Dragon Ball Z "Seasons" On Blu-ray: News & Discussion

[ABED]

No, I mean what do you think the concept "demand" means? In economics, it's not simply want/desire, it's what people are willing to pay for. To say that they misforcasted the demand for the level sets does mean that at the price point, people weren't willing to part with their money.

[eledoremassis02]

Do you own the level sets?

No. I was planning to buy them after they finish releasing the all volumes.

All that stinks I wanted to wait but I gave in lol....

[sangofe]

fine with waiting for Toei's future releases in Japan.

How can you be sure Toei will release dbz in HD, though?

Do you own the level sets?

No. I was planning to buy them after they finish releasing the all volumes.

All that stinks I wanted to wait but I gave in lol....

At least we got the Saiyan saga (although the last episodes were not released on physical media)

[ABED]

I'm just happy I decided to buy the Dragon Boxes, though if anything happens to them, I'll be upset. I can't easily replace them, not even with a cheap substitute. Kuso!

[Kakarot88]

No, I mean what do you think the concept "demand" means? In economics, it's not simply want/desire, it's what people are willing to pay for. To say that they misforcasted the demand for the level sets does mean that at the price point, people weren't willing to part with their money.

cuz of price or confusion or lack of demand, what your opinion? Mine is people thought they were more of the same. These level sets came out hot on the heels of the orange bricks, they did not seem to be any different except the more expensive blu ray version. And with saying that the orange bricks were definitive etc many were tricked into believing they were genuine and had no idea they were cropped...years later people are about to be duped again...I would even wager that those who said 16:9 on the survey did not "get" what was actually going on. And when these are cropped they'll be cheaper than the level sets justifying the sale of hotcakes...at least likely.

[Kojiro Sasaki]

How can you be sure Toei will release dbz in HD, though?

They will definitely start working on it right after reading my letter

[kei17]

fine with waiting for Toei's future releases in Japan.

How can you be sure Toei will release dbz in HD, though?

Because there's no reason for them not to do so. All the Dragon Ball DVDs except Kai have sold really well. They must want to milk the series again. Also, 2014 will be the 30th anniversary of Dragon Ball.

[ABED]

No, I mean what do you think the concept "demand" means? In economics, it's not simply want/desire, it's what people are willing to pay for. To say that they misforcasted the demand for the level sets does mean that at the price point, people weren't willing to part with their money.

cuz of price or confusion or lack of demand, what your opinion? Mine is people thought they were more of the same. These level sets came out hot on the heels of the orange bricks, they did not seem to be any different except the more expensive blu ray version. And with saying that the orange bricks were definitive etc many were tricked into believing they were genuine and had no idea they were cropped...years later people are about to be duped again...I would even wager that those who said 16:9 on the survey did not "get" what was actually going on. And when these are cropped they'll be cheaper than the level sets justifying the sale of hotcakes...at least likely.

The home video market isn't what it used to be, fewer episodes, as you say the releases weren't that far apart. There's also a cost component. If the sets sold what they did but the cost of producing them were lower, it could've been a success. I'm not a technophile, so a nice once over to keep the film looking nice is fine. I don't need an expensive remaster to find value in a release.

It's so weird that when dvds started becoming the standard, people were still clinging to 4:3, but after they got used to widescreen, everything has to be widescreen. I just don't get why some seem to be so confused about aspect ratios. Sure, not everyone is super knowledgable about such things but a minute should be all it takes to clear up any confusion on the subject.

They must want to milk the series again.

Nothing wrong with milking the series, the problem is when the product is garbage.

[sangofe]

fine with waiting for Toei's future releases in Japan.

How can you be sure Toei will release dbz in HD, though?

Because there's no reason for them not to do so. All the Dragon Ball DVDs except Kai have sold really well. They must want to milk the series again. Also, 2014 will be the 30th anniversary of Dragon Ball.

Toei is Toei, though. Sometimes they do things you can't understand.

[kei17]

Toei is Toei, though. Sometimes they do things you can't understand.

The worst scenario would be treating Kai as the only HD version of DBZ and not releasing the original Z in HD forever.

