Official On-Going DBZ 2013 Movie Thread: "Battle of Gods"

Discussion regarding the entirety of the franchise in a general (meta) sense, including such aspects as: production, trends, merchandise, fan culture, and more.

Moderators: Kanzenshuu Staff, General Help

User avatar
bleed0range
OMG CRAZY REGEN
Posts: 893
Joined: Wed Apr 11, 2012 7:38 pm

Re: Official On-Going DBZ 2013 Movie Thread: "Battle of Gods

Post by bleed0range » Mon Sep 16, 2013 2:41 pm

Lines I have to add in my head/scenes I have to change, to help my viewing experience of Battle of Gods haha... nitpicky stuff, it's just how I'd prefer it to have played out. If they dub it maybe theyyy shoulllld insert a few of these in the dub haha.

King Kai (as Goku and Bills begin their fight):
King Kai: "You just wished back my planet so try not to destroy it. Again!"

Gohan (before turning SSJ to help create the SSJ God):
Goku: "But Gohan? Aren't you unable to go SSJ anymore?"
Gohan: "Well, we'll never know unless I try!"
*goes ssj*
Gohan: "Ha I guess so!"
Goku: (laughs)

Bulma & Vegeta, during SSJ God "ritual":
Bulma: "Don't you have a little brother?"
Vegeta: "He's very far away!"
Goku: "It's okay! I got it guys! ... (runs off to the side and puts the fingers to his forehead to use instant transmission)
(teleports out)
(immediately returns in same spot)
Goku: "I got him!"
Tarble: "Wh-what's going on again?!"
Vegeta: "No time to explain!"
(do ritual)
Tarble: "Whoa.. Wh-what just happened?"
(everyone continues to ignore tarble lol)

End of the movie:
Goku: "It's a good thing we were able to get your brother Vegeta! Otherwise I wouldn't have been able to attain SSJ God! He was the only other saiyan!"
Videl: "Well, actually, there WAS one other saiyan."
*Everyone looks confused*
Videl: "I wanted to wait and surprise you Gohan but..."
(scene is the same pretty much from here on out as in movie)

User avatar
KaiserNeko
I'm, pretty, cozy, here...
Posts: 1953
Joined: Sun Nov 05, 2006 7:37 pm
Location: Dallas, TX United States

Re: Official On-Going DBZ 2013 Movie Thread: "Battle of Gods

Post by KaiserNeko » Mon Sep 16, 2013 3:11 pm

But... I positively -adored- the whole plot point with Pan aiding in the transformation. It was unique, it was surprising, and it's a great setup to Videl telling Gohan she's pregnant.

Seriously, I think it's one of the best plot points in the movie!
Check out TeamFourStar's DragonBall Z Abridged:
http://teamfourstar.com/

User avatar
dbzfan7
Namekian Warrior
Posts: 13045
Joined: Sat Aug 04, 2012 3:55 am
Location: Earth
Contact:

Re: Official On-Going DBZ 2013 Movie Thread: "Battle of Gods

Post by dbzfan7 » Mon Sep 16, 2013 3:12 pm

KaiserNeko wrote:But... I positively -adored- the whole plot point with Pan aiding in the transformation. It was unique, it was surprising, and it's a great setup to Videl telling Gohan she's pregnant.

Seriously, I think it's one of the best plot points in the movie!
Would have been better if we got Super Saiyan God Fetus.
Why Dragon Ball Consistency in something such as power levels matter!

User avatar
TheMightyOzaru
Banned
Posts: 6255
Joined: Wed Mar 07, 2012 6:50 pm
Location: Capsule Corp

Re: Official On-Going DBZ 2013 Movie Thread: "Battle of Gods

Post by TheMightyOzaru » Mon Sep 16, 2013 3:30 pm

The only problem with that plot point is that Pan should be a Ssj, which is ridiculous since she's a fetus.
Vegeta: "Funny... I seem to recall Kakarot being fed the same information right before he transformed; the distinct look on your faces when he went Super Saiyan didn't exactly inspire confidence. One does not predict or calculate power like ours."
Youtube channel:
http://www.youtube.com/user/ThePrinceOfSaiyajins
My 3DS Friend Code:
2707-1669-7946

User avatar
dbzfan7
Namekian Warrior
Posts: 13045
Joined: Sat Aug 04, 2012 3:55 am
Location: Earth
Contact:

Re: Official On-Going DBZ 2013 Movie Thread: "Battle of Gods

Post by dbzfan7 » Mon Sep 16, 2013 3:31 pm

TheMightyOzaru wrote:The only problem with that plot point is that Pan should be a Ssj, which is ridiculous since she's a fetus.
Why does she need to be an SSJ. None of the past Saiyans were SSJ when SSJ God was born.
Why Dragon Ball Consistency in something such as power levels matter!

