Bills or Beers? Which one sounds better?

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Re: Bills or Beers? Which one sounds better?

Post by AlphaLhyan » Sat Sep 28, 2013 1:08 am

Puto wrote:Birus because there's no long i in the name, unlike the english word Beer (Beer in katakana is 'biiru'; the guy's name in katakana is 'birusu').

And people use Bills mostly because that's what the Dragon Ball Wikia uses for whatever inane reason.
But Birus dont make any sense anymore because the whole Virus explanation was thrown out the window the lizard concept so going with that one wold be just as wrong as Bills in my opinion

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Post by The Time Traveller » Sat Sep 28, 2013 2:23 am

Spelling the name Birus might make people pronounce it like virus too, which is wrong. What ever though, American fans of the Japanese version pronounce Mr. Satan as Mr. Satan, which is CRAZY.

Beerus could have a short I sound, just so long as no one's saying Beer like the Australians from the Simpsons.

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Re: Bills or Beers? Which one sounds better?

Post by DragonBoxZTheMovies » Sat Sep 28, 2013 2:25 am

AlphaLhyan wrote:
Puto wrote:Birus because there's no long i in the name, unlike the english word Beer (Beer in katakana is 'biiru'; the guy's name in katakana is 'birusu').

And people use Bills mostly because that's what the Dragon Ball Wikia uses for whatever inane reason.
But Birus dont make any sense anymore because the whole Virus explanation was thrown out the window the lizard concept so going with that one wold be just as wrong as Bills in my opinion
Eh, I wouldn't go as far as saying "Birus" is just as wrong as "Bills". It's still what Yusuke Watanabe had in mind when he named the character. "Bills" pretty much comes out of no where.

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Re: Bills or Beers? Which one sounds better?

Post by AlphaLhyan » Sat Sep 28, 2013 2:35 am

The Time Traveller wrote:Spelling the name Birus might make people pronounce it like virus too, which is wrong. What ever though, American fans of the Japanese version pronounce Mr. Satan as Mr. Satan, which is CRAZY.

Beerus could have a short I sound, just so long as no one's saying Beer like the Australians from the Simpsons.

Beeeeeer?
so Beers isnt pronounced Beers---like the plural of beer? which still sounds funny and in a sense its a different word entirely but still would slightly sound like bills when said aloud if you don't really listen to the pronunciation thoroughly if you guys know what i mean..i dont know if i explained that good at all lol

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Re: Bills or Beers? Which one sounds better?

Post by DBZGTKOSDH » Sat Sep 28, 2013 6:58 am

DragonBoxZTheMovies wrote:What I'd like to know is how "Bills" became the most widely used spelling in the English-speaking fandom. I've seen all sorts of spelling for Whis also, but luckily none of them seem to have stuck.
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Re: Bills or Beers? Which one sounds better?

Post by B » Sat Sep 28, 2013 12:45 pm

"BILLS" was used on official merchandise for the movie. If you're willing to dig through that monster BoG thread, there's at least half a page about it.
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Re: Bills or Beers? Which one sounds better?

Post by Rukura » Sat Sep 28, 2013 2:13 pm

B wrote:"BILLS" was used on official merchandise for the movie. If you're willing to dig through that monster BoG thread, there's at least half a page about it.
There's a poster, that you can find on Kanzenshuu's Facebook page, of Gogeta with that name spelled as "Gozita". Should we defend that as well? (Or we can also start digging for poor romanizations on official merch, that's cool too)
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Post by tinlunlau » Sat Sep 28, 2013 2:26 pm

Neither.
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Post by tinlunlau » Sat Sep 28, 2013 2:28 pm

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B wrote:"BILLS" was used on official merchandise for the movie. If you're willing to dig through that monster BoG thread, there's at least half a page about it.
There's a poster, that you can find on Kanzenshuu's Facebook page, of Gogeta with that name spelled as "Gozita". Should we defend that as well? (Or we can also start digging for poor romanizations on official merch, that's cool too)
I have that poster.
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Re: Bills or Beers? Which one sounds better?

