Yes. As I've been saying, Arale's power is impossible to quantify because of this fact.TheGmGoken wrote:DBZGTKOSDH wrote:Whis, Beers, SS4 Gogeta, etc can destroy planets & galaxies with ki blasts, but Arale can do that with her fists. No one from Dragon Ball could ever punch a planet and destroy it, and Arale it's possible that Arale is able to destroy a galaxy with her Ncha-cannon.
Isn't Arale's universe different from DB's?
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Penguin Village exists in the Dragon World, and all the villagers after the final Dr. Slump chapters were there, and the Dragon World map in the Daizenshuu has Penguin Village. Chozenshuu 4 states that Neko Majin takes place in a parallel world, but I'm not sure about what it says for Dr. Slump.TheGmGoken wrote:Isn't Arale's universe different from DB's?
James Teal (Animerica 1996) wrote:When you think about it, there are a number of similarities between the Chinese-inspired Son Goku and that most American of superhero icons, Superman. Both are aliens sent to Earth shortly after birth to escape the destruction of their homeworlds; both possess super-strength, flight, super-speed, heightened senses and the ability to cast energy blasts. But the crucial difference between them lies not only in how they view the world, but in how the world views them.
Superman is, and always has been, a symbol for truth, justice, and upstanding moral fortitude–a role model and leader as much as a fighter. The more down-to-earth Goku has no illusions about being responsible for maintaining social order, or for setting some kind of moral example for the entire world. Goku is simply a martial artist who’s devoted his life toward perfecting his fighting skills and other abilities. Though never shy about risking his life to save either one person or the entire world, he just doesn’t believe that the balance of the world rests in any way on his shoulders, and he has no need to shape any part of it in his image. Goku is an idealist, and believes that there is some good in everyone, but he is unconcerned with the big picture of the world…unless it has to do with some kind of fight. Politics, society, law and order don’t have much bearing on his life, but he’s a man who knows right from wrong.
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Well I took it as the Penguin Village in DB wasn't the same as Dr Slump's. Same people and persona's but different world.DBZGTKOSDH wrote:Penguin Village exists in the Dragon World, and all the villagers after the final Dr. Slump chapters were there, and the Dragon World map in the Daizenshuu has Penguin Village. Chozenshuu 4 states that Neko Majin takes place in a parallel world, but I'm not sure about what it says for Dr. Slump.TheGmGoken wrote:Isn't Arale's universe different from DB's?
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The fact that so many of you are taking this fight so seriously that you can't enjoy the gag awesomeness that is Arale disappoints me.
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That's veeeery different. Boo can't destroy the universe with ki blasts, he almost did that by screaming & breaking the dimension walls, that would cause the dimensions to mix together & destroy everything.RandomGuy96 wrote:Anime Buuhan nearly collapsed the universe in a rage. I might be wrong, but I'm pretty sure that's the best feat in Dragon Ball and probably ups anything Arale has done.
Daizenshuu states that Arale can split the Earth in 2 with a punch, so...TheGmGoken wrote:Well I took it as the Penguin Village in DB wasn't the same as Dr Slump's. Same people and persona's but different world.DBZGTKOSDH wrote:Penguin Village exists in the Dragon World, and all the villagers after the final Dr. Slump chapters were there, and the Dragon World map in the Daizenshuu has Penguin Village. Chozenshuu 4 states that Neko Majin takes place in a parallel world, but I'm not sure about what it says for Dr. Slump.TheGmGoken wrote:Isn't Arale's universe different from DB's?
James Teal (Animerica 1996) wrote:When you think about it, there are a number of similarities between the Chinese-inspired Son Goku and that most American of superhero icons, Superman. Both are aliens sent to Earth shortly after birth to escape the destruction of their homeworlds; both possess super-strength, flight, super-speed, heightened senses and the ability to cast energy blasts. But the crucial difference between them lies not only in how they view the world, but in how the world views them.
Superman is, and always has been, a symbol for truth, justice, and upstanding moral fortitude–a role model and leader as much as a fighter. The more down-to-earth Goku has no illusions about being responsible for maintaining social order, or for setting some kind of moral example for the entire world. Goku is simply a martial artist who’s devoted his life toward perfecting his fighting skills and other abilities. Though never shy about risking his life to save either one person or the entire world, he just doesn’t believe that the balance of the world rests in any way on his shoulders, and he has no need to shape any part of it in his image. Goku is an idealist, and believes that there is some good in everyone, but he is unconcerned with the big picture of the world…unless it has to do with some kind of fight. Politics, society, law and order don’t have much bearing on his life, but he’s a man who knows right from wrong.
