The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by TheMightyOzaru » Fri Sep 13, 2013 10:36 pm

Super Hatchiyak would stomp Cell, he'd clearly stomp Dabura.
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Post by KentalSSJ6 » Fri Sep 13, 2013 11:00 pm

Hmmm, I'm gonna keep a open mind on this but Goten or Trunks vs Freeza. No fusion, SSJ and 100% Final Form available.
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Post by Kid Buu » Fri Sep 13, 2013 11:01 pm

KentalSSJ6 wrote:Hmmm, I'm gonna keep a open mind on this but Goten or Trunks vs Freeza. No fusion, SSJ and 100% Final Form available.
I'd say Freeza since he has shown skill in battle before. Goten is just an idiot and Trunks only real accomplishment is beating Goten anyway.
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Post by TheMightyOzaru » Fri Sep 13, 2013 11:04 pm

So this is base Goten or Trunks vs *insert percent of power here* Freeza? I think either of them cap at roughly 20% of Freeza's full power.
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Post by mysticboy » Fri Sep 13, 2013 11:05 pm

KentalSSJ6 wrote:Hmmm, I'm gonna keep a open mind on this but Goten or Trunks vs Freeza. No fusion, SSJ and 100% Final Form available.
What arc are Goten and Trunks here? If it's the Buu arc, they both lose. If it's at the end of Z, one of them will be enough.

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Post by dbzfan7 » Fri Sep 13, 2013 11:14 pm

KentalSSJ6 wrote:Hmmm, I'm gonna keep a open mind on this but Goten or Trunks vs Freeza. No fusion, SSJ and 100% Final Form available.
If they have SSJ either one stomps Freeza badly. Without it they lose.
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Post by KentalSSJ6 » Fri Sep 13, 2013 11:19 pm

Hmm, well do a side by side comparison. Use either the first time we see them SSJ and after their time in the Time Chamber. I know their teen incarnations from EoZ would be enough, this is their kid incarnations.
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Post by dbzfan7 » Fri Sep 13, 2013 11:28 pm

Either way the SSJ kids stomp hard.
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Post by TheMightyOzaru » Fri Sep 13, 2013 11:40 pm

SSJ Goten and Trunks are stronger than C-18 and could probably even give Piccolo trouble. Freeza doesn't stand a chance in hell against them.
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Post by dbzfan7 » Fri Sep 13, 2013 11:42 pm

Piccolo vs Paikuhan (equal power levels) No Burning shot.
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Post by goku the krump dancer » Fri Sep 13, 2013 11:45 pm

In the Original PtEtS Goku said that Hatchiyack was x10 stronger than Broly... Movie 8, regular Perfect Cel and Dabura are all around the same level.

So if base Hatchiyack is already x10 stronger than Dabura then Super Hatchiyack would snap his neck the same way Kratos snapped Hera's.

Also I'd wager that Freeza might stand a chance against Goten or Trunks at the end of Z because of how rusty they are.

Heck by the time Yo Son Goku and his Friends return rolls around the kids already start to forget the basics and even fudge up the fusion and thats just 2 years post Boo arc.

At the rate they were going a few days of training with their respective fathers would be no where near enough to bring them up to speed, so Freeza could take it.
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Post by dbzfan7 » Fri Sep 13, 2013 11:48 pm

goku the krump dancer wrote:In the Original PtEtS Goku said that Hatchiyack was x10 stronger than Broly... Movie 8, regular Perfect Cel and Dabura are all around the same level.

So if base Hatchiyack is already x10 stronger than Dabura then Super Hatchiyack would snap his neck the same way Kratos snapped Hera's.
That was never said, and I just checked the original. Goku only said he might be stronger than Broly (which would probably mean he is). Super Hatchiyack has no specific placement so who really knows about that form.
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Post by goku the krump dancer » Fri Sep 13, 2013 11:58 pm

dbzfan7 wrote:
goku the krump dancer wrote:In the Original PtEtS Goku said that Hatchiyack was x10 stronger than Broly... Movie 8, regular Perfect Cel and Dabura are all around the same level.

So if base Hatchiyack is already x10 stronger than Dabura then Super Hatchiyack would snap his neck the same way Kratos snapped Hera's.
That was never said, and I just checked the original. Goku only said he might be stronger than Broly (which would probably mean he is). Super Hatchiyack has no specific placement so who really knows about that form.
Ah okay.. i was going off the old tape i saw over a decade ago.. but still even if they (Perfect Cell, Movie 8 Broly,Dabra and Hatchiyack) were equals Hatchiyack's "Super" form is grater than his regular form so he still beats the Demon King.
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Post by TheMightyOzaru » Sat Sep 14, 2013 12:15 am

dbzfan7 wrote:Piccolo vs Paikuhan (equal power levels) No Burning shot.
Piccolo can regenerate and has stretchy arms, so he has the edge there. The question is, does Paikuhan's skill and seemingly excellent speed make up for that? I would say yes so I'm giving this to Paikuhan, even though I want Piccolo to win.
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Post by ZombieVito » Sun Sep 15, 2013 1:19 am

Gotenks (Pre) vs East Kaioshin.

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Post by KentalSSJ6 » Sun Sep 15, 2013 1:50 am

Zombie wrote:Gotenks (Pre) vs East Kaioshin.
Depends if you take that Kaioshin are 1000 times stronger than Freeza statement seriously. If not, Gotenks stomps with relative ease.
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Post by RandomGuy96 » Sun Sep 15, 2013 3:12 am

Zombie wrote:Gotenks (Pre) vs East Kaioshin.
Base, I presume? Anyway, Gotenks stomps due to weird Super Saiyan multipliers. Going by normal SS multipliers, East Kaioshin one-shots.
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Post by TheMightyOzaru » Sun Sep 15, 2013 11:31 am

Zombie wrote:Gotenks (Pre) vs East Kaioshin.
base? If so East Kaioshin creams the poor guy. If he's allowed SSJ, then he one shots Kaioshin.
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Post by TheGmGoken » Sun Sep 15, 2013 11:33 am

Super Boo(Whis and Birsu Absorbed) vs EVERYONE in DB history. Counting DBGT but no SSJ4 Gogeta. Everyone is at their strongest(GT GOKU). Super Vegetto is thee to help out. Hell even Dragonball Goku is here. Just everyone in the HISTORY of DB.

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Post by TheMightyOzaru » Sun Sep 15, 2013 12:25 pm

Super Yi Xing Long might win, but GT is so full of gags and inconsistencies when it comes to power scaling that it's hard to decide. Oh, SSJ3 Vegetto would win. This is where I would have the 2:
SSJ3 Vegetto: 25,600,000,000,000
Evil Buu(Whis and Beers Absorbed): 19,072,000,000,000
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