The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

[RandomGuy96]

SS3 Gohan gets fucking slaughtered.

Ultimate Gohan slaughters. All versions of Gohan would be just as strong in the form. If they aren't and it's just a straight multiplier, Future Gohan would lose to SPC, or even maybe Perfect Cell.

[TheMightyOzaru]

here's the thing. Gohan cannot be stronger than his father when he arrived on Earth and killed Freeza. That much we know because Gohan explicitly says he wishes to be as strong as his dad. Where you have Goku at that point is up to you I suppose, but he most likely has a BP lower than 200,000,000. If we take the SSJ3 multiplier and apply it to that number, SSJ3 Gohan's BP has to be lower than 1,600,000,000. I don't see how Perfect Cell's BP can be that low.

[Kid Buu]

Gohan loses because no one is there to hold his hand.

[rereboy]

here's the thing. Gohan cannot be stronger than his father when he arrived on Earth and killed Freeza. That much we know because Gohan explicitly says he wishes to be as strong as his dad. Where you have Goku at that point is up to you I suppose, but he most likely has a BP lower than 200,000,000. If we take the SSJ3 multiplier and apply it to that number, SSJ3 Gohan's BP has to be lower than 1,600,000,000. I don't see how Perfect Cell's BP can be that low.

He could just be overestimating his father's power. He was still a boy when he died and he probably regarded him as an incredible hero. Gohan however, has only know defeat. In that situation, its easy for him to overestimate his father's power and underestimate his own.

[TheGmGoken]

here's the thing. Gohan cannot be stronger than his father when he arrived on Earth and killed Freeza. That much we know because Gohan explicitly says he wishes to be as strong as his dad. Where you have Goku at that point is up to you I suppose, but he most likely has a BP lower than 200,000,000. If we take the SSJ3 multiplier and apply it to that number, SSJ3 Gohan's BP has to be lower than 1,600,000,000. I don't see how Perfect Cell's BP can be that low.

He could just be overestimating his father's power. He was still a boy when he died and he probably regarded him as an incredible hero. Gohan however, has only know defeat. In that situation, its easy for him to overestimate his father's power and underestimate his own.

But Trunks as more or less equal to Namek Goku when Trunks arrived to fight Freeza. I'm pretty sure at that point Trunks is about equal or stronger than Future Gohan. So Gohan can't be stronger than Goku

[TheMightyOzaru]

here's the thing. Gohan cannot be stronger than his father when he arrived on Earth and killed Freeza. That much we know because Gohan explicitly says he wishes to be as strong as his dad. Where you have Goku at that point is up to you I suppose, but he most likely has a BP lower than 200,000,000. If we take the SSJ3 multiplier and apply it to that number, SSJ3 Gohan's BP has to be lower than 1,600,000,000. I don't see how Perfect Cell's BP can be that low.

He could just be overestimating his father's power. He was still a boy when he died and he probably regarded him as an incredible hero. Gohan however, has only know defeat. In that situation, its easy for him to overestimate his father's power and underestimate his own.

Ok, even assuming that, his BP would still be lower than Perfect Cell's as a SSJ3.

[dbzfan7]

SSJ3 Future Gohan loses badly. His base is lower than Yardrat Goku and possibly Namek for some people.

For the Future Ultimate Gohan it depends on how you personally believe in how his dormant power works. If you believe that Gohan's dormant power was always at the level the Elder Kaioshin brought out, then he would stomp Fat Boo into paste. If you believe his dormant power grew over time and that Gohan would have less dormant power at a younger age, then it could go either way.

[rereboy]

Well, since the difference between SSJ3 and SSJ2 is x4, Future Gohan would have to be more than 4 times weaker compared to Cell games Gohan for not to be able to win against Cell. So it all depends on our answer to that question.

[TheGmGoken]

Well, since the difference between SSJ3 and SSJ2 is x4, Future Gohan would have to be more than 4 times weaker compared to Cell games Gohan for not to be able to win against Cell. So it all depends on our answer to that question.

Future Gohan is weaker than Goku(Yadrat). 4 million x 4 is 16,000,000. So Honestly he would be weaker than CG Gohan by more than 4 times. I have CG Gohan at 30,000,000.

[TheMightyOzaru]

I have Cell Games Gohan at 60,000,000.

[TheGmGoken]

I have Cell Games Gohan at 60,000,000.

That's even worst for Future Gohan

[TheMightyOzaru]

I have Cell Games Gohan at 60,000,000.

That's even worst for Future Gohan

Yup.

[Saiga]

Yeah, I don't see Future Gohan putting up a fight with SS3 at all. I also think that one's dormant power may be dependant on their current level of power (like, as you grow stronger, you accumulate more dormant power) so Future Gohan probably wouldn't defeat Fat Boo either.

[ZombieVito]

SSJ3 Future Gohan could match MSSJ Gohan but once Cell goes FP, it's over.

[Kaboom]

Yeah, just with some very basic number-fiddling, Super Saiyan 3 would only get Future Gohan up to around the power range of extra-suppressed Perfect Cell and Super Vegeta. Super Saiyan Gohan during the Cell Games is MUCH stronger than that, possibly several times as much. SSJ3 Future Gohan gets beaten pretty easily.

As for "Ultimate" Future Gohan against Majin Boo... hard to tell. In general, I think one's dormant power is something that grows along with them as time goes on and their "surface power" increases. So a much stronger Boo-arc Gohan would have a helluva lot more dormant power to tap into than the much-weaker Future Gohan. But how MUCH more dormant power, we can't say for sure. Boo-arc Gohan ended up far superior to Fat Boo, so "Ultimate" Future Gohan might, just MIGHT, end up equivalent to Fat Boo and able to take him on.

[Rocketman]

Future Gohan is about ten years older than Buu arc Gohan, though.

[TheMightyOzaru]

Future Gohan is about ten years older than Buu arc Gohan, though.

And...?

[Rocketman]

So if his dormant power grows over time, Future Gohan would have more than Buu Arc Gohan.

[TheMightyOzaru]

It grows as you grow in power. It has nothing to do with age.

[Cursed Lemon]

What exactly are we assuming is the basis for reaching the level of SSJ3?

Obviously not all saiyans are the same strength at a particular level of super saiyan, but SSJ3 is a HUGE amount of power, and SSJ2 Gohan completely outclassed even Super Perfect Cell in every possible way.

And it's not like Future Gohan is a slouch like Buu Arc Gohan. Minus the whole missing-an-arm thing.