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DB Arale and Slump Arale are two different beings. Slump Arale is at least stronger than the other androids. DB Arale is weaker than King Piccolo.
And has Arale ever done anything like destroy a star? Anyone stronger than Cell should be able to do that.
Still an impressive feat, to collapse reality on such a scale. And that's why I said "collapse" the universe rather than just blow it up.That's veeeery different. Boo can't destroy the universe with ki blasts, he almost did that by screaming & breaking the dimension walls, that would cause the dimensions to mix together & destroy everything.
And has Arale ever done anything like destroy a star? Anyone stronger than Cell should be able to do that.
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I find it funny that Buuhan had to go through a mental breakdown to break dimensional walls, yet Janemba did it simply by existing.
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Well, DB Arale can definitely split the Earth in two with a punch.RandomGuy96 wrote:DB Arale and Slump Arale are two different beings. Slump Arale is at least stronger than the other androids. DB Arale is weaker than King Piccolo.
Daizenshuu 7 wrote:A super-duper strong girl who Goku met in Penguin Village. She is actually a robot created by Dr. Norimaki Senbe, and her power is so great that she can cleave the Earth in two with one punch. She runs at mach 1.5, about the same as Kinto-Un.
James Teal (Animerica 1996) wrote:When you think about it, there are a number of similarities between the Chinese-inspired Son Goku and that most American of superhero icons, Superman. Both are aliens sent to Earth shortly after birth to escape the destruction of their homeworlds; both possess super-strength, flight, super-speed, heightened senses and the ability to cast energy blasts. But the crucial difference between them lies not only in how they view the world, but in how the world views them.
Superman is, and always has been, a symbol for truth, justice, and upstanding moral fortitude–a role model and leader as much as a fighter. The more down-to-earth Goku has no illusions about being responsible for maintaining social order, or for setting some kind of moral example for the entire world. Goku is simply a martial artist who’s devoted his life toward perfecting his fighting skills and other abilities. Though never shy about risking his life to save either one person or the entire world, he just doesn’t believe that the balance of the world rests in any way on his shoulders, and he has no need to shape any part of it in his image. Goku is an idealist, and believes that there is some good in everyone, but he is unconcerned with the big picture of the world…unless it has to do with some kind of fight. Politics, society, law and order don’t have much bearing on his life, but he’s a man who knows right from wrong.
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What Janemba was doing and what Buuhan were doing were very different. And besides, that's just a magical ability Janemba has (as evidenced by the fact he did this in his fat form), while Buuhan could collapse the universe with his ki.I find it funny that Buuhan had to go through a mental breakdown to break dimensional walls, yet Janemba did it simply by existing.
If it's at least as strong as Freeza, then where was it when King Piccolo took over the planet? Or when the saiyans attacked?Well, DB Arale can definitely split the Earth in two with a punch.
The Monkey King wrote:It was actually Beerus disguised as Zarbon #StayWokeRandomGuy96 wrote:He's probably referring to the Bardock special. Zarbon was the one who first recommended destroying Planet Vegeta because the saiyans were rapidly growing in strength.dbgtFO wrote: Please elaborate as I do not know what you mean by "pushing Vegeta's destruction"
Herms wrote:The fact that the ridiculous power inflation is presented so earnestly makes me just roll my eyes and snicker. Like with Freeza, where he starts off over 10 times stronger than all his henchmen except Ginyu (because...well, just because), then we find out he can transform and get even more powerful, and then he reveals he can transform two more times, before finally coming out with the fact that he hasn't even been using anywhere near 50% of his power. Oh, and he can survive in the vacuum of space. All this stuff is just presented as the way Freeza is, without even an attempt at rationalizing it, yet the tone dictates we're supposed to take all this silly grasping at straws as thrilling danger. So I guess I don't really take the power inflation in the Boo arc seriously, but I don't take the power inflation in earlier arcs seriously either, so there's no net loss of seriousness. I think a silly story presented as serious is harder to accept than a silly story presented as silly.
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Penguin Village is stated to be very distant to the rest of the world, and how should she know that bad guys are on Earth? She can't sense ki, she rarely goes outside the Penguin Village (space doesn't count), and she is stupid.RandomGuy96 wrote:If it's at least as strong as Freeza, then where was it when King Piccolo took over the planet? Or when the saiyans attacked?
James Teal (Animerica 1996) wrote:When you think about it, there are a number of similarities between the Chinese-inspired Son Goku and that most American of superhero icons, Superman. Both are aliens sent to Earth shortly after birth to escape the destruction of their homeworlds; both possess super-strength, flight, super-speed, heightened senses and the ability to cast energy blasts. But the crucial difference between them lies not only in how they view the world, but in how the world views them.
