TheMightyOzaru wrote:I hope C-18 wins but I'm pretty sure she wont -_-.
Personally, I'm rooting for Arale, as I have more interest in the humor she would bring...but if her loss is a result of something comedic, like her not being interested anymore or something, than I'm fine with that too.
Basically I just want to see poor Senbei left to cry cuz she can't bring 18 over. Sorry Senbei, but it must happen.
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TheMightyOzaru wrote:I hope C-18 wins but I'm pretty sure she wont -_-.
Personally, I'm rooting for Arale, as I have more interest in the humor she would bring...but if her loss is a result of something comedic, like her not being interested anymore or something, than I'm fine with that too.
Basically I just want to see poor Senbei left to cry cuz she can't bring 18 over. Sorry Senbei, but it must happen.
Krillin's wife senses would tingle and he'd kick Senbei's ass if he tried to do anything to 18 .
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I want Arale to win, but I think that she will loose through a silly way. If not in this round, definitely on the next one.
James Teal (Animerica 1996) wrote:When you think about it, there are a number of similarities between the Chinese-inspired Son Goku and that most American of superhero icons, Superman. Both are aliens sent to Earth shortly after birth to escape the destruction of their homeworlds; both possess super-strength, flight, super-speed, heightened senses and the ability to cast energy blasts. But the crucial difference between them lies not only in how they view the world, but in how the world views them.
Superman is, and always has been, a symbol for truth, justice, and upstanding moral fortitude–a role model and leader as much as a fighter. The more down-to-earth Goku has no illusions about being responsible for maintaining social order, or for setting some kind of moral example for the entire world. Goku is simply a martial artist who’s devoted his life toward perfecting his fighting skills and other abilities. Though never shy about risking his life to save either one person or the entire world, he just doesn’t believe that the balance of the world rests in any way on his shoulders, and he has no need to shape any part of it in his image. Goku is an idealist, and believes that there is some good in everyone, but he is unconcerned with the big picture of the world…unless it has to do with some kind of fight. Politics, society, law and order don’t have much bearing on his life, but he’s a man who knows right from wrong.
I am not interested in these matches, and don't care who wins.
The Monkey King wrote:
RandomGuy96 wrote:
dbgtFO wrote:
Please elaborate as I do not know what you mean by "pushing Vegeta's destruction"
He's probably referring to the Bardock special. Zarbon was the one who first recommended destroying Planet Vegeta because the saiyans were rapidly growing in strength.
It was actually Beerus disguised as Zarbon #StayWoke
Herms wrote:The fact that the ridiculous power inflation is presented so earnestly makes me just roll my eyes and snicker. Like with Freeza, where he starts off over 10 times stronger than all his henchmen except Ginyu (because...well, just because), then we find out he can transform and get even more powerful, and then he reveals he can transform two more times, before finally coming out with the fact that he hasn't even been using anywhere near 50% of his power. Oh, and he can survive in the vacuum of space. All this stuff is just presented as the way Freeza is, without even an attempt at rationalizing it, yet the tone dictates we're supposed to take all this silly grasping at straws as thrilling danger. So I guess I don't really take the power inflation in the Boo arc seriously, but I don't take the power inflation in earlier arcs seriously either, so there's no net loss of seriousness. I think a silly story presented as serious is harder to accept than a silly story presented as silly.
18 will win because Senbei can't get his way. The multi-verse doesn't like perverts.
Why Dragon Ball Consistency in something such as power levels matter!
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Doctor. wrote:I've explained before, I'll just paraphrase myself.
Power levels establish tension and drama. People who care about them (well, people who care about them in a narrative) don't care about the big numbers or the fancy explosions. If you have character A who's so much above character B, who's the main character, you're gonna be left wondering how in the hell character B, the character we're supposed to care and root for, is going to escape the situation or overcome the odds. It makes us emotionally invested.
If character B doesn't escape the situation in a believable way that's consistent with previous events, then that emotional investment is gone. It was pointless tension, pointless drama made just to suck in the viewer. It has no critical value whatsoever. The audience is left believing that the author can just create whatever scenarios he wants and what happens to the characters is decided by whatever the author wants to happen, regardless of the events that happened in the story. Which, in fairness, is what happens, but the audience wants to be fooled. The audience wants to know that the world they're following has rules. That the world they're invested in isn't going to bend to external factors that are irrelevant to them.