Post by B » Sat Sep 28, 2013 6:33 pm

Rukura wrote:
B wrote:"BILLS" was used on official merchandise for the movie. If you're willing to dig through that monster BoG thread, there's at least half a page about it.
There's a poster, that you can find on Kanzenshuu's Facebook page, of Gogeta with that name spelled as "Gozita". Should we defend that as well? (Or we can also start digging for poor romanizations on official merch, that's cool too)
Except the point was DB Wiki didn't pull it out of their ass; they(apparently) got it from Japan who pulled it out of Japan's ass. I didn't know DB Wiki used "BILLS" because who the fuck would go to DB Wiki more than once if they've been to Kanzenshuu?
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Post by Metalwario64 » Sat Sep 28, 2013 7:25 pm

B wrote:
Rukura wrote:
B wrote:"BILLS" was used on official merchandise for the movie. If you're willing to dig through that monster BoG thread, there's at least half a page about it.
There's a poster, that you can find on Kanzenshuu's Facebook page, of Gogeta with that name spelled as "Gozita". Should we defend that as well? (Or we can also start digging for poor romanizations on official merch, that's cool too)
Except the point was DB Wiki didn't pull it out of their ass; they(apparently) got it from Japan who pulled it out of Japan's ass.
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Re: Bills or Beers? Which one sounds better?

Post by KingofWisdom » Sun Sep 29, 2013 5:32 am

Beers. I'm a snob, so I dislike seeing the name written as "Bills". The risk of seeing it written that way is one of the reasons I don't want to check out fan-written English subtitles for the movie. It bothers me enough that I think Kanzenshuu's summary of the movie can hold me over until FUNimation's release. "Beerus" is my favorite spelling, though.
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Re: Bills or Beers? Which one sounds better?

Post by KentalSSJ6 » Sun Sep 29, 2013 5:52 am

So the DB Wiki has Bill's english actor as Jason Douglas, who did King Cold in DBZ Kai. Anyone care and/or able to confirm because I thought it was Troy Baker going off what I heard in the Battle of Z trailer.
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Re: Bills or Beers? Which one sounds better?

Post by KingofWisdom » Sun Sep 29, 2013 5:56 am

The trailer isn't enough for me to make a guess, but Jason Douglas sounds about right. Doesn't sound like Troy Baker to me.
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Post by Ajay » Sun Sep 29, 2013 10:34 am

KentalSSJ6 wrote:I thought it was Troy Baker going off what I heard in the Battle of Z trailer.
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Re: Bills or Beers? Which one sounds better?

Post by TheGmGoken » Sun Sep 29, 2013 11:20 am

Bills - Sounds basic. Fits the whole don;t judge a book by it cover thing but just sounds o basic.
Birsu - Sounds badass
Beers - Sounds weird.
Beerus - Sounds like a legit addition.

I don't know why. But I can't calling Beerus/Birsu..... Birshu

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Re: Bills or Beers? Which one sounds better?

Post by Fizzer » Sun Sep 29, 2013 1:02 pm

Bills sounds like crap, just makes me think of the name "Bill" and doesn't fit either pun. Beers is better, but I like Birus, pronounced like Beerus. It fits both puns.

Whis is also by far my preferred spelling over Uisu, Wiss, etc.

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Re: Bills or Beers? Which one sounds better?

Post by Rukura » Sun Sep 29, 2013 2:00 pm

Here's the thing. In an ideal world, where every Dragon Ball fan likes to dig into the original version and know where the names come from and how they should be pronounced, "Berus" would probably be the perfect spelling. You lose the extended "i" from "beer", so you drop an "e", you keep the "virus" part of it, awesome. The problem is that nobody new to the name would pronounce it correctly as "Beerus".

Beerus is needed to keep both puns integrated. I like "Bills" about as much as I like paying them - I don't.
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Re: Bills or Beers? Which one sounds better?

Post by AlphaLhyan » Sun Sep 29, 2013 4:42 pm

But thats the thing.....I'm trying to figure out what actually sounds better off the tongue, Beerus, Birus, they look good spelled out

But what about when being said, (Bee-rus) (Bi--rus) they sound weird being said aloud in English

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Re: Bills or Beers? Which one sounds better?

Post by dbzfan7 » Sun Sep 29, 2013 5:17 pm

Bills makes me think the name has to do with payments you get at the end of the month.
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