Official On-Going DBZ 2013 Movie Thread: "Battle of Gods"

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Re: Official On-Going DBZ 2013 Movie Thread: "Battle of Gods

Post by DBZGTKOSDH » Tue Sep 17, 2013 6:57 am

Aoi wrote:Hi guys. Could anyone explain to me how Goku managed to revive himself when he presumably dies at the end? Is that supposed to be left to interpretation?
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Superman is, and always has been, a symbol for truth, justice, and upstanding moral fortitude–a role model and leader as much as a fighter. The more down-to-earth Goku has no illusions about being responsible for maintaining social order, or for setting some kind of moral example for the entire world. Goku is simply a martial artist who’s devoted his life toward perfecting his fighting skills and other abilities. Though never shy about risking his life to save either one person or the entire world, he just doesn’t believe that the balance of the world rests in any way on his shoulders, and he has no need to shape any part of it in his image. Goku is an idealist, and believes that there is some good in everyone, but he is unconcerned with the big picture of the world…unless it has to do with some kind of fight. Politics, society, law and order don’t have much bearing on his life, but he’s a man who knows right from wrong.

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Re: Official On-Going DBZ 2013 Movie Thread: "Battle of Gods

Post by Gonstead » Tue Sep 17, 2013 7:40 am

Aoi wrote:Hi guys. Could anyone explain to me how Goku managed to revive himself when he presumably dies at the end? Is that supposed to be left to interpretation?
I get the feeling you were meant to be talking about GT but forgot to make it into the actual topic...
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Re: Official On-Going DBZ 2013 Movie Thread: "Battle of Gods

Post by Aoi » Tue Sep 17, 2013 10:09 am

Well I meant when he was about to die vs. Bills during his final attack. Goku's eyes go black and he lets out an eccoing scream as he falls backwards motionless. Suddenly, he gets hit witb blu ki and he's back at it. I was wondering: what happened?

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Post by DBZGTKOSDH » Tue Sep 17, 2013 10:13 am

He almost lost consciousness, but then after remembering that his friends were on his side, he transformed into a Super Saiyan God, he entered inside Beers' ki blast and absorbed/nullified/who-knows-what-he-did the attack.
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Superman is, and always has been, a symbol for truth, justice, and upstanding moral fortitude–a role model and leader as much as a fighter. The more down-to-earth Goku has no illusions about being responsible for maintaining social order, or for setting some kind of moral example for the entire world. Goku is simply a martial artist who’s devoted his life toward perfecting his fighting skills and other abilities. Though never shy about risking his life to save either one person or the entire world, he just doesn’t believe that the balance of the world rests in any way on his shoulders, and he has no need to shape any part of it in his image. Goku is an idealist, and believes that there is some good in everyone, but he is unconcerned with the big picture of the world…unless it has to do with some kind of fight. Politics, society, law and order don’t have much bearing on his life, but he’s a man who knows right from wrong.

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Re: Official On-Going DBZ 2013 Movie Thread: "Battle of Gods

Post by JulieYBM » Tue Sep 17, 2013 11:57 am

Week #1 Sales:
Regular DVD: 14,262
Limited Edition DVD: 12,298
Regular Blu-ray: 17,944
Limited Edition Blu-ray: 5,877

This doesn't bode well.
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Post by sangofe » Tue Sep 17, 2013 11:59 am

JulieYBM wrote:Week #1 Sales:
Regular DVD: 14,262
Limited Edition DVD: 12,298
Regular Blu-ray: 17,944
Limited Edition Blu-ray: 5,877

This doesn't bode well.
Source and where?

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Post by Haseowolf » Tue Sep 17, 2013 12:02 pm

JulieYBM wrote:Week #1 Sales:
Regular DVD: 14,262
Limited Edition DVD: 12,298
Regular Blu-ray: 17,944
Limited Edition Blu-ray: 5,877

This doesn't bode well.
It might not be selling gangbusters, but all those editions at, well let's just average it out to something like $30 USD, that's $1.5 million on domestic home release. Add that to the box office numbers as well, and then there is the eventual international home releases and I don't think they're doing too shabby. But, that's just me. I know I'd be happy with $1.5 million in a week.
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Re: Official On-Going DBZ 2013 Movie Thread: "Battle of Gods

Post by JulieYBM » Tue Sep 17, 2013 12:04 pm

sangofe wrote:
JulieYBM wrote:Week #1 Sales:
Regular DVD: 14,262
Limited Edition DVD: 12,298
Regular Blu-ray: 17,944
Limited Edition Blu-ray: 5,877

This doesn't bode well.
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Post by Chuquita » Tue Sep 17, 2013 1:02 pm

I don't follow DVD sales much, if those numbers are bad that is disheartening.

Three more things from the movie I forgot to mention before that I liked:
-Shu finding ten years worth of ham in the prize room.
-Vegeta narrating to himself in his head, including third person referencing to himself as "Vegeta-sama". I recall how that entertained me in the series proper. X3
-Gokû not knowing how he did it and what he did at the end in ssjg to that attack of Beers.
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Post by goku the krump dancer » Tue Sep 17, 2013 1:40 pm

You know, part of me thinks that we're supposed to have these mixed views on SSJGod... I say this because throughout the entire movie its hyped up and down played at the same.

A couple examples of this is are as follow

Hype ups:
1.Beers' dream.
2.The Prophecy of the Oracle fish.
3.The only way to match Beers in strength.
4.Beers' enthusiasm to fight an SSJGod.