Superman is, and always has been, a symbol for truth, justice, and upstanding moral fortitude–a role model and leader as much as a fighter. The more down-to-earth Goku has no illusions about being responsible for maintaining social order, or for setting some kind of moral example for the entire world. Goku is simply a martial artist who’s devoted his life toward perfecting his fighting skills and other abilities. Though never shy about risking his life to save either one person or the entire world, he just doesn’t believe that the balance of the world rests in any way on his shoulders, and he has no need to shape any part of it in his image. Goku is an idealist, and believes that there is some good in everyone, but he is unconcerned with the big picture of the world…unless it has to do with some kind of fight. Politics, society, law and order don’t have much bearing on his life, but he’s a man who knows right from wrong.
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I don't find this gag funny. Not at all.Gyt Kaliba wrote:The fact that so many of you are taking this fight so seriously that you can't enjoy the gag awesomeness that is Arale disappoints me.
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I don't follow the Daizenshuu on all cases. Also if that's so hen either that's a info on Dr..Slump Arale or gag feats. I mean SSJ3 Goku did punch a hole in King Kai's planet. So I'm sure Birsu, SSJ3 Goku(FULL POWER), Whis, Rage Vegeta, SSG Goku, SSJ SSG GOKU, Base SSG Goku, Vegetto, and Some forms of Boo can break the Earth in half with a punchDaizenshuu states that Arale can split the Earth in 2 with a punch, so...
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Punching a hole a small planet is very different from splitting in two a big planet.TheGmGoken wrote:I don't follow the Daizenshuu on all cases. Also if that's so hen either that's a info on Dr..Slump Arale or gag feats. I mean SSJ3 Goku did punch a hole in King Kai's planet. So I'm sure Birsu, SSJ3 Goku(FULL POWER), Whis, Rage Vegeta, SSG Goku, SSJ SSG GOKU, Base SSG Goku, Vegetto, and Some forms of Boo can break the Earth in half with a punchDaizenshuu states that Arale can split the Earth in 2 with a punch, so...
James Teal (Animerica 1996) wrote:When you think about it, there are a number of similarities between the Chinese-inspired Son Goku and that most American of superhero icons, Superman. Both are aliens sent to Earth shortly after birth to escape the destruction of their homeworlds; both possess super-strength, flight, super-speed, heightened senses and the ability to cast energy blasts. But the crucial difference between them lies not only in how they view the world, but in how the world views them.
Superman is, and always has been, a symbol for truth, justice, and upstanding moral fortitude–a role model and leader as much as a fighter. The more down-to-earth Goku has no illusions about being responsible for maintaining social order, or for setting some kind of moral example for the entire world. Goku is simply a martial artist who’s devoted his life toward perfecting his fighting skills and other abilities. Though never shy about risking his life to save either one person or the entire world, he just doesn’t believe that the balance of the world rests in any way on his shoulders, and he has no need to shape any part of it in his image. Goku is an idealist, and believes that there is some good in everyone, but he is unconcerned with the big picture of the world…unless it has to do with some kind of fight. Politics, society, law and order don’t have much bearing on his life, but he’s a man who knows right from wrong.
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They can do a Karate Chop or just break the Earth completelyDBZGTKOSDH wrote:Punching a hole a small planet is very different from splitting in two a big planet.TheGmGoken wrote:I don't follow the Daizenshuu on all cases. Also if that's so hen either that's a info on Dr..Slump Arale or gag feats. I mean SSJ3 Goku did punch a hole in King Kai's planet. So I'm sure Birsu, SSJ3 Goku(FULL POWER), Whis, Rage Vegeta, SSG Goku, SSJ SSG GOKU, Base SSG Goku, Vegetto, and Some forms of Boo can break the Earth in half with a punchDaizenshuu states that Arale can split the Earth in 2 with a punch, so...
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... No, they can't. It doesn't make sense.
James Teal (Animerica 1996) wrote:When you think about it, there are a number of similarities between the Chinese-inspired Son Goku and that most American of superhero icons, Superman. Both are aliens sent to Earth shortly after birth to escape the destruction of their homeworlds; both possess super-strength, flight, super-speed, heightened senses and the ability to cast energy blasts. But the crucial difference between them lies not only in how they view the world, but in how the world views them.