User avatar
QuantumDestiny
Beyond-the-Beyond Newbie
Posts: 412
Joined: Thu Jun 08, 2006 9:10 pm
Location: Ontario, Canada
Contact:

Re: Official On-Going DBZ 2013 Movie Thread: "Battle of Gods

Post by QuantumDestiny » Mon Sep 16, 2013 3:32 pm

I LOVED THIS MOVIE.

Only thing is, I got the impression that the 'other Saiyan' in Videl's womb wasn't Pan.

I'm still trying to reconcile the ages here. I'm totally lost, I need help doing these calcs, and I have no idea what source to go by OTL. As a timeline guide I've always used The Dragonball wiki timeline: http://dragonball.wikia.com/wiki/Dragon_Ball_Timeline

So first of all I was shocked that Goten and Trunks still looked to be about 7 & 8 like just after the Buu Saga. Going by the timeline, Pan was born in year 779 when Goten and Trunks were around 12 & 13. In my opinion they don't LOOK 12 & 13, but then again, if child Goku was supposed to be 12 and young Krillin was 13, then I guess it can be said that Goten and Trunks are 12 & 13 in this movie. (Although, apparently Future Trunks in History of Trunks is 14 when we first see him training with Future Gohan, so WOW Dragon World puberty makes a change in 1 year o_o)

Anyway, I suppose I can conceivably (lol) understand why Trunks/Goten look the way they do with Pan on the way.

However, then we get to the reference to Mai's age being 41. So according to the wiki Mai was born in year 730. And according to Pan being born in 779, then Mai should actually be 49 (or 48)?

I supposed Mai's birth date and age could be ignored as a proper scale of time because she is a minor character.

But then we find out it's Bulma's 38th birthday. But if Bulma was born in age 733, and Trunks was born in age 766, then Bulma would have been 33 when she had Trunks... If she is celebrating her 38th birthday, then Trunks is only 5 in this movie! (what!?)

So I calculated, if this is the year of Pan's birth (779), and Bulma was born in 733, then Bulma must actually be celebrating her 46th (or 45th) birthday.

My first thought was - Bulma's lying about her age. But then there is the discrepancy with Mai's age as well. Did they both forget/lie about their ages, or is the timeline wrong somehow? (Bulma and Mai being born later on than year 730 and year 733)

If Goku was born in year 737, then he is 42 at the time of Pan's birth. That would make Bulma and Mai younger than Goku!?

So, not sure where I was going with this... but I think those ages were a total mix up. For a while I was entertained that the Saiyan in Videl's womb wasn't Pan. There could have been much drama.

User avatar
TheMightyOzaru
Banned
Posts: 6255
Joined: Wed Mar 07, 2012 6:50 pm
Location: Capsule Corp

Re: Official On-Going DBZ 2013 Movie Thread: "Battle of Gods

Post by TheMightyOzaru » Mon Sep 16, 2013 3:35 pm

dbzfan7 wrote:
TheMightyOzaru wrote:The only problem with that plot point is that Pan should be a Ssj, which is ridiculous since she's a fetus.
Why does she need to be an SSJ. None of the past Saiyans were SSJ when SSJ God was born.
Then why does Gohan have to be a Ssj?
Vegeta: "Funny... I seem to recall Kakarot being fed the same information right before he transformed; the distinct look on your faces when he went Super Saiyan didn't exactly inspire confidence. One does not predict or calculate power like ours."
Youtube channel:
http://www.youtube.com/user/ThePrinceOfSaiyajins
My 3DS Friend Code:
2707-1669-7946

User avatar
KaiserNeko
I'm, pretty, cozy, here...
Posts: 1953
Joined: Sun Nov 05, 2006 7:37 pm
Location: Dallas, TX United States

