sep 04, 2013 10:11 pm

Muten Roshi (21st TB)/(22nd TB) vs Tao Pai Pai

Max power included if he needs the help.
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Post by Kamiccolo9 » Wed Sep 04, 2013 10:22 pm

dbzfan7 wrote:Muten Roshi (21st TB) vs Tao Pai Pai

Max power included if he needs the help.
Tao shoves his fingers through Roshi's temple.
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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by TheGmGoken » Wed Sep 04, 2013 10:28 pm

dbzfan7 wrote:Muten Roshi (21st TB) vs Tao Pai Pai

Max power included if he needs the help.
Tao Pai Pai.

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Post by dbzfan7 » Wed Sep 04, 2013 10:30 pm

I added 22nd in now.
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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by TheGmGoken » Wed Sep 04, 2013 10:31 pm

dbzfan7 wrote:I added 22nd in now.
Roshi uses his dirty porno to gain power and kick Pai Pai ass.

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Post by Kamiccolo9 » Wed Sep 04, 2013 10:32 pm

22nd Roshi turns Tao inside out.
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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by TheGmGoken » Wed Sep 04, 2013 10:33 pm

Kamiccolo9 wrote:22nd Roshi turns Tao inside out.
What if Tao throws a porno and Tao licks him.

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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by Kid Buu » Wed Sep 04, 2013 10:42 pm

Piccolo VS SSJ Goten Buu arc.

A lot of people think Goten is stronger than Piccolo here, but Piccolo has much superior skills and techiniques. Who takes it?
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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by TheGmGoken » Wed Sep 04, 2013 10:50 pm

Kid Buu wrote:Piccolo VS SSJ Goten Buu arc.

A lot of people think Goten is stronger than Piccolo here, but Piccolo has much superior skills and techiniques. Who takes it?
Plot device or no plot device?

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Post by ZombieVito » Wed Sep 04, 2013 11:06 pm

Goten takes this.

My numbers:

SSJ Goten (RoSaT): 4,100
SSJ Goten: 3,500
Piccolo: 2,200

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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by Kamiccolo9 » Wed Sep 04, 2013 11:10 pm

As much as I hate it, Goten is stronger.

Piccolo still wins by tricking him into flying into space or something though.
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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by TheGmGoken » Wed Sep 04, 2013 11:12 pm

Kamiccolo9 wrote:As much as I hate it, Goten is stronger.

Piccolo still wins by tricking him into flying into space or something though.
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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by RandomGuy96 » Wed Sep 04, 2013 11:26 pm

Kid Buu wrote:Piccolo VS SSJ Goten Buu arc.

A lot of people think Goten is stronger than Piccolo here, but Piccolo has much superior skills and techiniques. Who takes it?
Remember Piccolo's attempt to fight Imperfect Cell? Where Cell tanked his strongest attack and took him out with one punch?

That's what happens here, with Goten as Cell.
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He's probably referring to the Bardock special. Zarbon was the one who first recommended destroying Planet Vegeta because the saiyans were rapidly growing in strength.
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Herms wrote:The fact that the ridiculous power inflation is presented so earnestly makes me just roll my eyes and snicker. Like with Freeza, where he starts off over 10 times stronger than all his henchmen except Ginyu (because...well, just because), then we find out he can transform and get even more powerful, and then he reveals he can transform two more times, before finally coming out with the fact that he hasn't even been using anywhere near 50% of his power. Oh, and he can survive in the vacuum of space. All this stuff is just presented as the way Freeza is, without even an attempt at rationalizing it, yet the tone dictates we're supposed to take all this silly grasping at straws as thrilling danger. So I guess I don't really take the power inflation in the Boo arc seriously, but I don't take the power inflation in earlier arcs seriously either, so there's no net loss of seriousness. I think a silly story presented as serious is harder to accept than a silly story presented as silly.

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