Superman is, and always has been, a symbol for truth, justice, and upstanding moral fortitude–a role model and leader as much as a fighter. The more down-to-earth Goku has no illusions about being responsible for maintaining social order, or for setting some kind of moral example for the entire world. Goku is simply a martial artist who’s devoted his life toward perfecting his fighting skills and other abilities. Though never shy about risking his life to save either one person or the entire world, he just doesn’t believe that the balance of the world rests in any way on his shoulders, and he has no need to shape any part of it in his image. Goku is an idealist, and believes that there is some good in everyone, but he is unconcerned with the big picture of the world…unless it has to do with some kind of fight. Politics, society, law and order don’t have much bearing on his life, but he’s a man who knows right from wrong.
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Since when did Dbz make sense? Since when did destroying planets make since. Since when did Dr.Slump make sense? They can just jump in the air(In space maybe) and karate chop the Earth. If they punch(Vegetto SSj3, Birsu, SSG, or Whis) with FULL POWER I'm sure they can destroy a planet by breaking it like it's a chip.DBZGTKOSDH wrote:... No, they can't. It doesn't make sense.
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Dr. Slump is a pure gag manga, it's not supposed to make sense, it doesn't have to make sense, and it doesn't make sense.TheGmGoken wrote:Since when did Dbz make sense? Since when did destroying planets make since. Since when did Dr.Slump make sense? They can just jump in the air(In space maybe) and karate chop the Earth. If they punch(Vegetto SSj3, Birsu, SSG, or Whis) with FULL POWER I'm sure they can destroy a planet by breaking it like it's a chip.
Dragon Ball on the other hand, while it has gags, and it did have illogical gags in the first arc, is more realistic (if we ignore some physics things). It has explanations in the manga/anime & guidebooks about how ki works, why the characters are so strong thanks to ki, how it can be manipulated, etc. Destroying planets in DB does make sense, because the ki blasts are powerful enough to make the core of a planet explode, destroying the planet. Arale destroying a planet with a punch on the other hand doesn't make any sense, but it doesn't have to, since she is purely a gag character from a gag village full of gag characters, gag technology, gag physics, and gag nature.
James Teal (Animerica 1996) wrote:When you think about it, there are a number of similarities between the Chinese-inspired Son Goku and that most American of superhero icons, Superman. Both are aliens sent to Earth shortly after birth to escape the destruction of their homeworlds; both possess super-strength, flight, super-speed, heightened senses and the ability to cast energy blasts. But the crucial difference between them lies not only in how they view the world, but in how the world views them.
Superman is, and always has been, a symbol for truth, justice, and upstanding moral fortitude–a role model and leader as much as a fighter. The more down-to-earth Goku has no illusions about being responsible for maintaining social order, or for setting some kind of moral example for the entire world. Goku is simply a martial artist who’s devoted his life toward perfecting his fighting skills and other abilities. Though never shy about risking his life to save either one person or the entire world, he just doesn’t believe that the balance of the world rests in any way on his shoulders, and he has no need to shape any part of it in his image. Goku is an idealist, and believes that there is some good in everyone, but he is unconcerned with the big picture of the world…unless it has to do with some kind of fight. Politics, society, law and order don’t have much bearing on his life, but he’s a man who knows right from wrong.
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Only a Gag can physically defeat another defeat Gag.
Why Dragon Ball Consistency in something such as power levels matter!
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I just said that lol.DBZGTKOSDH wrote:Dr. Slump is a pure gag manga, it's not supposed to make sense, it doesn't have to make sense, and it doesn't make sense.TheGmGoken wrote:Since when did Dbz make sense? Since when did destroying planets make since. Since when did Dr.Slump make sense? They can just jump in the air(In space maybe) and karate chop the Earth. If they punch(Vegetto SSj3, Birsu, SSG, or Whis) with FULL POWER I'm sure they can destroy a planet by breaking it like it's a chip.
Dragon Ball on the other hand, while it has gags, and it did have illogical gags in the first arc, is more realistic (if we ignore some physics things). It has explanations in the manga/anime & guidebooks about how ki works, why the characters are so strong thanks to ki, how it can be manipulated, etc. Destroying planets in DB does make sense, because the ki blasts are powerful enough to make the core of a planet explode, destroying the planet. Arale destroying a planet with a punch on the other hand doesn't make any sense, but it doesn't have to, since she is purely a gag character from a gag village full of gag characters, gag technology, gag physics, and gag nature.
Ki doesn't have a real explanation. Also that's what I'm saying. Arale feats are gag feats. Which should't be taken seriously. Especially since the only thing that can match gag feats is gag feats himself. Satan vs Arale would be fight of the year
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THIS is what I meant with my last post...RandomGuy96 wrote:DB Arale and Slump Arale are two different beings. Slump Arale is at least stronger than the other androids. DB Arale is weaker than King Piccolo.
