Would an unconscious/dead Oozaru revert?

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Would an unconscious/dead Oozaru revert?

Post by Saiga » Sun Sep 29, 2013 3:14 am

So we know that is a Super Saiyan is killed or rendered unconscious, they'll drop out of the Super Saiyan form. But is the same true for Oozaru? What do you think?
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Re: Would an unconscious/dead Oozaru revert?

Post by KentalSSJ6 » Sun Sep 29, 2013 3:21 am

Saiga wrote:So we know that is a Super Saiyan is killed or rendered unconscious, they'll drop out of the Super Saiyan form. But is the same true for Oozaru? What do you think?
Possibly? I more curious as to if a Saiyan who obtains SSJ4 is forced into the form at a full moon or if the moon stops effecting them after getting SSJ4.
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Re: Would an unconscious/dead Oozaru revert?

Post by Kid Buu » Sun Sep 29, 2013 3:24 am

In GT Bebi-Vegeta did not revert while he was unconscious until Goku blew off his tail.
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Re: Would an unconscious/dead Oozaru revert?

Post by Z-Dragon » Sun Sep 29, 2013 3:54 am

^Like Kid Buu said, an Oozaru can't revert back to normal, not even he/she becomes unconscious unless they need to cut off their tails.

As for Oozarus reverting back to normal if they're dead, they probably can't revert themselves so they're stuck in Oozaru form unless their dead bodies can wait for the morning to make them revert or cut off their tails to revert them back.

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Re: Would an unconscious/dead Oozaru revert?

Post by Saiga » Sun Sep 29, 2013 4:01 am

Kid Buu wrote:In GT Bebi-Vegeta did not revert while he was unconscious until Goku blew off his tail.
Yeah, I remembered that, but I was thinking outside of GT.
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Re: Would an unconscious/dead Oozaru revert?

Post by hleV » Sun Sep 29, 2013 6:02 am

Hard to tell, really. I think they'd definitely revert eventually, but whether Saiyans need a conscious or even alive body to react to the moon is unclear. Sure, an unconscious/dead Saiyan probably wouldn't turn into an Ozaru as one must look at the moon first (unless they died with eyes open and that counts as looking?), but would they revert from Ozaru, I don't know. If not, then they should revert when the moon goes away, at least.

But I say yes. I can easily imagine a knocked out/killed Ozaru instantly reverting, had it happened in the original series.

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Re: Would an unconscious/dead Oozaru revert?

Post by DBZGTKOSDH » Sun Sep 29, 2013 7:16 am

I guess that an unconscious Oozaru won't revert, but a dead one will revert.
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Re: Would an unconscious/dead Oozaru revert?

Post by Saiga » Sun Sep 29, 2013 7:35 am

DBZGTKOSDH wrote:I guess that an unconscious Oozaru won't revert, but a dead one will revert.
This was what I was (tentatively) thinking. I think the difference between Super Saiyan and Oozaru is that it doesn't appear to take any conscious effort on a Saiyan's part to maintain the Oozaru transformation, and so knocking them doesn't disturb anything. Also, they can't see the moon, but Saiyans must have some other way of absorbing the Bruits Waves after the transformation or they'd revert just from not looking at it, so being passed out shouldn't affect that either.

Yet I don't see a dead Oozaru staying in the form, for some reason. I guess the tail would stop functioning, and they that to maintain the form.

hlev Interesting to think about a Saiyan being dead/unconscious but having their eyes open. I wouldn't be surprised if an unconscious Saiyan could transform as long as their eyes absorbed the Bruits Waves.
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Re: Would an unconscious/dead Oozaru revert?

Post by TheGmGoken » Sun Sep 29, 2013 10:39 am

I wonder if a Saiyan turns SSJ4(If they already have it) if they just so happens to be in the SSJ form while the full moon is out. Also I think if they're dead they become someone of a half ape and half saiyan type of thing. Like they become the size of a Saiyan but still have the ape qualities(Like the fur). Then once the moon is gone they revert back to normal.

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Re: Would an unconscious/dead Oozaru revert?

Post by Dark Red Z » Wed Oct 02, 2013 5:55 pm

They'd only revert if the condition that made them huge in the first place is no more. AKA the tail or the moon, whichever goes first.

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Re: Would an unconscious/dead Oozaru revert?

Post by rereboy » Wed Oct 02, 2013 7:37 pm

If they are dead, I don't see how they would revert. If they died, their body should be incapable of reacting to anything at all. It just ceased to function.

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Re: Would an unconscious/dead Oozaru revert?

Post by TheGmGoken » Wed Oct 02, 2013 7:39 pm

rereboy wrote:If they are dead, I don't see how they would revert. If they died, their body should be incapable of reacting to anything at all. It just ceased to function.
Don't your brain or something like that remain active for 10 - 3 minutes after you die or am I thinking of something else?

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Re: Would an unconscious/dead Oozaru revert?

Post by goku the krump dancer » Wed Oct 02, 2013 7:54 pm

How creepy would it be if Raditz had died lying on his back with his eyes open and his decaying body turning into a Giant Ape on the night of a full moon.. :wtf:

Though I doubt a dead body could react to blutz/brutes waves or whatever its called.
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Re: Would an unconscious/dead Oozaru revert?

Post by rereboy » Wed Oct 02, 2013 7:55 pm

TheGmGoken wrote:
rereboy wrote:If they are dead, I don't see how they would revert. If they died, their body should be incapable of reacting to anything at all. It just ceased to function.
Don't your brain or something like that remain active for 10 - 3 minutes after you die or am I thinking of something else?
That's like your body still being warm a minute after you died. Its only remnants of life. The body would have to be alive to actually undergo a process like reverting to a human form or whatever.

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Re: Would an unconscious/dead Oozaru revert?

Post by TheGmGoken » Wed Oct 02, 2013 8:13 pm

rereboy wrote:
TheGmGoken wrote:
rereboy wrote:If they are dead, I don't see how they would revert. If they died, their body should be incapable of reacting to anything at all. It just ceased to function.
Don't your brain or something like that remain active for 10 - 3 minutes after you die or am I thinking of something else?
That's like your body still being warm a minute after you died. Its only remnants of life. The body would have to be alive to actually undergo a process like reverting to a human form or whatever.
Or they slowly change back. DB not exactly 100% Science facts. Even though it was a gag didn't Goku revert from being tired in Dr.Slump?

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Re: Would an unconscious/dead Oozaru revert?

Post by rereboy » Thu Oct 03, 2013 6:58 am

TheGmGoken wrote: Or they slowly change back. DB not exactly 100% Science facts. Even though it was a gag didn't Goku revert from being tired in Dr.Slump?
Without anything from the manga/series to go on, the best logical assumption is one from common sense and real world logic.

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Re: Would an unconscious/dead Oozaru revert?

Post by TonyTheTiger » Fri Oct 04, 2013 6:50 pm

If they revert back the instant the moon is destroyed then that should mean that they'd revert back once their body is no longer receiving/processing the blutz waves it gives off. And since they have to actually look at the moon, I imagine they have to be conscious for the transformation to work. And if they revert once the source is destroyed then it probably means that their bodies need to process a steady flow of blutz waves in order to maintain the state. If it takes a continuous biological process to stay transformed then once those processes cease they should revert.

Adding together that they have to look at the moon to transform in the first place and immediately revert once that moon is destroyed then I figure they'd always change back when unconscious. Now, why they don't immediately change back once they stop actually staring at the moon or get shot in the eye, that's just convenient storytelling at work. Maybe the eyes have to receive the initial burst and then that "turns on" the tail which will then continuously accept the waves independent of the eyes.

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