The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by mysticboy » Thu Sep 12, 2013 5:41 pm

perucho1990 wrote:Abocado vs all versions of Cell in a Gaunlet match, how far can he go?
Super Perfect Cell.

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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

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perucho1990 wrote:Abocado vs all versions of Cell in a Gaunlet match, how far can he go?
Larval Cell. Loses to any other form and probably even Freeza.
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dbgtFO wrote: Please elaborate as I do not know what you mean by "pushing Vegeta's destruction"
He's probably referring to the Bardock special. Zarbon was the one who first recommended destroying Planet Vegeta because the saiyans were rapidly growing in strength.
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Herms wrote:The fact that the ridiculous power inflation is presented so earnestly makes me just roll my eyes and snicker. Like with Freeza, where he starts off over 10 times stronger than all his henchmen except Ginyu (because...well, just because), then we find out he can transform and get even more powerful, and then he reveals he can transform two more times, before finally coming out with the fact that he hasn't even been using anywhere near 50% of his power. Oh, and he can survive in the vacuum of space. All this stuff is just presented as the way Freeza is, without even an attempt at rationalizing it, yet the tone dictates we're supposed to take all this silly grasping at straws as thrilling danger. So I guess I don't really take the power inflation in the Boo arc seriously, but I don't take the power inflation in earlier arcs seriously either, so there's no net loss of seriousness. I think a silly story presented as serious is harder to accept than a silly story presented as silly.

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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by dbzfan7 » Thu Sep 12, 2013 7:34 pm

Abo and Cado or Aka.
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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by ZombieVito » Thu Sep 12, 2013 7:40 pm

perucho1990 wrote:Abocado vs all versions of Cell in a Gaunlet match, how far can he go?
Aka: Equal to MSSJ Goku.

Ava and Cado: 500,000 each.

SInce my was ignore, I'll ask again:

Rested MSSJ Goku vs Semi Cell FP.

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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by perucho1990 » Thu Sep 12, 2013 8:08 pm

dbzfan7 wrote:Abo and Cado or Aka.
The latter, when they are fused, I mean isnt Abocado the name when they are fused?

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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by dbzfan7 » Thu Sep 12, 2013 8:18 pm

perucho1990 wrote:
dbzfan7 wrote:Abo and Cado or Aka.
The latter, when they are fused, I mean isnt Abocado the name when they are fused?
I'm pretty sure the name is Aka.

To answer the question It kinda depends. SSJ Goku easily beat Aka so he may not be that strong. I'd Say he may he is below Perfect Cell and can possibly make it to Semi Perfect.
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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by Kamiccolo9 » Thu Sep 12, 2013 8:46 pm

SSJ Goku (Buu Arc) vs Full Power Perfect Cell
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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by RandomGuy96 » Thu Sep 12, 2013 8:47 pm

Kamiccolo9 wrote:SSJ Goku (Buu Arc) vs Full Power Perfect Cell
Basically a repeat of Cell vs Goku at the Cell Games.
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dbgtFO wrote: Please elaborate as I do not know what you mean by "pushing Vegeta's destruction"
He's probably referring to the Bardock special. Zarbon was the one who first recommended destroying Planet Vegeta because the saiyans were rapidly growing in strength.
It was actually Beerus disguised as Zarbon #StayWoke
Herms wrote:The fact that the ridiculous power inflation is presented so earnestly makes me just roll my eyes and snicker. Like with Freeza, where he starts off over 10 times stronger than all his henchmen except Ginyu (because...well, just because), then we find out he can transform and get even more powerful, and then he reveals he can transform two more times, before finally coming out with the fact that he hasn't even been using anywhere near 50% of his power. Oh, and he can survive in the vacuum of space. All this stuff is just presented as the way Freeza is, without even an attempt at rationalizing it, yet the tone dictates we're supposed to take all this silly grasping at straws as thrilling danger. So I guess I don't really take the power inflation in the Boo arc seriously, but I don't take the power inflation in earlier arcs seriously either, so there's no net loss of seriousness. I think a silly story presented as serious is harder to accept than a silly story presented as silly.

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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by dbzfan7 » Thu Sep 12, 2013 8:50 pm

RandomGuy96 wrote:
Kamiccolo9 wrote:SSJ Goku (Buu Arc) vs Full Power Perfect Cell
Basically a repeat of Cell vs Goku at the Cell Games.
Yeah Goku didn't increase enough to beat FP Cell with SSJ
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Post by TheGmGoken » Thu Sep 12, 2013 8:55 pm

Kamiccolo9 wrote:SSJ Goku (Buu Arc) vs Full Power Perfect Cell
Pretty much the same results. Goku might hit slightly harder.

