"(Super) Dragon Ball Heroes" Official Discussion Thread

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Re: Dragon Ball Heroes

Post by DBZGTKOSDH » Tue Sep 10, 2013 11:10 am

... SS3 Broli is one of the SEC? :|
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Post by TheDevilsCorpse » Tue Sep 10, 2013 11:27 am

Yeah, and the only thing new about him I can see is that he transforms into Super Saiyan 3 from "Legendary" Super Saiyan instead of just the regular Super Saiyan state via one of those variable "?" transformation effects.

I don't like it, but it kiiiinda makes sense from a "story" perspective since Hatchihyack was compared to Broli in strength. But it still seems rather pointless.
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Post by Travis Touchdown » Tue Sep 10, 2013 12:28 pm

I still find it incredibly odd that Future Gohan is getting a bit of spotlight. He's always been the "forgotten" Gohan for years. Here I've been anxiously awaiting the announcement of SSJ3 Gohan & Goten and then out of the blue; Future Gohan gets SSJ3 before Gohan. It's kinda cool to see this character get some attention in the last 5 years. Ever since the last Raging Blast I thought he'd faded back into obscurity.
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Re: Dragon Ball Heroes

Post by JeffJarrett » Tue Sep 10, 2013 4:56 pm

Now that Future Gohan has Super Saiyan 3, as for Future Trunks and GT Trunks, Adult Gohan (or Teen Gohan) will probably have it.

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Re: Dragon Ball Heroes

Post by gokugambitoptimus » Wed Sep 11, 2013 9:24 am

My theory of Baby + Hatchiyack + Cell is better than Broly LSSJ3, for me is a waste of secret card

Guys, do you think they will introduce a new goku ssj card with the new suit of Battle of Z (Naruto style) ?

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Re: Dragon Ball Heroes

Post by DNA » Thu Sep 12, 2013 12:40 pm

Ok so the website has updated with the secret cards and the new background (wallpaper time!). Hatchiyack's final form (HG10-SEC) has an... elaborate description, doesn't seem to simply say "transformed". Super 17 (HG10-47) also says something under his name, it might be the "artificial human absorbed" one. Can someone fluent in Japanese shed a clue?

Also, I think it's interesting that Super 17 is the sole one which says Ultra 17 instead, everyone else is Super Uub, Super Baby, Super Baby 2 and Super Σ. It seems the Super characters are written as "Sūpā" and 17 gives out as Chō, which Google suggests either Ultra or Hyper. For Rild it's literally "Haipāmega". So I believe there is supposed to be a distinction when a character is "Super" and when a character is "Chō" instead.

Managed to translate a bit of Hatchiyacks text and it says Power Up something.

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Post by Shoryuken » Thu Sep 12, 2013 2:36 pm

DNA wrote:Ok so the website has updated with the secret cards and the new background (wallpaper time!). Hatchiyack's final form (HG10-SEC) has an... elaborate description, doesn't seem to simply say "transformed". Super 17 (HG10-47) also says something under his name, it might be the "artificial human absorbed" one. Can someone fluent in Japanese shed a clue?

Also, I think it's interesting that Super 17 is the sole one which says Ultra 17 instead, everyone else is Super Uub, Super Baby, Super Baby 2 and Super Σ. It seems the Super characters are written as "Sūpā" and 17 gives out as Chō, which Google suggests either Ultra or Hyper. For Rild it's literally "Haipāmega". So I believe there is supposed to be a distinction when a character is "Super" and when a character is "Chō" instead.

Managed to translate a bit of Hatchiyacks text and it says Power Up something.
His special ability is "Hatred Amplification Apparatus" (怨念増幅装置 Onnen Zoufuku Souchi); 怨念 (litterally "Desire of Grudge") can also mean "malice" or "grudge" i.e. their grudge towards the Saiyans perphaps? So he is more or less figuratively running on hate. Also the "Power up" description in question reads "Powered Up Form (パワーアップ形態 Pawā Appu Keitai)".
His special attack is the grandiosely titled "Full Charge Revenger Cannon (フルチャージリベンジャーカノン Furu Chāji Ribenjā Kanon)".

I think the case with "Super" being written as "超" with "Supā" as furigana is more or less to denote that it's 17's transformation akin to how the SSJ states are written in a similar manner, whereas "Super" is merely just part of Sigma's designation than a proper moniker denoting an actual transformation.
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Post by DNA » Thu Sep 12, 2013 2:43 pm

Shoryuken wrote:His special ability is "Hatred Amplification Apparatus" (怨念増幅装置 Onnen Zoufuku Souchi); 怨念 (litterally "Desire of Grudge") can also mean "malice" or "grudge" i.e. their grudge towards the Saiyans perphaps? So he is more or less figuratively running on hate. Also the "Power up" description in question reads "Powered Up Form (パワーアップ形態 Pawā Appu Keitai)".
His special attack is the grandiosely titled "Full Charge Revenger Cannon (フルチャージリベンジャーカノン Furu Chāji Ribenjā Kanon)".
Yeah everything else is pretty much the same as Google translated, but the tiny pics with the forms are images, which obviously Google cannot translate. That transformation name is a bit less impressive than I expected but it describes it pretty well I guess.
Any clue on Super 17's? Is the the "Artificial Human Absorbed" thing?

