Official On-Going DBZ 2013 Movie Thread: "Battle of Gods"

[dbzfan7]

The real reason Bills didn't destroy the Earth is because he didn't get to try pudding yet.

He knew Mr. Satan would kick his ass. Mr. Satan can't die.

[UpFromTheSkies]

It's hilarious that the entire fight with Bills was over pudding.

"You Earthlings have eaten it many times, but for me it's a food that I can't even imagine the taste of! Pudding!"--Bills

[aarondirebear]

Ahem.
Trunks and Mai.
Sitting in a tree.
Literally.

[Daimo-Rukiri]

The real reason Bills didn't destroy the Earth is because he didn't get to try pudding yet.

He knew Mr. Satan would kick his ass. Mr. Satan can't die.

No, he'll just claim the credit that he beat a God. I honestly don't want to see any Mr.Satan worship.

[dbzfan7]

No, he'll just claim the credit that he beat a God. I honestly don't want to see any Mr.Satan worship.

Well who believes in stupid light shows and tricks.

[ZombieVito]

Beers mentions Freeza in the Japanese version. It's quite easy to tell even if you don't speak Japanese.

He only mentions him once, when he asks if he defeated him. That line can still be correct. We will have to wait for the official subs. It will be rare for the Latin dub to change a line like that.

[dbzfan7]

Beers mentions Freeza in the Japanese version. It's quite easy to tell even if you don't speak Japanese.

He only mentions him once, when he asks if he defeated him. That line can still be correct. We will have to wait for the official subs. It will be rare for the Latin dub to change a line like that.

Why? We have a synopsis on here that says he couldn't beat Freeza as he is.

[ZombieVito]

The details are the important part, yes Goku can't defeat Freeza but Birusu also said here that he can't defeat anyone, which changes everything about that quote.

I just find interesting they changed that line. Maybe the fan subs are indeed wrong in that scene.

[dbzfan7]

The details are the important part, yes Goku can't defeat Freeza but Birusu also said here that he can't defeat anyone, which changes everything about that quote.

I just find interesting they changed that line. Maybe the fan subs are indeed wrong in that scene.

No it doesn't. If it's not said in the Japanese version, then it doesn't matter. I don't care if another dub changed something, the Japanese version is the only version that matters, the rest are adaptations of the original. Freeza said in the funi dub he could copy the namekian regeneration ability with his scouter, do we possibly accept that. The answer is no.

[ZombieVito]

I know but the real thing is... We don't have official subs, yet.

And please don't compare the funi dub with the Latin one, please.

[Kakarot88]

Beers mentions Freeza in the Japanese version. It's quite easy to tell even if you don't speak Japanese.

He only mentions him once, when he asks if he defeated him. That line can still be correct. We will have to wait for the official subs. It will be rare for the Latin dub to change a line like that.

Why? We have a synopsis on here that says he couldn't beat Freeza as he is.

Whoa whoa whoa ... here's the fan subs which are a direct transaltion from the Koran subs and they say (so yeah maybe still wrong lol but they say:

Beerus says "I heard from Whis that you defeated Freeza?"
Goku replies "Freeza? Yes I defeated Freeza"
Beerus responds: "Seeing you now I don't think you'd be able to...It seems that you power up by turning into a Super Saiyan."

No duh, same as it has always been Super Saiyan powers you up Dragon Ball Z is all about sensing and suppressing Ki.
Goku is in base form relaxed on Kaio sama's planet. Beyond that Goku at this point cannot sense godly ki so again the whole sensing thing.
Further, Beerus later says Goku and Vegeta have infinite potential.
Beerus is doing the Dragon Ball Z trope of underestimating Goku because he cannot sense the depths of Goku's surpressed ki and on its surface he looks weak (see trunks power level 5 lol)

This whole base form does not increase idea is just silly because we see Goku and Vegeta training in that form in the manga (see Goku training in hell)...why train in a form that does not get stronger

Surpressing Ki and not sensing someone's when they are not powering or powered up is a major point of the Namek arc and scouters being useless

Moreover, Vegeta time and again (someone who can sense Ki) consistently calls someone a shrimp or puny when they reach their ultimate form and have more ki . See: Freeza, Cell and Original Boo (*yeah yeah I know Boohan and Super Boo and "Buff Boo" blah blah blah but you get my point)

[dbzfan7]

Whoa whoa whoa ... here's the fan subs which are a direct transaltion from the Koran subs and they say (so yeah maybe still wrong lol but they say:

Beerus says "I heard from Whis that you defeated Freeza?"
Goku replies "Freeza? Yes I defeated Freeza"
Beerus responds: "Seeing you now I don't think you'd be able to...It seems that you power up by turning into a Super Saiyan."

No duh, same as it has always been Super Saiyan powers you up Dragon Ball Z is all about sensing and suppressing Ki.
Goku is in base form relaxed on Kaio sama's planet. Beyond that Goku at this point cannot sense godly ki so again the whole sensing thing.
Further, Beerus later says Goku and Vegeta have infinite potential.
Beerus is doing the Dragon Ball Z trope of underestimating Goku because he cannot sense the depths of Goku's surpressed ki and on its surface he looks weak (see trunks power level 5 lol)

This whole base form does not increase idea is just silly because we see Goku and Vegeta training in that form in the manga (see Goku training in hell)...why train in a form that does not get stronger

Surpressing Ki and not sensing someone's when they are not powering or powered up is a major point of the Namek arc and scouters being useless

Moreover, Vegeta time and again (someone who can sense Ki) consistently calls someone a shrimp or puny when they reach their ultimate form and have more ki . See: Freeza, Cell and Original Boo (*yeah yeah I know Boohan and Super Boo and "Buff Boo" blah blah blah but you get my point)

Goku at no point says he is wrong and the line is not contradicted at any point. No point in the line if it had no meaning. People try to come up with suppressed shit because they don't like Base Saiyans<Freeza. Hell if Ginyu can guestimate Goku's power level and only be 5,000 off, I'm pretty sure the God of Destruction can get a better estimation.

