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Re: Dragon Ball Heroes

Post by DBZGTKOSDH » Thu Oct 03, 2013 11:18 am

JeffJarrett wrote: Eis Shenron's transformation.
Isn't him the San Xing Long (3-star)? Because he doesn't transform.
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Re: Dragon Ball Heroes

Post by JeffJarrett » Thu Oct 03, 2013 1:27 pm

DBZGTKOSDH wrote:Isn't him the San Xing Long (3-star)? Because he doesn't transform.
Some fans thinks he changed between his appearance when he knocked out Pan and when he later appeared to face Goku. Some think he didn't.
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Re: Dragon Ball Heroes

Post by DBZGTKOSDH » Thu Oct 03, 2013 1:45 pm

JeffJarrett wrote:
DBZGTKOSDH wrote:Isn't him the San Xing Long (3-star)? Because he doesn't transform.
Some fans thinks he changed between his appearance when he knocked out Pan and when he later appeared to face Goku. Some think he didn't.
Assumption. San Xing Long doesn't transform officially from what we know.
James Teal (Animerica 1996) wrote:When you think about it, there are a number of similarities between the Chinese-inspired Son Goku and that most American of superhero icons, Superman. Both are aliens sent to Earth shortly after birth to escape the destruction of their homeworlds; both possess super-strength, flight, super-speed, heightened senses and the ability to cast energy blasts. But the crucial difference between them lies not only in how they view the world, but in how the world views them.

Superman is, and always has been, a symbol for truth, justice, and upstanding moral fortitude–a role model and leader as much as a fighter. The more down-to-earth Goku has no illusions about being responsible for maintaining social order, or for setting some kind of moral example for the entire world. Goku is simply a martial artist who’s devoted his life toward perfecting his fighting skills and other abilities. Though never shy about risking his life to save either one person or the entire world, he just doesn’t believe that the balance of the world rests in any way on his shoulders, and he has no need to shape any part of it in his image. Goku is an idealist, and believes that there is some good in everyone, but he is unconcerned with the big picture of the world…unless it has to do with some kind of fight. Politics, society, law and order don’t have much bearing on his life, but he’s a man who knows right from wrong.
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Re: Dragon Ball Heroes

Post by JeffJarrett » Thu Oct 03, 2013 5:53 pm

DBZGTKOSDH wrote:Assumption. San Xing Long doesn't transform officially from what we know.
He is like this in his first appearance:
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And after this, he becomes shiny:

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Re: Dragon Ball Heroes

Post by DBZGTKOSDH » Thu Oct 03, 2013 6:07 pm

Interesting, I never noticed that... Seems like he transformed like Si Xing Long.
James Teal (Animerica 1996) wrote:When you think about it, there are a number of similarities between the Chinese-inspired Son Goku and that most American of superhero icons, Superman. Both are aliens sent to Earth shortly after birth to escape the destruction of their homeworlds; both possess super-strength, flight, super-speed, heightened senses and the ability to cast energy blasts. But the crucial difference between them lies not only in how they view the world, but in how the world views them.

Superman is, and always has been, a symbol for truth, justice, and upstanding moral fortitude–a role model and leader as much as a fighter. The more down-to-earth Goku has no illusions about being responsible for maintaining social order, or for setting some kind of moral example for the entire world. Goku is simply a martial artist who’s devoted his life toward perfecting his fighting skills and other abilities. Though never shy about risking his life to save either one person or the entire world, he just doesn’t believe that the balance of the world rests in any way on his shoulders, and he has no need to shape any part of it in his image. Goku is an idealist, and believes that there is some good in everyone, but he is unconcerned with the big picture of the world…unless it has to do with some kind of fight. Politics, society, law and order don’t have much bearing on his life, but he’s a man who knows right from wrong.
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Post by KentalSSJ6 » Thu Oct 03, 2013 6:34 pm

The more likely case is inconsistent animation quality, or the two images were done by different animators.
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Re: Dragon Ball Heroes

Post by DNA » Thu Oct 03, 2013 7:17 pm

When will people get it through their heads, that's not really a transformation, like, at all. Si Xing Long had a magma armour which he shed, that's all that happened. It's like claiming a knight transformed when he takes his armour off.
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Post by TheMightyOzaru » Thu Oct 03, 2013 7:23 pm

DNA wrote:When will people get it through their heads, that's not really a transformation, like, at all. Si Xing Long had a magma armour which he shed, that's all that happened. It's like claiming a knight transformed when he takes his armour off.
:eh: , proof please? I suggest watching GT again, Si Xing Long got A LOT stronger when he turned gold. And before you say it's "shedding armor", Freeza does the same when he transforms into his final form:
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Re: Dragon Ball Heroes

