That scene before Goku went SSJG again

[dbzfan7]

What exactly happened. We see what looks to be Goku passing out, and then all the sudden some blue energy (probably the same stuff that came from the 5 saiyans when they gave Goku their ki) just shot itself right into Goku so he could transform again.

[TheMightyOzaru]

I get the feeling he can access SSJ God anytime now.

[dbzfan7]

I get the feeling he can access SSJ God anytime now.

Possibly. It looked to me that the he got an external source to become SSJ God again. The power just out of nowhere jumped into Goku and gave him enough power to pull off one more transformation.

[TheMightyOzaru]

I get the feeling he can access SSJ God anytime now.

Possibly. It looked to me that the he got an external source to become SSJ God again. The power just out of nowhere jumped into Goku and gave him enough power to pull off one more transformation.

It seems he learned how to ascend permanently on accident. I mean, it doesn't make a whole lot of sense for him not to keep it based on what Whis says. He offers him a job for God of Destruction. Why would he offer a job to someone who needs 5 people to become temporarily strong. It doesn't add up. Keeping SSJ God doesn't tamper with the whole Uub thing so long as his base form is just the same as it was before. Yeah Goku says he's not sure how he did what he did at the end, but that to me is more of a I don't know how I did it, but I can do it again if I wanted to kind of statement.

[mAcChaos]

I figured he was about to give up, but then remembered all his friends would die and suddenly he got the boost again.

[TheMightyOzaru]

I figured he was about to give up, but then remembered all his friends would die and suddenly he got the boost again.

That doesn't really explain what happened. You just described the scenario we already know.

[Chuquita]

I do have a theory for this that I use as head-canon, and I base it on this part:

As Goku struggles against Beerus’s energy ball, Beerus tells Goku that Super Saiyan God’s time limit ran out a long time ago. Goku apparently did not notice, because as he fought he absorbed that realm of power into his body. Due to this, even after returning to normal, Goku still did not power down very much. Beerus says that Goku is really something, a rare genius. Now he should be able to be perfectly happy, since this is what he wanted. Goku says he is not though, since there is still such a gap in their powers. In that case, Beerus thinks he should just give up. Beerus’s energy ball threatens to destroy the Earth, but as his friends and family cheer him on, Goku momentarily becomes Super Saiyan God once again, and repels the attack. Impressed, Beerus asks Goku what he did, but Goku does not know.

I take this as an implication that ssjg is supposed to be a temporary power-up, and was, for the original ssjg. To use a metaphor: instead of chewing a piece of gum and spitting it out when you're done, Goku accidentally swallowed it and it's a part of him now whether he likes it or not. For Goku, this is permanent. Because ssjg is activated by pure-hearted feelings/intentions, Goku's desperate desire to prevent the deaths of his family and friends and prevent Earth's destruction were strong enough pure-hearted motivators that it subconsciously woke up ssjg's full power (or at least what of it he can access currently) and allowed him to nulify or absorb Beers' attack. My thoughts on why it deactivated again right after that are Goku himself had gotten tired and run out of energy in general (he does pass out after Beers finishes talking to him) or it's because the power's so new to him that he hasn't even fully figured out what it's capable of yet. If Goku's not even sure how he did what he did to Beers attack at the end, that must mean there's still a good chunk of mysteries surrounding this power. Whis' statement at the end that was mentioned in above posts also adds as another reason why I think Goku's still got ssjg powers at the end.

[Vegeta12]

A lot of Goku's ability's come from no where. So not really suprised

[mAcChaos]

I figured he was about to give up, but then remembered all his friends would die and suddenly he got the boost again.

That doesn't really explain what happened. You just described the scenario we already know.

Well.

Goku himself doesn't know how it works. So if anything it leaves the door open to further explanation in a sequel.

[TheDevilsCorpse]

Video game mechanics. Not much help or anything substantial to go on, but Zenkai Battle Royale is pretty good at staying faithful, even including the time limit for the form.

The time that you can remain in Super Saiyan God form is limited, but if you use the power of “Everyone’s Prayers”, you can enter God form one more time. On top of that, if your “excitement/tension” gets to its MAX, you can use “Everyone’s Prayers” again.

[dbzfan7]

Video game mechanics. Not much help or anything substantial to go on, but Zenkai Battle Royale is pretty good at staying faithful, even including the time limit for the form.

The time that you can remain in Super Saiyan God form is limited, but if you use the power of “Everyone’s Prayers”, you can enter God form one more time. On top of that, if your “excitement/tension” gets to its MAX, you can use “Everyone’s Prayers” again.