An author can do whatever he wants with the characters, that's not false. But the author should also have the responsibility to make sure it fits in cohesively with the other events in the narrative he has created.
I think Random Guy wants more serious fights like the ones we got earlier in the series. Nail VS Reccome, Uub VS that one armor guy, Vegito VS Broly and so on. I must admit Multiverse has lost a lot of my interest as the series has progressed. The inconsistent pacing and art just makes it meh for me now to be honest.
I think Random Guy wants more serious fights like the ones we got earlier in the series. Nail VS Reccome, Uub VS that one armor guy, Vegito VS Broly and so on. I must admit Multiverse has lost a lot of my interest as the series has progressed. The inconsistent pacing and art just makes it meh for me now to be honest.
Its pacing is more than consistent. At most you can complain about the pacing being slow but even then you would be complaining more about the pacing of the release schedule than about the pacing of the manga itself. And that's more of lack of patience on your part than anything else.
To get back to what's in store for Vegetto, I don't think it would be right for him to turn "evil", or crazy, or whatever...
However, he could become some kind of Birus: not "evil" per say, but just wanting challenge enough so that he tends to be a little extreme to get it sometimes and might be threatening if he's in a bad mood.
But I don't see him as losing it forever and becoming a plain villain seeking destruction, the Multiverse Vegetto might rather become an alternative Birus of sorts, I think Birus is the right depiction of what "the guy who is so powerful that there's no more challenges for him" ends up being.
Actually, my day was amazing. Everyone was just stating their thoughts on the matches and who they thought should win, so I did too. I don't like when DBM starts with the gags anyway, since they're usually not funny.
The Monkey King wrote:
RandomGuy96 wrote:
dbgtFO wrote:
Please elaborate as I do not know what you mean by "pushing Vegeta's destruction"
He's probably referring to the Bardock special. Zarbon was the one who first recommended destroying Planet Vegeta because the saiyans were rapidly growing in strength.
It was actually Beerus disguised as Zarbon #StayWoke
Herms wrote:The fact that the ridiculous power inflation is presented so earnestly makes me just roll my eyes and snicker. Like with Freeza, where he starts off over 10 times stronger than all his henchmen except Ginyu (because...well, just because), then we find out he can transform and get even more powerful, and then he reveals he can transform two more times, before finally coming out with the fact that he hasn't even been using anywhere near 50% of his power. Oh, and he can survive in the vacuum of space. All this stuff is just presented as the way Freeza is, without even an attempt at rationalizing it, yet the tone dictates we're supposed to take all this silly grasping at straws as thrilling danger. So I guess I don't really take the power inflation in the Boo arc seriously, but I don't take the power inflation in earlier arcs seriously either, so there's no net loss of seriousness. I think a silly story presented as serious is harder to accept than a silly story presented as silly.
Sigh...honestly I never liked the whole "absolute power corrupts absolutely turn". In my mind, what power should be is something that frees your inhibitions. It's not something that creates bad traits in you so much as it simply allows them to be expressed more freely, without the fear of punishment you would normally have. So basically, everyone has faults, but not everybody really gets a chance to show those faults until they happen to have money or power...
So basically, I don't think I really dig this whole "Vegetto becoming evil" thing. At least, not just because of having tons of power. I mean heck, you didn't see that happening to Superman, or Bruce Lee, did you?
Kataphrut wrote:It's a bit of a Boy Who Cried Wolf situation to me...Basically, the boy shouldn't have cried wolf when the wolves just wanted to Go See Yamcha. If not, they might have gotten some help when the wolves came back to Make the Donuts.
Chuquita wrote:I liken Gokû Black to "guy can't stand his job, so instead of quitting and finding a job he likes, he instead sets fire not only to his workplace so he doesn't have to work there, but tries setting fire to every store in the franchise of that company".
Cold Skin wrote:To get back to what's in store for Vegetto, I don't think it would be right for him to turn "evil", or crazy, or whatever...
However, he could become some kind of Birus: not "evil" per say, but just wanting challenge enough so that he tends to be a little extreme to get it sometimes and might be threatening if he's in a bad mood.
But I don't see him as losing it forever and becoming a plain villain seeking destruction, the Multiverse Vegetto might rather become an alternative Birus of sorts, I think Birus is the right depiction of what "the guy who is so powerful that there's no more challenges for him" ends up being.
100% agreed. Surely there could be other ways for Vegetto to provoke a fight with Gohan than hurting Pan or whatever sadistic crap he had in mind Even something silly like stealing all his books or erasing his computer would be more appropriate.