Post by DNA » Thu Oct 03, 2013 7:30 pm

TheMightyOzaru wrote:proof please? I suggest watching GT again, Si Xing Long got A LOT stronger when he turned gold. And before you say it's "shedding armor", Freeza does the same when he transforms into his final form:
I suggest you get proof yourself. As I recall, Si Xing Long got a lot faster, which makes sense since he just shed an armour which was an hindrance. And Freeza actually physically changes his form.
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Re: Dragon Ball Heroes

Post by TheMightyOzaru » Thu Oct 03, 2013 7:33 pm

DNA wrote:
TheMightyOzaru wrote:proof please? I suggest watching GT again, Si Xing Long got A LOT stronger when he turned gold. And before you say it's "shedding armor", Freeza does the same when he transforms into his final form:
I suggest you get proof yourself. As I recall, Si Xing Long got a lot faster, which makes sense since he just shed an armour which was an hindrance. And Freeza actually physically changes his form.
And Si Xing Long physically changes his form too. Really? You're the one trying to convey a point and you want me to find the proof...? Ok, Goku is capable of downing Si Xing Long in his base form. When Si Xing Long transforms, he gives SSJ4 Goku trouble. I rest my case.
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Re: Dragon Ball Heroes

Post by DNA » Thu Oct 03, 2013 7:43 pm

TheMightyOzaru wrote:And Si Xing Long physically changes his form too. Really? You're the one trying to convey a point and you want me to find the proof...? Ok, Goku is capable of downing Si Xing Long in his base form. When Si Xing Long transforms, he gives SSJ4 Goku trouble. I rest my case.
You're the one trying to disprove me saying he got a lot stronger when Si Xing Long simply said he got a lot faster, which makes sense when you shed an armour. Si Xing Long shed an armour which was opaque and revealed a shinier interior, nothing changed.
If you want to disprove me you better back your own claims, since they are based on nothing but your own speculation. You're the one trying to prove something happened.
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Re: Dragon Ball Heroes

Post by miguelnuva1 » Thu Oct 03, 2013 8:34 pm

Nova went from around Base Goku to rivaling SSJ4 Goku it's no much more difference than a saiyan going from base to SSJ as far as physical difference goes.
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Post by TheMightyOzaru » Thu Oct 03, 2013 8:40 pm

DNA wrote:
TheMightyOzaru wrote:And Si Xing Long physically changes his form too. Really? You're the one trying to convey a point and you want me to find the proof...? Ok, Goku is capable of downing Si Xing Long in his base form. When Si Xing Long transforms, he gives SSJ4 Goku trouble. I rest my case.
You're the one trying to disprove me saying he got a lot stronger when Si Xing Long simply said he got a lot faster, which makes sense when you shed an armour. Si Xing Long shed an armour which was opaque and revealed a shinier interior, nothing changed.
If you want to disprove me you better back your own claims, since they are based on nothing but your own speculation. You're the one trying to prove something happened.
Your view is speculation :| . I DID prove he got stronger. Do you think base Goku > SSJ4 Goku or something?
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Re: Dragon Ball Heroes

Post by gokugambitoptimus » Thu Oct 03, 2013 9:22 pm

For me, the transformation of this dragón should be with a silver armor (his brother has a golden armor)
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Post by TheMightyOzaru » Thu Oct 03, 2013 10:13 pm

gokugambitoptimus wrote:For me, the transformation of this dragón should be with a silver armor (his brother has a golden armor)
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Post by pyromonki » Thu Oct 03, 2013 10:14 pm

TheMightyOzaru wrote: Do you think base Goku > SSJ4 Goku or something?
Android 17 and Omega Shenron think so. :lol:
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Post by TheDevilsCorpse » Fri Oct 04, 2013 1:05 am

Continuing the announcement of Heroes' re-branding for the next card set, in addition to adult Gotenks coming, the Evil Dragons are officially confirmed to be on the way....in English no less. I get the feeling it is going to be "big", at least when considering whjat the game has been in the past: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x4Q7ow3ka6E
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Post by goku the krump dancer » Fri Oct 04, 2013 1:16 am

Interesting trailer!

I can just imagine the youtube DB community flooding youtube when adult Gotenks is officially announced lol.
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Post by JulieYBM » Fri Oct 04, 2013 1:17 am

TheDevilsCorpse wrote:Continuing the announcement of Heroes' re-branding for the next card set, in addition to adult Gotenks coming, the Evil Dragons are officially confirmed to be on the way....in English no less. I get the feeling it is going to be "big", at least when considering whjat the game has been in the past: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x4Q7ow3ka6E
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Re: Dragon Ball Heroes

Post by DBZGTKOSDH » Fri Oct 04, 2013 1:19 am

Very interesting... Maybe the Galaxy Missions are over?
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