I still don't get how that allows Goku to go SSJG again.

[DBZGTKOSDH]

I'm not sure if Goku kept the form or not... The movie seems to imply that he kept it, but the 28th TB arc implies the opposite.

So, I'll say for now that Goku can still go Super Saiyan God at will (once he learns how to use it of course), and can learn how to absorb the power in his base & Super Saiyan forms, and then release it to return back to normal. In other words, Goku's forms work like this now:

base ---> Super Saiyan ---> Super Saiyan Grade 2 ---> Super Saiyan Grade 3
or
base ---> Super Saiyan ---> Super Saiyan 2 ---> Super Saiyan 3
or
base ---> Super Saiyan God ---> base (with god power) ---> Super Saiyan (with god power)

During the 28th TB, I believe he was planning to use SS3 against Oob, but not SSG.

[Tenshin_Saiyan]

I'm not sure if Goku kept the form or not... The movie seems to imply that he kept it, but the 28th TB arc implies the opposite.

So, I'll say for now that Goku can still go Super Saiyan God at will (once he learns how to use it of course), and can learn how to absorb the power in his base & Super Saiyan forms, and then release it to return back to normal. In other words, Goku's forms work like this now:

base ---> Super Saiyan ---> Super Saiyan Grade 2 ---> Super Saiyan Grade 3
or
base ---> Super Saiyan ---> Super Saiyan 2 ---> Super Saiyan 3
or
base ---> Super Saiyan God ---> base (with god power) ---> Super Saiyan (with god power)

During the 28th TB, I believe he was planning to use SS3 against Oob, but not SSG.

I agree. For me after see the movie it's clear that Goku has the godly energy in his body and kept the form, but he wouldn't use it against Oob because he didn't like the SSJG form, as he said to Beers. He'd probably use the SSJ3 form to fighting Oob.

[dbzfan7]

If he kept that power then Oob would be child's play. He said Oob could even beat him. With SSJ God's power he would not lose. If he kept it then why would he not go train with Birus and Whis.

[TheGmGoken]

If he kept that power then Oob would be child's play. He said Oob could even beat him. With SSJ God's power he would not lose. If he kept it then why would he not go train with Birus and Whis.

Because BoG came out after Oob.

Real answer: He accidentally re enter the form. He knows how but doesn't know how.

[TheMightyOzaru]

If he kept that power then Oob would be child's play. He said Oob could even beat him. With SSJ God's power he would not lose. If he kept it then why would he not go train with Birus and Whis.

He would be childs play if he used SSJ God, the best part about this is he doesn't have to . SSJ2 or SSJ3 is good enough.

[dbzfan7]

If he kept that power then Oob would be child's play. He said Oob could even beat him. With SSJ God's power he would not lose. If he kept it then why would he not go train with Birus and Whis.

He would be childs play if he used SSJ God, the best part about this is he doesn't have to . SSJ2 or SSJ3 is good enough.

I don't see why Oob is worth his time if he has SSJ God. Oob could never compare to that. If Goku kept it he would have gone to train with Birus and Whis to have actual challenges.

[bleed0range]

Somebody on here made a theory that if his friends pray or "believe" in him then it lends to the ssj god's power. I love this theory because it makes the form more unique. You get the power of the god form initially from a group of fellow saiyans lending their power to you. Perhaps once that is done initially, without continued belief or support from them then it wears off. In that moment in BOGS, they all simultaneously yell for him and he receives the power up again. Maybe that's how it works?

[Tenshin_Saiyan]

If he kept that power then Oob would be child's play. He said Oob could even beat him. With SSJ God's power he would not lose. If he kept it then why would he not go train with Birus and Whis.

He would be childs play if he used SSJ God, the best part about this is he doesn't have to . SSJ2 or SSJ3 is good enough.

I don't see why Oob is worth his time if he has SSJ God. Oob could never compare to that. If Goku kept it he would have gone to train with Birus and Whis to have actual challenges.

Goku want to train Oob to protect the Earth also, not only to fight with him. Probably Goku would have gone to train with Whis if he had accepted the job of God of Destruction.

[dbzfan7]

Goku want to train Oob to protect the Earth also, not only to fight with him. Probably Goku would have gone to train with Whis if he had accepted the job of God of Destruction.

Vegeta says protecting the earth has nothing to do with Goku flying off with Oob. Goku just wants a good fight. Even in BOG Muten Roshi said he's an idiot who only cares about fighting. Goku said Oob could BEAT him. With SSJG that's not going to happen. His base level would be so ridiculously high that Oob couldn't do shit to him.