BOG inconsistencies/changes

[bleed0range]

Gohan was drunk, even if he was more powerful... it's not enough to fight off Beers/bills and considering he was out of it in the first place because he was drunk, it probably affected his fighting and power even more so.

I am confident Beers is only hit by Vegeta because he is surprised by his sudden outburst regarding Bulma and there IS a good side to Beers, so he probably let him have a few blows before saying "nope... you're still nothing."

Beers toys with how powerful he is or isn't constantly. SSJ God was the only actual form that gave him any real challenge and the only time he put up a true fight.

[Saiga]

If Goku requires to use a ki as an anchor, then I wonder if it's possible he can just use his OWN ki as an anchor, thus allowing him to move shorter distances.

That might actually be what he does when he teleports away from one of Pure Boo's attacks, but remains in the same place (charging the Genki Dama).

[CashmanX]

High Speed Combat

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Slightly offtopic, but I dearly miss the sense of speed the characters had back then. They seem so slow now....


Anyway, one of the things I would change is some of the characters appearances. Why doesn't Gyumao have any grey hair? Shouldn't he be at least 60-70 years old by now?

[MDSTSSJ]

High Speed Combat

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Slightly offtopic, but I dearly miss the sense of speed the characters had back then. They seem so slow now....

I agree with you! That's one of the main reasons that Perfect Cell vs FPSSJ Kakarotto fight is my favorite! Pure Boo vs SSJ3 Goku is sometimes fast too!

[aarondirebear]

High Speed Combat

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Slightly offtopic, but I dearly miss the sense of speed the characters had back then. They seem so slow now....


Anyway, one of the things I would change is some of the characters appearances. Why doesn't Gyumao have any grey hair? Shouldn't he be at least 60-70 years old by now?

Videl has visibly aged as far as "anime aging" is concerned. Goten and Trunks will likely remain at the same height and go through a growth spurt some time between 15 and 18 just like Goku and Gohan did. But honestly I'm not too worried about aging characters every time they have a 3-5 year time skip...its a lot of micromanaging.

As far as actual inconsistencies are concerned, I am a bit concerned at the inclusion of a reference to Vegeta's brother because if the special is canon then all of the glaring plot holes from THAT special taint THIS movie as far as canon goes (not the least of which was Vegeta's certainty that only 4 pure-blooded Saiya-jin survived the destruction of Vegetasei, and the apparant age gap that suggests that Table was born after the planet was blown up. I mean they had to resort to a low class warrior's wayward son to get reinforcements, when there was a perfectly good royal blooded one running around? This is the kind of stuff that continuity editors need to be cognizant of)

That having been said, its possible that the reference to a brother could refer to a completely different character altogether. If that is the case, then it's kosher as far as I'm concerned.

[TheDevilsCorpse]

As far as actual inconsistencies are concerned, I am a bit concerned at the inclusion of a reference to Vegeta's brother because if the special is canon then all of the glaring plot holes from THAT special taint THIS movie as far as canon goes (not the least of which was Vegeta's certainty that only 4 pure-blooded Saiya-jin survived the destruction of Vegetasei, and the apparant age gap that suggests that Table was born after the planet was blown up. I mean they had to resort to a low class warrior's wayward son to get reinforcements, when there was a perfectly good royal blooded one running around? This is the kind of stuff that continuity editors need to be cognizant of).

None of those are a problem unless you want to get super nitpicky.

-Tarble was exiled from planet Vegeta. Vegeta being as proud as he was when he first appeared, it's not a stretch to assume something like this was running through his mind: "Tarble isn't fit to share my royal blood. I have no brother. He's not even worthy to be called a Saiyan. Weak as he was, he probably didn't last a day on whatever rock they sent him to anyway."

-As for Tarble's age, what suggests anything about him being born post destruction? It's not like he's an actual kid, as we know, Saiyans retain their youth for an extremely extended period of time. He's just happens to be extremely short.

[KentalSSJ6]

Basically when it comes to Saiyans, Tarble is the race's Krillin.

Also, 1,000th post baby!

[goku the krump dancer]

Krillin was actually competent as a fighter up until the fight with Freeza where every villain at that point and forward on into the story was dimensions above the hopeless romantic which thus deemed him "useless".

Tarble however, was a whus from birth.

[Gyt Kaliba]

Basically when it comes to Saiyans, Tarble is the race's Krillin.

So Tarble is actually pretty badass and just doesn't get the respect he deserves because he's outshined by everyone else around him so often? Huh, you think you know a guy, but...

[DBZGTKOSDH]

Basically when it comes to Saiyans, Tarble is the race's Krillin.

Wait, Tarble is the strongest Saiyan?!