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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by Kid Buu » Thu Sep 12, 2013 9:07 pm

SSJ2 Gohan (Cell Games) vs Dabura

NOTE: Just for the sake of the arguement, let's just all pretend here "Gohan was SSj2 against Dabura" was 100% undisputed fact.
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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by dbzfan7 » Thu Sep 12, 2013 9:18 pm

Kid Buu wrote:SSJ2 Gohan (Cell Games) vs Dabura

NOTE: Just for the sake of the arguement, let's just all pretend here "Gohan was SSj2 against Dabura" was 100% undisputed fact.
Gohan wins.
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Post by TheGmGoken » Thu Sep 12, 2013 9:30 pm

Kid Buu wrote:SSJ2 Gohan (Cell Games) vs Dabura

NOTE: Just for the sake of the arguement, let's just all pretend here "Gohan was SSj2 against Dabura" was 100% undisputed fact.
Gohan wins. Hell Gohan(Teen) could of beaten Dabura had he had his skills(Keeping the fact he lost power).

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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by Kaboom » Fri Sep 13, 2013 12:58 am

Kid Buu wrote:SSJ2 Gohan (Cell Games) vs Dabura
NOTE: Just for the sake of the argument, let's just all pretend here "Gohan was SSj2 against Dabura" was 100% undisputed fact.
No need. Because even though Super Saiyan 1 Gohan was having a hard time with Dabra, it was only because he was so out of practice in combat. Otherwise, he actually had a power advantage. So Cell Games Super Saiyan Gohan would have an even bigger power advantage, and a MUCH bigger one at Super Saiyan 2, but in addition to that his skills are also still sharp as ever. So Dabra goes down easily any way you slice it.
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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by RandomGuy96 » Fri Sep 13, 2013 1:27 am

Kid Buu wrote:SSJ2 Gohan (Cell Games) vs Dabura

NOTE: Just for the sake of the arguement, let's just all pretend here "Gohan was SSj2 against Dabura" was 100% undisputed fact.
I'm just going to go ahead and assume you mean the same one that was beating up Perfect Cell. In that case, it goes exactly the same way, with Dabra taking Cell's place.

If he somehow becomes a SS2 without a rage boost, Gohan and Dabra have an even fight, with Gohan having a slight power advantage and Dabra keeping up with his magic. It probably ends in Dabra winning.
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dbgtFO wrote: Please elaborate as I do not know what you mean by "pushing Vegeta's destruction"
He's probably referring to the Bardock special. Zarbon was the one who first recommended destroying Planet Vegeta because the saiyans were rapidly growing in strength.
It was actually Beerus disguised as Zarbon #StayWoke
Herms wrote:The fact that the ridiculous power inflation is presented so earnestly makes me just roll my eyes and snicker. Like with Freeza, where he starts off over 10 times stronger than all his henchmen except Ginyu (because...well, just because), then we find out he can transform and get even more powerful, and then he reveals he can transform two more times, before finally coming out with the fact that he hasn't even been using anywhere near 50% of his power. Oh, and he can survive in the vacuum of space. All this stuff is just presented as the way Freeza is, without even an attempt at rationalizing it, yet the tone dictates we're supposed to take all this silly grasping at straws as thrilling danger. So I guess I don't really take the power inflation in the Boo arc seriously, but I don't take the power inflation in earlier arcs seriously either, so there's no net loss of seriousness. I think a silly story presented as serious is harder to accept than a silly story presented as silly.

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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by Rocketman » Fri Sep 13, 2013 1:29 am

I'd be willing to give Dabura a chance if Gohan was at SS1, but at SS2? No way, Gohan takes it.

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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by Kid Buu » Fri Sep 13, 2013 3:13 am

Wait, I actually meant to say Cell Games SSJ1 Gohan. Accidentally went and did SSJ2 >_<
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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by Kaboom » Fri Sep 13, 2013 3:35 am

Kid Buu wrote:Wait, I actually meant to say Cell Games SSJ1 Gohan. Accidentally went and did SSJ2 >_<
Well, then, my answer doesn't change much, and things make a lot more sense. Everyone wins! Except Dabra. He still gets his ass kicked.
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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by RandomGuy96 » Fri Sep 13, 2013 10:29 am

Kid Buu wrote:Wait, I actually meant to say Cell Games SSJ1 Gohan. Accidentally went and did SSJ2 >_<
Then Dabra easily erases him with a single punch.
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dbgtFO wrote: Please elaborate as I do not know what you mean by "pushing Vegeta's destruction"
He's probably referring to the Bardock special. Zarbon was the one who first recommended destroying Planet Vegeta because the saiyans were rapidly growing in strength.
It was actually Beerus disguised as Zarbon #StayWoke
Herms wrote:The fact that the ridiculous power inflation is presented so earnestly makes me just roll my eyes and snicker. Like with Freeza, where he starts off over 10 times stronger than all his henchmen except Ginyu (because...well, just because), then we find out he can transform and get even more powerful, and then he reveals he can transform two more times, before finally coming out with the fact that he hasn't even been using anywhere near 50% of his power. Oh, and he can survive in the vacuum of space. All this stuff is just presented as the way Freeza is, without even an attempt at rationalizing it, yet the tone dictates we're supposed to take all this silly grasping at straws as thrilling danger. So I guess I don't really take the power inflation in the Boo arc seriously, but I don't take the power inflation in earlier arcs seriously either, so there's no net loss of seriousness. I think a silly story presented as serious is harder to accept than a silly story presented as silly.

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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by PerfectFreeza » Fri Sep 13, 2013 2:57 pm

How would Dabra vs. Super Hatchiyack go?
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