Saiga wrote:It IS contradictory. That has never been shown to be possible before, and there's too much evidence otherwise. We've seen plenty of cases where someone has gotten anrgy, pushed themself, and seen no increase in ability.
It's just that no one pushed himself so far like Vegeta did here. We just saw something new, like Super Saiyan God.
penguintruth wrote:There's no way he could have gotten a power up high enough to push him to SSJ. No. Way.
And why is that? Goku got a x33 increase in Freeza arc, Bardock only needs a x9 increase at most for him to be able to turn Super Saiyan.
penguintruth wrote:And knowing the average troglodyte DBZ fan, "Vegeta is officially more powerful than Goku now!" will ring out from every corner of the fandom and I will die a little more inside from having heard it.
But Vegeta
isn't stronger, he
was stronger. He only surpassed him for a few seconds because it was a special occasion. Goku is still stronger in the end.
Baggie_Saiyan wrote:So, Goku was using 80% and Bills was using 70%, does that mean Bills is 10% stronger then Goku?
No, Goku used his full power after that, which means that Beers is 30% stronger.
James Teal (Animerica 1996) wrote:When you think about it, there are a number of similarities between the Chinese-inspired Son Goku and that most American of superhero icons, Superman. Both are aliens sent to Earth shortly after birth to escape the destruction of their homeworlds; both possess super-strength, flight, super-speed, heightened senses and the ability to cast energy blasts. But the crucial difference between them lies not only in how they view the world, but in how the world views them.
Superman is, and always has been, a symbol for truth, justice, and upstanding moral fortitude–a role model and leader as much as a fighter. The more down-to-earth Goku has no illusions about being responsible for maintaining social order, or for setting some kind of moral example for the entire world. Goku is simply a martial artist who’s devoted his life toward perfecting his fighting skills and other abilities. Though never shy about risking his life to save either one person or the entire world, he just doesn’t believe that the balance of the world rests in any way on his shoulders, and he has no need to shape any part of it in his image. Goku is an idealist, and believes that there is some good in everyone, but he is unconcerned with the big picture of the world…unless it has to do with some kind of fight. Politics, society, law and order don’t have much bearing on his life, but he’s a man who knows right from wrong.
