That scene before Goku went SSJG again

[TheGmGoken]

Goku want to train Oob to protect the Earth also, not only to fight with him. Probably Goku would have gone to train with Whis if he had accepted the job of God of Destruction.

Vegeta says protecting the earth has nothing to do with Goku flying off with Oob. Goku just wants a good fight. Even in BOG Muten Roshi said he's an idiot who only cares about fighting. Goku said Oob could BEAT him. With SSJG that's not going to happen. His base level would be so ridiculously high that Oob couldn't do shit to him.

As Vegeta would say. "He should have just tickled him. Then he would have felt something"

[Tenshin_Saiyan]

Goku want to train Oob to protect the Earth also, not only to fight with him. Probably Goku would have gone to train with Whis if he had accepted the job of God of Destruction.

Vegeta says protecting the earth has nothing to do with Goku flying off with Oob. Goku just wants a good fight. Even in BOG Muten Roshi said he's an idiot who only cares about fighting. Goku said Oob could BEAT him. With SSJG that's not going to happen. His base level would be so ridiculously high that Oob couldn't do shit to him.

In the manga Goku says to Satan that maybe he will not win the tournament, but the saiyans have agreed to not use any SSJ form last tournament... Oob surely was a great challenge to base Goku on tournament but it's unclear if Oob could beat SSJ3 Goku, much less SSJG.

[TheMightyOzaru]

If he kept that power then Oob would be child's play. He said Oob could even beat him. With SSJ God's power he would not lose. If he kept it then why would he not go train with Birus and Whis.

He would be childs play if he used SSJ God, the best part about this is he doesn't have to . SSJ2 or SSJ3 is good enough.

I don't see why Oob is worth his time if he has SSJ God. Oob could never compare to that. If Goku kept it he would have gone to train with Birus and Whis to have actual challenges.

SSJ2 Vegeta would give SSJ2 Goku a challenge. Goku just likes fighting, if he fought Uub with SSJ3 and received a challenge, he would be satisfied. Goku also wanted someone to take his place.

[DBZGTKOSDH]

SSJ2 Vegeta would give SSJ2 Goku a challenge. Goku just likes fighting, if he fought Uub with SSJ3 and received a challenge, he would be satisfied. Goku also wanted someone to take his place.

And he also wanted to fight a new opponent.

[SsjRavi]

I assumed he started to absorb Birus' attack and converted the energy into his own to trigger the transformation kinda like in movie 7 with the genki dama, hence why Birus complemented him as a genius after.

[Saiyatonian]

It would seem like it's only if Goku feels that his friends and family are in trouble.

[TheGmGoken]

Anyone else...think the scene was VERY similar to Kaioken x20 in the anime. With the whole seeing his friends and family saying his name and getting a big power up.

[Daimo-Rukiri]

If he kept that power then Oob would be child's play. He said Oob could even beat him. With SSJ God's power he would not lose. If he kept it then why would he not go train with Birus and Whis.

Problem is, this was written almost 20 years before the conception of SSJG. I think Akira may have to rewrite that part, kid boo is not anywhere near ssjg in terms of power.

[dbzfan7]

In the manga Goku says to Satan that maybe he will not win the tournament, but the saiyans have agreed to not use any SSJ form last tournament... Oob surely was a great challenge to base Goku on tournament but it's unclear if Oob could beat SSJ3 Goku, much less SSJG.

I don't recall a no SSJ promise for the 28th tourney. Even so I doubt Goku would have kept his word if Oob could properly control his power. Even so base Goku after absorbing Gods power could beat the shit out of Oob.

SSJ2 Vegeta would give SSJ2 Goku a challenge. Goku just likes fighting, if he fought Uub with SSJ3 and received a challenge, he would be satisfied. Goku also wanted someone to take his place.

All Goku needs is base to beat the shit out of Oob if he kept SSJ God. In base form he was fighting Birus and doing way better than he did as an SSJ3. Oob wouldn't stand a chance.

[Saitou Hajime]

It looked to me like the "power of friendship" thing Goku's crew were doing managed to inexplicable recreate the same blue energy from the SSJG ritual, or close enough that he can temporarily regain the SSJG form for one last push. Kind of like how Yusuke got his own version of the sacred light ki during the demon world tournament.

[TheMightyOzaru]

SSJ2 Vegeta would give SSJ2 Goku a challenge. Goku just likes fighting, if he fought Uub with SSJ3 and received a challenge, he would be satisfied. Goku also wanted someone to take his place.

