Fanmanga - Dragon Ball New Age

[Shineman]

Whatever direction you take of your manga, it's your manga. Regardless of what I think, I'll wait and see where it takes. Can't really judge something without actually seeing it happen.


(Although I do actually like Truhan..)

[DBZGTKOSDH]

Well, since Goku believed that he could do Fusion with Gohan, then Trunks shouldn't have any problem. So, no need for Ultimate Trunks.

[Saiga]

Well, since Goku believed that he could do Fusion with Gohan, then Trunks shouldn't have any problem. So, no need for Ultimate Trunks.

If Goku could do the fusion, then it's a plothole. The fusion was outright described as requiring people to be close in power, and Goku couldn't fuse with anyone in Otherworld because they weren't strong enough, so the stronger fusee can't just lower their power. But it's something that Goku only thought of on the fly anyway, and it might not have actually been possible.

So Truhan would be a plothole or an absurd gain on Trunks' part.

[DBZGTKOSDH]

There is evidence in the manga which imply that Ultimate is a different state of base form (but they are the same form). Add the fact that Goku could do Fusion with Gohan with these:

Chapter: 496 (DBZ 302), P7.2-3
Context: after Gohan transforms into the ‘mightiest of warriors’
Goku: “It re-really is incredible…It’s super-duper…! Absolutely unbelievable…Your appearance has hardly changed…And you ain’t even a Super Saiyan…Yet you’ve been taken to su-such an extreme…”
Elder Kaioshin: “Hmph, transforming isn’t good. That Super whatever-its-called is the wrong way [of doing things]…

”Chapter: 497 (DBZ 303), P1.5
Context: as Gohan approaches Boo and co.
Piccolo: “It’s a str-strong ki…! I can’t tell who it is…Is it some new enemy…!?

”Chapter: 497 (DBZ 303), P4.1
Piccolo: “Is-is that Gohan…!? No…Something’s different about him…His features are a little different…And he has a different type of ki than before…His softness has vanished too…That’s why I couldn’t tell it was him…”

And as for the appearance:

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Ultimate Gohan's eyes are also locked into angry-style during the whole fight, like with the Super Saiyan forms.

Personality, hairstyle, and face expressions are different between base & Ultimate. Same form, different states.

[Saiga]

The fact that Gohan keeps the features of his eyes in his supposed "base" form, and that his appearance after does not change much after he does his power up, suggest this is false. The art is just inconsistent, and you've just taken the two most different looking pictures of him when most shots fall in-between two extremes. It's more strongly implied that it's just one state of his.

[Malik_DBNA]

As I stated earlier, I always believed that Gohan is ALWAYS in his Ultimate state, based on how his eyes changed after he revved it up and they never really went back. So in DBNA, Gohan will be considered to always be in his Ultimate State.

As far as Truhan appearing, I spent most of the day yesterday reworking the story so he can appear and its plausible, and the way it comes about actually helps the future storylines in terms of content. This arc is kind of a 'one-shot' for Truhan, so dont expect him to appear frequently afterwards.

[DBZGTKOSDH]

The fact that Gohan keeps the features of his eyes in his supposed "base" form, and that his appearance after does not change much after he does his power up, suggest this is false. The art is just inconsistent, and you've just taken the two most different looking pictures of him when most shots fall in-between two extremes. It's more strongly implied that it's just one state of his.

The fully outlined eyes are the only thing that remained. Just check Gohan's hairstyle in every panel during his fight with Boo, and then check all panels after he was revived. It also explains why the Daizenshuu had Ultimate Gohan appearing only in Vol. 41.

[Malik_DBNA]

The simple addition of fully outlined eyes for the remainder of Gohan's appearance compared to how Gohan looked before his powers were unlocked is enough to convince me that Gohan is always in his Ultimate State. Therefore, he's always in Ultimate in DBNA, just suppressing his full strength.

[DBZGTKOSDH]

The simple addition of fully outlined eyes for the remainder of Gohan's appearance compared to how Gohan looked before his powers were unlocked is enough to convince me that Gohan is always in his Ultimate State. Therefore, he's always in Ultimate in DBNA, just suppressing his full strength.

But by that logic, Gohan shouldn't be able to use Fusion with anyone, since he is hundreds of times stronger than everyone in base. And besides, the fully outlined eyes only one of the traits he didn't lost. He lost all the other traits when he was suppressed (hairstyle, locked angry eyes, impure heart). The fully outlined eyes are only 1 out of 4 traits that remained, so they probably are just a side-effect of the ritual. He is like a Super Saiyan without new colors and aura in Ultimate.

[KentalSSJ6]

Why not just have Goten come back for a day? Vegito was technically half dead and that still worked. Cant he be brought back for a emergency so Gotenks could appear? Could finally get Adult Gotenks in DBNA.

[Malik_DBNA]

Why not just have Goten come back for a day? Vegito was technically half dead and that still worked. Cant he be brought back for a emergency so Gotenks could appear? Could finally get Adult Gotenks in DBNA.

Because Goten's importance will lie elsewhere instead of being Trunks' power crutch.

[KentalSSJ6]

Why not just have Goten come back for a day? Vegito was technically half dead and that still worked. Cant he be brought back for a emergency so Gotenks could appear? Could finally get Adult Gotenks in DBNA.

Because Goten's importance will lie elsewhere instead of being Trunks' power crutch.

Be that as it may, but I honestly dont seeing Gotrunks/Trunhan working out due to the gap in power between them. It would either be a barley noticeable improvement from Gohans power or backfire and make the end result weaker than Gohan's current power, at least in my opinion. Why not Gohan and Vegeta? I can see that fusion working.

[KentalSSJ6]

Nevermind that, forgot Vegeta is possessed.