Re: Official On-Going DBZ 2013 Movie Thread: "Battle of Gods

Post by KaiserNeko » Mon Sep 16, 2013 3:36 pm

dbzfan7 wrote:
TheMightyOzaru wrote:The only problem with that plot point is that Pan should be a Ssj, which is ridiculous since she's a fetus.
Why does she need to be an SSJ. None of the past Saiyans were SSJ when SSJ God was born.
Actually, he's got a point here. It's not explicitly said; they just go SSJ because the director thought it would look cooler. Really, they should have just kept them in base form, thus avoiding the whole debate about Gohan.
Check out TeamFourStar's DragonBall Z Abridged:
http://teamfourstar.com/

User avatar
dbzfan7
Namekian Warrior
Posts: 13045
Joined: Sat Aug 04, 2012 3:55 am
Location: Earth
Contact:

Re: Official On-Going DBZ 2013 Movie Thread: "Battle of Gods

Post by dbzfan7 » Mon Sep 16, 2013 3:38 pm

TheMightyOzaru wrote:
dbzfan7 wrote:
TheMightyOzaru wrote:The only problem with that plot point is that Pan should be a Ssj, which is ridiculous since she's a fetus.
Why does she need to be an SSJ. None of the past Saiyans were SSJ when SSJ God was born.
Then why does Gohan have to be a Ssj?
Because SSJ looks cooler. Also more likely because they didn't change Gohan as he was meant to be an SSJ the whole time in the movie which would explain why Gotenks doesn't go SSJ3.
Why Dragon Ball Consistency in something such as power levels matter!

User avatar
TheMightyOzaru
Banned
Posts: 6255
Joined: Wed Mar 07, 2012 6:50 pm
Location: Capsule Corp

Re: Official On-Going DBZ 2013 Movie Thread: "Battle of Gods

Post by TheMightyOzaru » Mon Sep 16, 2013 3:41 pm

dbzfan7 wrote:Because SSJ looks cooler. Also more likely because they didn't change Gohan as he was meant to be an SSJ the whole time in the movie which would explain why Gotenks doesn't go SSJ3.
They really should have fixed that :x . Other than Gohan's inconsistency, the movie is incredible.
Vegeta: "Funny... I seem to recall Kakarot being fed the same information right before he transformed; the distinct look on your faces when he went Super Saiyan didn't exactly inspire confidence. One does not predict or calculate power like ours."
Youtube channel:
http://www.youtube.com/user/ThePrinceOfSaiyajins
My 3DS Friend Code:
2707-1669-7946

User avatar
dbzfan7
Namekian Warrior
Posts: 13045
Joined: Sat Aug 04, 2012 3:55 am
Location: Earth
Contact:

Re: Official On-Going DBZ 2013 Movie Thread: "Battle of Gods

Post by dbzfan7 » Mon Sep 16, 2013 3:45 pm

TheMightyOzaru wrote:
dbzfan7 wrote:Because SSJ looks cooler. Also more likely because they didn't change Gohan as he was meant to be an SSJ the whole time in the movie which would explain why Gotenks doesn't go SSJ3.
They really should have fixed that :x . Other than Gohan's inconsistency, the movie is incredible.
I'm a big power level enthusiast, but after spending time on the dream 9 thread I learned to just put it behind me or else I'll just get all negative on those problems instead of enjoying the movie itself. Which I did for the most part.
Why Dragon Ball Consistency in something such as power levels matter!

Koga316
Newbie
Posts: 24
Joined: Tue Jun 22, 2010 10:46 pm

Re: Official On-Going DBZ 2013 Movie Thread: "Battle of Gods

Post by Koga316 » Mon Sep 16, 2013 4:14 pm

Am I the only one who found it hilarious that the world almost got destroyed.......over pudding? :lol:

User avatar
DBZGTKOSDH
Namekian Warrior
Posts: 12401
Joined: Sat Jul 02, 2011 7:45 pm
Location: Greece