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Post by Shoryuken » Thu Sep 12, 2013 2:48 pm

DNA wrote:
Shoryuken wrote:His special ability is "Hatred Amplification Apparatus" (怨念増幅装置 Onnen Zoufuku Souchi); 怨念 (litterally "Desire of Grudge") can also mean "malice" or "grudge" i.e. their grudge towards the Saiyans perphaps? So he is more or less figuratively running on hate. Also the "Power up" description in question reads "Powered Up Form (パワーアップ形態 Pawā Appu Keitai)".
His special attack is the grandiosely titled "Full Charge Revenger Cannon (フルチャージリベンジャーカノン Furu Chāji Ribenjā Kanon)".
Yeah everything else is pretty much the same as Google translated, but the tiny pics with the forms are images, which obviously Google cannot translate. That transformation name is a bit less impressive than I expected but it describes it pretty well I guess.
Any clue on Super 17's? Is the the "Artificial Human Absorbed" thing?
Yep, his transformed state in both cases (Cell and C16) carries the description "Artificial Human Absorption (人造人間吸収 Jinzouningen Kyuushuu)"

Edit: Gibberish, only the C16 state does. The Cell-fused Super 17 doesn't have any special name for the transformation in the "state field" (so to speak), but rather his special ability is called "Perfect/Complete Evolution (完璧な進化 Kanpekina Shinka)" and lists Cell as his fusion-partner.
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Post by TheDevilsCorpse » Thu Sep 12, 2013 2:54 pm

All you have to do is look at Super 17's clothes to tell it's the Jinzoningen Absorption design, and I already noted Hatchihyack's form name when I posted the SECs up. =P

The character icons definitely note different forms for S17 though, not just "Jinzoningen Absorption":
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Jinzoningen (16) Absorption: Image
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Re: Dragon Ball Heroes

Post by DNA » Thu Sep 12, 2013 3:00 pm

Here's the new background:
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Sorry brah, didn't notice you had covered Hatchiyack's form name. As for Super 17, I just want to make sure what they're really naming him, and the characters on that .gif are neither Perfect Evolution nor Perfect Android (two descriptions given for the cards).

Perfect Evolution: 完璧な進化
Perfect Artificial Human: 完璧な人造人間
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Post by TheDevilsCorpse » Thu Sep 12, 2013 3:03 pm

DNA wrote:Perfect Evolution: 完璧な進化
Perfect Artificial Human: 完璧な人造人間
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I've said it before, it literally says Cell Absorption: "Seru Kyūshū / セル吸収". We've known this since last GM when it appeared on Gero's card.

Super 17: Normal / 超17号: 通常 Image
Super 17: Jinzōningen Absorption / 超17号: 人造人間吸収 Image
Super 17: Cell Absorption / 超17号: セル吸収 Image
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Re: Dragon Ball Heroes

Post by DNA » Thu Sep 12, 2013 3:23 pm

Oh, all right then, just wanted to make sure I know what's what.

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Re: Dragon Ball Heroes

Post by Kishido » Thu Sep 12, 2013 3:26 pm

Something I ask me about this game... We have so much cards of.characters who aren't existing but no SS4 Vegeta or Gogeta?

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Post by TheDevilsCorpse » Thu Sep 12, 2013 3:28 pm

Kishido wrote:Something I ask me about this game... We have so much cards of.characters who aren't existing but no SS4 Vegeta or Gogeta?
They haven't reached the Evil Dragons Arc yet (currently on Super 17 Arc and revisiting Plan to Eradicate the Saiyans), and Gogeta and Vegeta don't have the form till then.

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Re: Dragon Ball Heroes

Post by dbzfan7 » Thu Sep 12, 2013 3:56 pm

I really hate the Future SSJ Gohan flip up SSJ hair style. I much prefer his SSJ look in Raging Blast 2.
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Post by DNA » Thu Sep 12, 2013 4:10 pm

dbzfan7 wrote:I really hate the Future SSJ Gohan flip up SSJ hair style. I much prefer his SSJ look in Raging Blast 2.
That is how he looks though:
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Post by dbzfan7 » Fri Sep 13, 2013 1:49 am

DNA wrote:
dbzfan7 wrote:I really hate the Future SSJ Gohan flip up SSJ hair style. I much prefer his SSJ look in Raging Blast 2.
That is how he looks though:
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Your point? I can still dislike it. The Raging Blast 2 design was much better.
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Re: Dragon Ball Heroes

Post by DBZGTKOSDH » Fri Sep 13, 2013 5:24 am

There is a difference between the normal & Raging Blast?!
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Superman is, and always has been, a symbol for truth, justice, and upstanding moral fortitude–a role model and leader as much as a fighter. The more down-to-earth Goku has no illusions about being responsible for maintaining social order, or for setting some kind of moral example for the entire world. Goku is simply a martial artist who’s devoted his life toward perfecting his fighting skills and other abilities. Though never shy about risking his life to save either one person or the entire world, he just doesn’t believe that the balance of the world rests in any way on his shoulders, and he has no need to shape any part of it in his image. Goku is an idealist, and believes that there is some good in everyone, but he is unconcerned with the big picture of the world…unless it has to do with some kind of fight. Politics, society, law and order don’t have much bearing on his life, but he’s a man who knows right from wrong.

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Re: Dragon Ball Heroes

Post by DNA » Fri Sep 13, 2013 7:35 am

dbzfan7 wrote:Your point? I can still dislike it. The Raging Blast 2 design was much better.
I've checked them and I don't see any difference, so tell us what your point is?

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