[aarondirebear]

As far as actual inconsistencies are concerned, I am a bit concerned at the inclusion of a reference to Vegeta's brother because if the special is canon then all of the glaring plot holes from THAT special taint THIS movie as far as canon goes (not the least of which was Vegeta's certainty that only 4 pure-blooded Saiya-jin survived the destruction of Vegetasei, and the apparant age gap that suggests that Table was born after the planet was blown up. I mean they had to resort to a low class warrior's wayward son to get reinforcements, when there was a perfectly good royal blooded one running around? This is the kind of stuff that continuity editors need to be cognizant of).

None of those are a problem unless you want to get super nitpicky.

-Tarble was exiled from planet Vegeta. Vegeta being as proud as he was when he first appeared, it's not a stretch to assume something like this was running through his mind: "Tarble isn't fit to share my royal blood. I have no brother. He's not even worthy to be called a Saiyan. Weak as he was, he probably didn't last a day on whatever rock they sent him to anyway."

-As for Tarble's age, what suggests anything about him being born post destruction? It's not like he's an actual kid, as we know, Saiyans retain their youth for an extremely extended period of time. He's just happens to be extremely short.

They stay at their PRIMES for an extended period of time.

[RandomGuy96]

Basically when it comes to Saiyans, Tarble is the race's Krillin.

You mean Tarble is stronger than Goku, and can totally wipe the floor with all the saiyans at once, yet fanboys insist he isn't and that Toriyama is senile?

[KentalSSJ6]

Basically when it comes to Saiyans, Tarble is the race's Krillin.

You mean Tarble is stronger than Goku, and can totally wipe the floor with all the saiyans at once, yet fanboys insist he isn't and that Toriyama is senile?

Sure, lets go with that.

[TheDevilsCorpse]

They stay at their PRIMES for an extended period of time.

You're arguing semantics here, but if that's the point you're picking to debate out of the whole post, then most information chooses to use "youth" (below). This seems like the better choice because they also tend to remain fairly young looking in their early years for an extended period of time as well; Goku remained almost the size of Oolong until he was at least 15.

Growth
In order to fight, their youth is long.
In order to win in battle, they have evolved to have a long youth, when physical strength is greatest. Their lifespan is about the same as that of an Earthling.

Saiyan aging
Next Toriyama is asked whether Saiyans are always young. As a fighting race they stay young for a long time in order to maintain their power, but Toriyama explains that their actual lifespan isn’t much different than Earthlings, and they quickly deteriorate after a certain age. Toriyama adds that Saiyan hair style still changes with age, and that Nappa went bald. Like with Earthlings, hair composition various from person to person.

Once they hit adulthood, in-universe, their physical appearance never changes over the course of the story that we see (without a transformation) and they do remain in their prime for most of the rest of their life. We know this because there are plenty of times where Bluma and Chi Chi complain about it seeming like Goku and Vegeta never age in comparison to them. That said, Tarble is not like the other Saiyans. He is a scrawny runt not suited for fighting. It's honestly not that hard to believe he's an adult; especially when looking at Kuririn, who I think is actually shorter than Tarble in the special.

[Karrit]

I watched BoG last night. One thing that stood out to me is Bulma saying she as 38. She should 45 if this takes place five years after Kid Buu died. Of course that could easily be explained by Bulma lying about her true age since some women do that.

[TheGmGoken]

I watched BoG last night. One thing that stood out to me is Bulma saying she as 38. She should 45 if this takes place five years after Kid Buu died. Of course that could eadilly be explained by Bulma lying about her true age since some women do that.

Or she asked Shenron-Shenlong to be younger

[DBZGTKOSDH]

I found another error from Toei's part. Toriyama drew both base & God Goku with red ribbons in his boots.




But while Toei kept the red ribbons for Super Saiyan God, they didn't keep them for Goku's other forms...

[TheMightyOzaru]

Gohan was drunk, even if he was more powerful... it's not enough to fight off Beers/bills and considering he was out of it in the first place because he was drunk, it probably affected his fighting and power even more so.

Wow, I never even considered the fact that Gohan was intoxicated . That actually makes things fit a lot better.

[KentalSSJ6]

Gohan was drunk, even if he was more powerful... it's not enough to fight off Beers/bills and considering he was out of it in the first place because he was drunk, it probably affected his fighting and power even more so.

Wow, I never even considered the fact that Gohan was intoxicated . That actually makes things fit a lot better.

I think we all know how Gohan is when hes drunk if you take Dead Zone into account.

[Gyt Kaliba]

Gohan was drunk, even if he was more powerful... it's not enough to fight off Beers/bills and considering he was out of it in the first place because he was drunk, it probably affected his fighting and power even more so.

Wow, I never even considered the fact that Gohan was intoxicated . That actually makes things fit a lot better.

I think we all know how Gohan is when hes drunk if you take Dead Zone into account.

Kuririn's lucky he didn't get peed on again.