Re: Official On-Going DBZ 2013 Movie Thread: "Battle of Gods

Post by DBZGTKOSDH » Mon Sep 16, 2013 4:17 pm

TheMightyOzaru wrote:
dbzfan7 wrote:
TheMightyOzaru wrote:The only problem with that plot point is that Pan should be a Ssj, which is ridiculous since she's a fetus.
Why does she need to be an SSJ. None of the past Saiyans were SSJ when SSJ God was born.
Then why does Gohan have to be a Ssj?
IMO, because base & Super Saiyan (Full Power) are the only forms that don't affect the personality of the Saiyans. Super Saiyan 2, Super Saiyan 3, and Ultimate make the Saiyans more malicious, and Super Saiyan God requires righteous Saiyans. So, they all chose Super Saiyan because it's their strongest & most pure state. (The manga hints that Vegeta, Goten, and Trunks (both future & present) mastered Super Saiyan so I go by that.) Super Saiyan wasn't a requirement.
Last edited by DBZGTKOSDH on Mon Sep 16, 2013 4:30 pm, edited 1 time in total.
James Teal (Animerica 1996) wrote:When you think about it, there are a number of similarities between the Chinese-inspired Son Goku and that most American of superhero icons, Superman. Both are aliens sent to Earth shortly after birth to escape the destruction of their homeworlds; both possess super-strength, flight, super-speed, heightened senses and the ability to cast energy blasts. But the crucial difference between them lies not only in how they view the world, but in how the world views them.

Superman is, and always has been, a symbol for truth, justice, and upstanding moral fortitude–a role model and leader as much as a fighter. The more down-to-earth Goku has no illusions about being responsible for maintaining social order, or for setting some kind of moral example for the entire world. Goku is simply a martial artist who’s devoted his life toward perfecting his fighting skills and other abilities. Though never shy about risking his life to save either one person or the entire world, he just doesn’t believe that the balance of the world rests in any way on his shoulders, and he has no need to shape any part of it in his image. Goku is an idealist, and believes that there is some good in everyone, but he is unconcerned with the big picture of the world…unless it has to do with some kind of fight. Politics, society, law and order don’t have much bearing on his life, but he’s a man who knows right from wrong.

User avatar
JeffJarrett
OMG CRAZY REGEN
Posts: 964
Joined: Sat Mar 17, 2012 2:09 pm

Re: Official On-Going DBZ 2013 Movie Thread: "Battle of Gods

Post by JeffJarrett » Mon Sep 16, 2013 4:28 pm

DBZGTKOSDH wrote:Because base & Super Saiyan (Full Power) are the only forms that don't affect the personality of the Saiyans. Super Saiyan 2, Super Saiyan 3, and Ultimate make the Saiyans more malicious, and Super Saiyan God requires righteous Saiyans. So, they all chose Super Saiyan because it's their strongest & most pure state. (The manga hints that Vegeta, Goten, and Trunks (both future & present) mastered Super Saiyan so I go by that.) Super Saiyan wasn't a requirement.
Where did you got this?! Any source??

User avatar
DBZGTKOSDH
Namekian Warrior
Posts: 12401
Joined: Sat Jul 02, 2011 7:45 pm
Location: Greece

Re: Official On-Going DBZ 2013 Movie Thread: "Battle of Gods

Post by DBZGTKOSDH » Mon Sep 16, 2013 4:29 pm

JeffJarrett wrote:
DBZGTKOSDH wrote:Because base & Super Saiyan (Full Power) are the only forms that don't affect the personality of the Saiyans. Super Saiyan 2, Super Saiyan 3, and Ultimate make the Saiyans more malicious, and Super Saiyan God requires righteous Saiyans. So, they all chose Super Saiyan because it's their strongest & most pure state. (The manga hints that Vegeta, Goten, and Trunks (both future & present) mastered Super Saiyan so I go by that.) Super Saiyan wasn't a requirement.
Where did you got this?! Any source??
Fuck, I forgot to add IMO. :P (though Super Saiyan 2, Super Saiyan 3, and Ultimate do make the Saiyans more malicious.) But it fits with what are told.
James Teal (Animerica 1996) wrote:When you think about it, there are a number of similarities between the Chinese-inspired Son Goku and that most American of superhero icons, Superman. Both are aliens sent to Earth shortly after birth to escape the destruction of their homeworlds; both possess super-strength, flight, super-speed, heightened senses and the ability to cast energy blasts. But the crucial difference between them lies not only in how they view the world, but in how the world views them.

Superman is, and always has been, a symbol for truth, justice, and upstanding moral fortitude–a role model and leader as much as a fighter. The more down-to-earth Goku has no illusions about being responsible for maintaining social order, or for setting some kind of moral example for the entire world. Goku is simply a martial artist who’s devoted his life toward perfecting his fighting skills and other abilities. Though never shy about risking his life to save either one person or the entire world, he just doesn’t believe that the balance of the world rests in any way on his shoulders, and he has no need to shape any part of it in his image. Goku is an idealist, and believes that there is some good in everyone, but he is unconcerned with the big picture of the world…unless it has to do with some kind of fight. Politics, society, law and order don’t have much bearing on his life, but he’s a man who knows right from wrong.