[Malik_DBNA]

Why not just have Goten come back for a day? Vegito was technically half dead and that still worked. Cant he be brought back for a emergency so Gotenks could appear? Could finally get Adult Gotenks in DBNA.

Because Goten's importance will lie elsewhere instead of being Trunks' power crutch.

Be that as it may, but I honestly dont seeing Gotrunks/Trunhan working out due to the gap in power between them. It would either be a barley noticeable improvement from Gohans power or backfire and make the end result weaker than Gohan's current power, at least in my opinion. Why not Gohan and Vegeta? I can see that fusion working.

Like I said bro, I spent a whole day reworking the story into something more plausible and feasible. I dont make any guarantees, but I think you'll like what I wind up doing with it

[hulkty]

Some more questions:
Will there be an explaination as to why Trunks can fuse with Gohan, since he's so much weaker?
Do you plan to have Trunks and/or Goten at least reach SSj3? (To match with Gotenks...and maybe help his chances of fusing with Gohan.)
Do you plan to have any cameos or important appearances of characters from other anime/manga?
Do you plan to somehow have villains from other "AF" fan-mangas make an appearance? (Xicor, Ize, etc.)
Since a LSSj5 was revealed in just the first saga, do you plan on having villains in the future that can easily beat a SSj5?
Do you have a lot of free time to work on your fan-manga, or do you have a job and do it after work?
Do you plan to have other fusion characters we've yet to see in the future?
Will Bra/Bulla and/or Marron have more important roles in your story?
Do you plan to reveal anymore moments that relate to Battle of Gods in some way?

More questions later...

[KentalSSJ6]

Hulk there isnt a LSSJ5, its just SSJ5. The Legendary Super Saiyan in DBNA is just a Saiyan born with a extremely high power level. You could say Rigor has a experience boost when it came to gaining SSJ forms.

[dbzfan7]

The fact that Gohan keeps the features of his eyes in his supposed "base" form, and that his appearance after does not change much after he does his power up, suggest this is false. The art is just inconsistent, and you've just taken the two most different looking pictures of him when most shots fall in-between two extremes. It's more strongly implied that it's just one state of his.

Yeah that's what I think to. Kinda like how Goku's SSJ style changes as each arc passes.

[DBZGTKOSDH]

The Legendary Super Saiyan in DBNA is just a Saiyan born with a extremely high power level. You could say Rigor has a experience boost when it came to gaining SSJ forms.

Funny, that's exactly how I see Broli. A Saiyan with extremely high battle power that can transform into a Super Saiyan easily. I don't believe his Legendary Super Saiyan form is genetically exclusive to him.

[hulkty]

Hulk there isnt a LSSJ5, its just SSJ5. The Legendary Super Saiyan in DBNA is just a Saiyan born with a extremely high power level. You could say Rigor has a experience boost when it came to gaining SSJ forms.

...you know what I meant. -__-'
He's the LSSj and has SSj5 AND apprently looks different from a regular SSj5. In which case, I'm calling it a LSSj5...just because.

[Malik_DBNA]

Some more questions:
Will there be an explaination as to why Trunks can fuse with Gohan, since he's so much weaker?
Do you plan to have Trunks and/or Goten at least reach SSj3? (To match with Gotenks...and maybe help his chances of fusing with Gohan.)
Do you plan to have any cameos or important appearances of characters from other anime/manga?
Do you plan to somehow have villains from other "AF" fan-mangas make an appearance? (Xicor, Ize, etc.)
Since a LSSj5 was revealed in just the first saga, do you plan on having villains in the future that can easily beat a SSj5?
Do you have a lot of free time to work on your fan-manga, or do you have a job and do it after work?
Do you plan to have other fusion characters we've yet to see in the future?
Will Bra/Bulla and/or Marron have more important roles in your story?
Do you plan to reveal anymore moments that relate to Battle of Gods in some way?

More questions later...

1 - The explanation will be obvious when the time comes
2 - I do have plans for Goten and Trunks to be more than they are. As for forms/ levels they will reach, I don't want to spoil anything.
3 - Other Toriyama manga characters might make small single panel cameos or something, but nothing involved or story altering.
4 - No. This is my own story. Just as the two AF doujinshi are divided from one other, DBNA is divided from them. All the characters appearing in my series are of my own design.
5 - Rigor is the most powerful non-fused mortal being in the DBNA Universe. Aladjinn is one of the most powerful beings to have ever existed, and is more than capable of taking Rigor down easily. Goku and Vegeta, as powerful as they are now, are still FAR behind Rigor in terms of strength. I can't say much more than that.
6 - I work a full time job, come home, work on the doujinshi, make time for my girlfriend, then repeat. My time is very limited, even on weekends.
7 - Maybe.
8 - Bra has already been established as not wanting to fight. She's not battle hungry like her brother or father. Marron is a normal human girl. Bra may play other roles in the future, but it woin't be as a savior.
9 - The Aladjinn Saga is heavy with Battle of Gods material, with more on the way. I can tell you this, Super Saiyan God, Bills, and Whis will NEVER appear in DBNA.

Hulk there isnt a LSSJ5, its just SSJ5. The Legendary Super Saiyan in DBNA is just a Saiyan born with a extremely high power level. You could say Rigor has a experience boost when it came to gaining SSJ forms.

Actually, Rigor was born with a power level identical to his half-brother, Vegeta (in the DBNA Continuity, it was 530. This is slightly above normal, but it just puts them in Elite Class from birth. They noticed how different he was when, a few years later, he was as strong as Vegeta with fewer missions and training excercises). Rigor is a mutant, and genetically different from other Saiyans. He gets stronger faster, has even greater Zenkai boosts, and is able to tap into Super Saiyan forms far more easily than other Saiyans.