[eledoremassis02]

Toei is Toei, though. Sometimes they do things you can't understand.

The worst scenario would be treating Kai as the only HD version of DBZ and not releasing the original Z in HD forever.

My only fear, in Japan, is that it took forever to get DBZ on a home format. Though since they took that step they might be more brazen.

[Kakarot88]

Bahaha and then they use Funimation's cropped crap to save on cash!

[DBZGTKOSDH]

fine with waiting for Toei's future releases in Japan.

How can you be sure Toei will release dbz in HD, though?

Because there's no reason for them not to do so. All the Dragon Ball DVDs except Kai have sold really well. They must want to milk the series again. Also, 2014 will be the 30th anniversary of Dragon Ball.

Didn't FUNi say that it was Toei that stopped them from doing the Level Sets, or something like that?

[Metalwario64]

After calming down, I've decided I just don't care anymore.

No point in being upset over cropping, especially since it's been so long since the season sets. I'm still disappointed, but I'm just kinda burnt out on complaining I suppose.

[KingofWisdom]

I was pretty much hoping for the Dragon Box on Blu-Ray, with the added audio track of the dub and US replacement score (just to have it there). Something that could stay on the market this time. I don't think it's worth trying to stop people from buying it, though, unless they're aware that it shouldn't be cropped. I'm interested enough to at least see what the remastering is like (assuming it isn't the orange brick footage), but yeah, I'm certainly not buying it in hopes of a better release down the line.

[jjgp1112]

Because there's no reason for them not to do so. All the Dragon Ball DVDs except Kai have sold really well. They must want to milk the series again. Also, 2014 will be the 30th anniversary of Dragon Ball.

Didn't FUNi say that it was Toei that stopped them from doing the Level Sets, or something like that?

They said nothing of the sort. It was the costs of the remastering process and the fact that they weren't getting the returns to make it financially sustainable.

[Fennekin]

This is just ridiculous. I didn't care at first, but it's obvious that the Dragon Boxes are the desired release, so why can't they just re-release it on Blu-Ray? Did the Dragon Boxes have Faulconer music or something?

[MarcFBR]

This is just ridiculous. I didn't care at first, but it's obvious that the Dragon Boxes are the desired release, so why can't they just re-release it on Blu-Ray? Did the Dragon Boxes have Faulconer music or something?

People tend to not be happy with upscaled material that has film masters.

[Kakarot88]

This is just ridiculous. I didn't care at first, but it's obvious that the Dragon Boxes are the desired release, so why can't they just re-release it on Blu-Ray? Did the Dragon Boxes have Faulconer music or something?

People tend to not be happy with upscaled material that has film masters.[/quote]
The Dragon Boxes did not have Faulconer music which some people wanted hence why they wanted a blue ray in proper 4:3 with Japanese audio, US dub with Japanese music, and US broadcast (ie Faulconer) audio...alas that will not be happening

[MagicBox]

I'm still disappointed, but I'm just kinda burnt out on complaining I suppose.

This pretty much sums up the responses I've seen. I remember everyone being much more riled up back in 2007. I think we're all just still tired.

If this has taken the results of the survey into consideration, then I can't say I blame Funimation for this one.

This has been mentioned a few times, but I still can't use it to justify what FUNi is doing. I mean, we all knew ignorant fans were going to vote for widescreen. That's what everyone was worried about back in the thread for the survey. Our worries have been realized. I just can't shrug it off and say "Welp, the people have spoken" because the people spoke for the wrong thing without understanding what they were voting on. Surveys should be used to gauge what kinds of bonus features people prefer, or what they'd like to see on the packaging. You don't use them to ask how the show should be presented. Fans don't have a say in that. The show just is; there's no room for debate. For that survey (and its results) to entertain the notion that widescreen is an acceptable "option" for a show like this is not only going to cause more confusion among the general public about how high-definition and aspect ratios work, but further divide an already fragmented fanbase. And I absolutely blame FUNimation for that.

But I know I'm preaching to the choir, so I just have to suck it up and accept that this is a thing.