GS7X7
Advanced Regular
Posts: 1109
Joined: Wed Oct 31, 2007 10:03 pm

Re: Official On-Going DBZ 2013 Movie Thread: "Battle of Gods

Post by GS7X7 » Mon Sep 16, 2013 7:06 pm

Did Yamcha and Chaotsu do anything in the movie? I know Tenshin got his ass kicked but at least he took his ass-kicking like a man.
Sean Schemmel is THE MAN! :)

Me- "Also, before anyone mentions it, Schemmel's interview was from nearly 15 years ago. He paid a brief visit to Kanzenshuu's forums a few years back and earned legendary respect that cancels out anything he said from that long ago. :D"

User avatar
JulieYBM
Patreon Supporter
Posts: 17624
Joined: Mon Jan 16, 2006 10:25 pm
Location: 🏳️‍⚧️🍉

Re: Official On-Going DBZ 2013 Movie Thread: "Battle of Gods

Post by JulieYBM » Mon Sep 16, 2013 7:09 pm

Here's an awesome gif of Shida Naotoshi's cuts in Battle of Gods!

GS7X7 wrote:Did Yamcha and Chaotsu do anything in the movie? I know Tenshin got his ass kicked but at least he took his ass-kicking like a man.
Yamcha recognized that Suushinchuu was missing.
💙💜💖💙💜💖💙💜💖💙💜💖 She/Her 💙💜💖💙💜💖💙💜💖💙💜💖
💙💜💖💙💜💖💙💜💖💙💜💖 Don't forget to take your estrogen! 💙💜💖💙

User avatar
TheWhiz
Beyond Newbie
Posts: 108
Joined: Fri Mar 08, 2013 9:43 pm
Contact:

Re: Official On-Going DBZ 2013 Movie Thread: "Battle of Gods

Post by TheWhiz » Mon Sep 16, 2013 7:19 pm

GS7X7 wrote:Did Yamcha and Chaotsu do anything in the movie? I know Tenshin got his ass kicked but at least he took his ass-kicking like a man.
No, they did absolutely nothing.

GS7X7
Advanced Regular
Posts: 1109
Joined: Wed Oct 31, 2007 10:03 pm

Re: Official On-Going DBZ 2013 Movie Thread: "Battle of Gods

Post by GS7X7 » Mon Sep 16, 2013 7:26 pm

JulieYBM wrote:Here's an awesome gif of Shida Naotoshi's cuts in Battle of Gods!

GS7X7 wrote:Did Yamcha and Chaotsu do anything in the movie? I know Tenshin got his ass kicked but at least he took his ass-kicking like a man.
Yamcha recognized that Suushinchuu was missing.
Hurray! Yamcha did something useful! :D
Sean Schemmel is THE MAN! :)

Me- "Also, before anyone mentions it, Schemmel's interview was from nearly 15 years ago. He paid a brief visit to Kanzenshuu's forums a few years back and earned legendary respect that cancels out anything he said from that long ago. :D"

User avatar
penguintruth
Banned
Posts: 4861
Joined: Wed Sep 02, 2009 5:49 pm

Re: Official On-Going DBZ 2013 Movie Thread: "Battle of Gods

Post by penguintruth » Mon Sep 16, 2013 8:12 pm

Remember, kids, Saiyanhood begins at conception!
Kentai wrote:Son Gokuu is a fascinating character anyway, because he is - at face value, anyway - an idiot savant. The victim of violent head trauma as an infant [...] he's a simple bumpkin with a fair share of brain damage who's natural talents to work out what's wrong compensate for his broad lack of common sense. But he's also a fighter, through and through [...] he fight until he has, in no uncertain terms, beaten his enemy on terms they can both acknowledge. He doesn't want to kill anyone, or even prove that he can win... he just wants to know he can. He's an ineffably charming bastard who's manly leanings were really incendental, and yes, the fact that he was voiced by a squeaky woman made the combination perhaps all the more charming.


Dragon Ball (Z) Kai Reviews!

Can I get a Schemen?

Post Reply