He's made of two evil fucks who treasure fighting above all else. Why wouldn't he be a bad guy, who just wants to fight more? Fusion seems to draw out the worst in the fusees anyway; see Gotenks. Goten was pure of heart and Trunks, while arrogant, still knew when it was time to stop screwing around. Gotenks was a arrogant blowhard who didn't seem to care at all that he was the only person in the universe (including the whole afterlife) that could stop the god eating monster that just murdered Gotenks' entire family, along with the rest of the Earth. And absorbing him seemed to make Buu even more evil somehow.
The Monkey King wrote:
RandomGuy96 wrote:
dbgtFO wrote:
Please elaborate as I do not know what you mean by "pushing Vegeta's destruction"
He's probably referring to the Bardock special. Zarbon was the one who first recommended destroying Planet Vegeta because the saiyans were rapidly growing in strength.
It was actually Beerus disguised as Zarbon #StayWoke
Herms wrote:The fact that the ridiculous power inflation is presented so earnestly makes me just roll my eyes and snicker. Like with Freeza, where he starts off over 10 times stronger than all his henchmen except Ginyu (because...well, just because), then we find out he can transform and get even more powerful, and then he reveals he can transform two more times, before finally coming out with the fact that he hasn't even been using anywhere near 50% of his power. Oh, and he can survive in the vacuum of space. All this stuff is just presented as the way Freeza is, without even an attempt at rationalizing it, yet the tone dictates we're supposed to take all this silly grasping at straws as thrilling danger. So I guess I don't really take the power inflation in the Boo arc seriously, but I don't take the power inflation in earlier arcs seriously either, so there's no net loss of seriousness. I think a silly story presented as serious is harder to accept than a silly story presented as silly.
RandomGuy96 wrote:He's made of two evil fucks who treasure fighting above all else. Why wouldn't he be a bad guy, who just wants to fight more? Fusion seems to draw out the worst in the fusees anyway; see Gotenks. Goten was pure of heart and Trunks, while arrogant, still knew when it was time to stop screwing around. Gotenks was a arrogant blowhard who didn't seem to care at all that he was the only person in the universe (including the whole afterlife) that could stop the god eating monster that just murdered Gotenks' entire family, along with the rest of the Earth. And absorbing him seemed to make Buu even more evil somehow.
That had more to do with Piccolo making him more intelligent and cunning.
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RandomGuy96 wrote:He's made of two evil fucks who treasure fighting above all else. Why wouldn't he be a bad guy, who just wants to fight more? Fusion seems to draw out the worst in the fusees anyway; see Gotenks. Goten was pure of heart and Trunks, while arrogant, still knew when it was time to stop screwing around. Gotenks was a arrogant blowhard who didn't seem to care at all that he was the only person in the universe (including the whole afterlife) that could stop the god eating monster that just murdered Gotenks' entire family, along with the rest of the Earth. And absorbing him seemed to make Buu even more evil somehow.
That had more to do with Piccolo making him more intelligent and cunning.
No, Piccolo gave him nothing in terms of intelligence. Absorbing Gotenks, however, removed any bit of good in him, i.e. his fondness for Mr. Satan.
The Monkey King wrote:
RandomGuy96 wrote:
dbgtFO wrote:
Please elaborate as I do not know what you mean by "pushing Vegeta's destruction"
He's probably referring to the Bardock special. Zarbon was the one who first recommended destroying Planet Vegeta because the saiyans were rapidly growing in strength.
It was actually Beerus disguised as Zarbon #StayWoke
Herms wrote:The fact that the ridiculous power inflation is presented so earnestly makes me just roll my eyes and snicker. Like with Freeza, where he starts off over 10 times stronger than all his henchmen except Ginyu (because...well, just because), then we find out he can transform and get even more powerful, and then he reveals he can transform two more times, before finally coming out with the fact that he hasn't even been using anywhere near 50% of his power. Oh, and he can survive in the vacuum of space. All this stuff is just presented as the way Freeza is, without even an attempt at rationalizing it, yet the tone dictates we're supposed to take all this silly grasping at straws as thrilling danger. So I guess I don't really take the power inflation in the Boo arc seriously, but I don't take the power inflation in earlier arcs seriously either, so there's no net loss of seriousness. I think a silly story presented as serious is harder to accept than a silly story presented as silly.
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Even something silly like stealing all his books or erasing his computer would be more appropriate.