[Kakarot88]

People try to come up with suppressed shit because they don't like Base Saiyans<Freeza.

I'm sure they do, I personally don't care. Vegeta out did Goku and then Goku is number one again, that's about the extent I care. Either way the two pure bloods are the strongest gee how different...again people argue about it but I don't care.

I just think this new idea that base form does not increase is silly because again we see Goku and Vegeta training in that form in the manga (see Goku training in hell)...why train in a form that does not get stronger? It's just counter productive... "I need to get stronger...so I'll train in a form that doesn't get stronger!" Granted he did leave the senzu with Bulma when the genzonengan (spelling?) androids attacked the city (thanks team four star lol!) so Goku may enjoy NOT getting stronger hence why he trains in base form...oh wait we're talking bout Goku who wants to always get stronger...hmmmm....nah you must be right!

Heck though I can reconcile the difference easy enough ...base form gets stronger but it's not stronger than Freeza...yet! Ok, that works and makes Goku in GT even more over powered cuz he is at kid boo's level in base form...fair enough I'll buy it.

If we don;t agree that's fine too, unfortunately we keep seeming to but head so like Trunks says: "believe what you'd like"

[dbzfan7]

Of course base form increases. At this time however his base form isn't greater than Freeza. That's all there is to it. Hell seven years in the after life barely increased his base form at all and Toriyama said pretty much everyone was at their max power around the Boo arc.

[DBZGTKOSDH]

Who said that base Saiyans can't get any stronger? Goku did get stronger, just not stronger than Freeza.

[DragonBoxZTheMovies]

Went through all of the trailers and TV Spots today. Still amazed by how different the movie came out compared to what I expected and what the teaser and the first trailer seemed to suggest. Think about it, the teaser had Goku standing alone on a cliff with some epic music and the first actual trailer, wow; the feeling you get from it is completely different to what you experience in the film. There was so much talk of, "Creation and Destruction" but aside from being used as a means of introducing Birus, that concept is barely mentioned in the film. Plus you got this sinister-looking guy leaning towards the screen, Goku staring down the new villain in a very dramatic looking shot and pieces of dialogue like the quotes below) that really create a sense of urgency, which isn't at all present in the final film.

Uisu: [in honorific register] “Will you destroy the Earth?”

Kame-Sen’nin: “A god would destroy?!”

Kuririn: “The Earth is doomed!”

Piccolo: “No, the entire galaxy will cease to be.”

The amount of dialogue and animation made specifically for the trailer shouldn't have been surprising, but apparently I fell for it. That Kamehameha, by the way, that's used at the end of the first trailer...looks awful up on a TV. The mouth looks terrible.

As an obsessive fanboy, was I reading too much into everything or were they purposely trying to mislead us (or y'know trying to hype up the film because that's what trailers are meant to do )? It's so weird watching this now:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gS9aOLpA8EU
Can't believe we first saw it back in September last year!

By the way, I'm weird in that I obsess over things that no one else cares about, but come on guys. Look me in the eye and tell me that the title card for the film didn't have you jumping up and down like a 5 year old.

[Super Sayian Prime]

Second week sales for Battle of Gods:
[DVD] Dragon Ball Z: Battle of Gods - 4,598 / 18,860
[DVD] Dragon Ball Z: Battle of Gods Special Limited Edition - 3,558 / 15,856

[BD] Dragon Ball Z: Battle of Gods Special Limited Edition - 2,861 / 20,805
[BD] Dragon Ball Z: Battle of Gods - 2,606 / 8,483

http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news/20 ... mber-16-22
http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news/20 ... mber-16-22

[sangofe]

Second week sales for Battle of Gods:
[DVD] Dragon Ball Z: Battle of Gods - 4,598 / 18,860
[DVD] Dragon Ball Z: Battle of Gods Special Limited Edition - 3,558 / 15,856

[BD] Dragon Ball Z: Battle of Gods Special Limited Edition - 2,861 / 20,805
[BD] Dragon Ball Z: Battle of Gods - 2,606 / 8,483

http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news/20 ... mber-16-22
http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news/20 ... mber-16-22

Are these very low sales? Or good numbers? And... Is it possible to still get the limited edition?

[aarondirebear]

The details are the important part, yes Goku can't defeat Freeza but Birusu also said here that he can't defeat anyone, which changes everything about that quote.

I just find interesting they changed that line. Maybe the fan subs are indeed wrong in that scene.

No it doesn't. If it's not said in the Japanese version, then it doesn't matter. I don't care if another dub changed something, the Japanese version is the only version that matters, the rest are adaptations of the original. Freeza said in the funi dub he could copy the namekian regeneration ability with his scouter, do we possibly accept that. The answer is no.

Damn right.

[ZombieVito]

The details are the important part, yes Goku can't defeat Freeza but Birusu also said here that he can't defeat anyone, which changes everything about that quote.

I just find interesting they changed that line. Maybe the fan subs are indeed wrong in that scene.

No it doesn't. If it's not said in the Japanese version, then it doesn't matter. I don't care if another dub changed something, the Japanese version is the only version that matters, the rest are adaptations of the original. Freeza said in the funi dub he could copy the namekian regeneration ability with his scouter, do we possibly accept that. The answer is no.

Damn right.

Haha regardless, we still don't have official subs.