Down Plays:
1.Whis says "It seems overrated" when responding to Beers' enthusiasm of it.
2. Its not a "God" in the literal sense.
3. Goku's (the series protagonist) is dissatisfied with the method to achieve the power.
4.Beers was stronger than the God power anyway.
5. Beers' seemed more impressed with Goku's character rather than the fact that they were able to exchange blows for a bit.
6.The Oracle Fish doesn't even remember having the premonition.

I'm sure theres more but with so many "In- Universe" mixed views I think the viewers are supposed to ask themselves "So is this form cool or Stupid?"
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Post by Fennekin » Tue Sep 17, 2013 1:56 pm

Speaking of the Oracle Fish, I was really expecting it to have a few more scenes, but only got one. I know it wasn't that important of a character, but it was interesting.

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Post by MrKaytos » Tue Sep 17, 2013 1:56 pm

I think the figures are quite positive: 50.391 copies in just one single week!

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Post by Chuquita » Tue Sep 17, 2013 1:59 pm

I appreciate the in-universe mixed views, just like with the characters having mixed views on which of the saiyajins are pure-hearted and arguing about it. (Also Gokû face-palming with embarrassment when he's mentioned.)

Ssjg appeals to my enjoyment of cute things and combines it with my favorite db character. I've been having a blast with him. X3
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Post by DBZGTKOSDH » Tue Sep 17, 2013 2:19 pm

goku the krump dancer wrote:Its not a "God" in the literal sense.
It is, since Goku has godly ki, and can also sense godly ki.
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Superman is, and always has been, a symbol for truth, justice, and upstanding moral fortitude–a role model and leader as much as a fighter. The more down-to-earth Goku has no illusions about being responsible for maintaining social order, or for setting some kind of moral example for the entire world. Goku is simply a martial artist who’s devoted his life toward perfecting his fighting skills and other abilities. Though never shy about risking his life to save either one person or the entire world, he just doesn’t believe that the balance of the world rests in any way on his shoulders, and he has no need to shape any part of it in his image. Goku is an idealist, and believes that there is some good in everyone, but he is unconcerned with the big picture of the world…unless it has to do with some kind of fight. Politics, society, law and order don’t have much bearing on his life, but he’s a man who knows right from wrong.

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Post by BlazingFiddlesticks » Tue Sep 17, 2013 3:37 pm

Finally saw it; movie took forever to get to the point, Pilaf should have been cut, it stacked way too many jokes on top of each other and... wow it just took forever to get to the point. Like, I didn't care about Super Sayain God by the time it happened. Son Goku and Friends return worked because you weren't supposed to take it seriously and was 40 miuntes; you can't keep that kind of attitude for 85 minutes and still expect anyone to care about the fight. Beerus and Whis are wonderful, but the former's prestige was so far gone by the end that he couldn't impress. I get that Toriyama wanted to be subvert the usual, and most of his ideas do it wonderfully, but... again, you can't stretch something with "Goku and Friend's Return"'s tone over 85 minutes. Disappoint. :(

Ironically, Super Sayain God itself wasn't much of a problem for me, namely because I like the idea of the "moral Sayain", how Piccolo and Beerus deliberately point out that it's more than just transferring ki, and how Goku immediately shoots it down as a deus ex Sayain. Fading in and out of it randomly was odd, but that could have been explained away with Goku's not knowing how to maintain it, which is what I suspect happened.

Watching with half the room being mono-dub fans who weren't expecting the movie's tone doesn't help. :lolno:
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Post by Ajay » Tue Sep 17, 2013 4:38 pm

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Post by JulieYBM » Tue Sep 17, 2013 4:46 pm

Chuquita wrote:I appreciate the in-universe mixed views, just like with the characters having mixed views on which of the saiyajins are pure-hearted and arguing about it. (Also Gokû face-palming with embarrassment when he's mentioned.)

Ssjg appeals to my enjoyment of cute things and combines it with my favorite db character. I've been having a blast with him. X3
Even if we don't get a sequel, I'm happy we got this.
Well, they could certainly be better. One Piece Film Z and the Madoka Magica movies pulled in as much and more simply through the limited edition Blu-rays. It took combining four different releases to hit fifty thousand units for a movie that couldn't even reach the projected theatrical gross.
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JulieYBM wrote:
Chuquita wrote:I appreciate the in-universe mixed views, just like with the characters having mixed views on which of the saiyajins are pure-hearted and arguing about it. (Also Gokû face-palming with embarrassment when he's mentioned.)

Ssjg appeals to my enjoyment of cute things and combines it with my favorite db character. I've been having a blast with him. X3
Even if we don't get a sequel, I'm happy we got this.
Well, they could certainly be better. One Piece Film Z and the Madoka Magica movies pulled in as much and more simply through the limited edition Blu-rays. It took combining four different releases to hit fifty thousand units for a movie that couldn't even reach the projected theatrical gross.
Those are also more new and current anime. So they are supposed to pull more in than Dragonball.
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Post by Daimo-Rukiri » Tue Sep 17, 2013 7:30 pm

I finally got my copy today, mixed feelings on stacking the 2 disks...

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Post by ShadowDude112 » Tue Sep 17, 2013 8:00 pm

Daimo-Rukiri wrote:I finally got my copy today, mixed feelings on stacking the 2 disks...
They weren't stacked though. They were in two separate spaces from each other.
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