All Goku needs is base to beat the shit out of Oob if he kept SSJ God. In base form he was fighting Birus and doing way better than he did as an SSJ3. Oob wouldn't stand a chance.

No. Since he went SSJ God again, he wouldn't have a supercharged base/SSJ form anymore. His god powers are in his SSJ God form, which the end seems to imply he can use whenever now.

[dbzfan7]

No. Since he went SSJ God again, he wouldn't have a supercharged base/SSJ form anymore. His god powers are in his SSJ God form, which the end seems to imply he can use whenever now.

No way of knowing if that's true or not. It's unlikely he kept SSJ God and yet his base form goes to normal. If he kept SSJ God then his base would be the same. We have no confirmation either way. I doubt his base became his regular power and he has access to SSJ God.

[TheMightyOzaru]

Goku doesn't have Godly powers mixed with his normal self. Those were lingering effects so to speak. His God powers now lie in one form, his Ssj God form. He can still use Ssj, Ssj2, and Ssj3. It's the easiest way to assume he kept it without contradicting the end of the series. He most likely did keep it based on Whis' job offering.

[dbzfan7]

Goku doesn't have Godly powers mixed with his normal self. Those were lingering effects so to speak. His God powers now lie in one form, his Ssj God form. He can still use Ssj, Ssj2, and Ssj3. It's the easiest way to assume he kept it without contradicting the end of the series. He most likely did keep it based on Whis' job offering.

Who's to say it wore off his base form. We can say he kept it or lost it. Besides Birus and Whis there really aren't many other people who could take the job unless the other offers are unknown. So whether he kept SSJ God or not is irrelevant. I don't see it wearing off his base form if he kept the ability and I think I just wore off completely.

[Tenshin_Saiyan]

I have no doubt that Goku kept the SSG form, since Whis offered him the job. It was pretty clear to me. To be a God of Destruction you need a high level of godly energy, and because Goku now can acess it at will, he could have accepted the offer if he wanted.

But it's unclear if he kept the god power on his base form. I think it's unlikely.

[Unicorn_Bazooka]

I think that in whatever comes next (movie or anything) will give us a further explanation.

[Tenshin_Saiyan]

Akira Toriyama has confirmed that Goku kept the SSJGod power.

Will Goku be able to transform into [Super Saiyan] God in the future?

Akira Toriyama: I think you’ll understand if you watch [the movie], but Goku has already absorbed [Super Saiyan] God’s power and made it his own, so there is no need for him to transform into [Super Saiyan] God. Goku basically only thinks of fighting as a sporting match, so borrowing the power of five people isn’t fair, and he resisted doing that; however, it seems his curiosity towards the realm that lay even further beyond him won out.

Source: http://www.kanzenshuu.com/translations/ ... -toriyama/

[dbzfan7]

Akira Toriyama has confirmed that Goku kept the SSJGod power.

Will Goku be able to transform into [Super Saiyan] God in the future?

Akira Toriyama: I think you’ll understand if you watch [the movie], but Goku has already absorbed [Super Saiyan] God’s power and made it his own, so there is no need for him to transform into [Super Saiyan] God. Goku basically only thinks of fighting as a sporting match, so borrowing the power of five people isn’t fair, and he resisted doing that; however, it seems his curiosity towards the realm that lay even further beyond him won out.

Source: http://www.kanzenshuu.com/translations/ ... -toriyama/

Interesting. Even though it makes the whole basis of Oob make no sense as he'd be a fly in comparison and wouldn't be any sort of challenge, and the thought he could possibly lose to Oob is ridiculous now. Seeking out Birus and Whis would make more sense at Goku's level, or getting the other's to become Gods as well. Baring in mind Toriyama also said that the other Saiyans can become SSJ God and I see no reason why the ritual wouldn't be abused as it makes the Elder Kaioshin ritual look like crap.

[DBZGTKOSDH]

My theory is that Goku can activate his God Power if he wants to (to be almost as strong in base & SS, and to turn SSGod), or he doesn't activate it, keeping his normal power in base-SS3. So, Goku wanted Oob to be a challenge for his mortal state.

[dbzfan7]

My theory is that Goku can activate his God Power if he wants to (to be almost as strong in base & SS, and to turn SSGod), or he doesn't activate it, keeping his normal power in base-SS3. So, Goku wanted Oob to be a challenge for his mortal state.

I guess it's like your theory with Ultimate Gohan then?