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Favorite Kaioken?

Post by TheBlackPaladin » Mon Oct 07, 2013 5:35 pm

For some reason, it seems that every time Goku uses the Kaioken, it's tied to a moment of major drama. So, what is your favorite instance of Goku using the Kaioken technique, and why?

For me, it would be his X20 Kaioken against Freeza. Nothing creates feel-good drama in a fight quite like a sudden second wind from the hero after you think he's down for the count. The sheer emotion behind Goku's words and screams for that Kaioken (performed masterfully by both Nozawa and Schemmel if we're talking about Kai), not to mention that it was grounded in a motivation to save his family and friends, never fails to bring a smile to my face. The music--for both the original Kikuchi placement and the Yamamoto score--was also perfectly synced to the emotionality of what was happening on screen.
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Re: Favorite Kaioken?

Post by CashmanX » Mon Oct 07, 2013 7:18 pm

Movie 2 against Dr. Uiro and the following Kamehameha. Love that scream. 8)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=72_4M0y1s3Y

This one scene (and the first three Z movies in general) singlehandedly converted me to the original back when I was a freshman in high school.
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Re: Favorite Kaioken?

Post by TheGmGoken » Mon Oct 07, 2013 8:42 pm

When Goku used Kaioken x3 on Vegeta. SAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAN BAAAAAAAAAI KAAAAAAIOOOOOOKEN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Masaoa Nozwa is awesome

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Re: Favorite Kaioken?

Post by Ajay » Mon Oct 07, 2013 8:50 pm

I am so with you on that. Absolutely fantastic! Peter Kelamis does a great job too in that scene.

My other favourite is probably the one against Vegeta - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9lRREo70 ... lpage#t=44
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Re: Favorite Kaioken?

Post by Linnom » Mon Oct 07, 2013 9:01 pm

TheGmGoken wrote:When Goku used Kaioken x3 on Vegeta. SAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAN BAAAAAAAAAI KAAAAAAIOOOOOOKEN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Masaoa Nozwa is awesome
This is my favorite too, Nozawa scream was really epic in the Z version!

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Re: Favorite Kaioken?

Post by TheGmGoken » Mon Oct 07, 2013 9:06 pm

AjayLikesGaming wrote:
I am so with you on that. Absolutely fantastic! Peter Kelamis does a great job too in that scene.

My other favourite is probably the one against Vegeta - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9lRREo70 ... lpage#t=44
No disrespect to your opinion but why the Kai scene over the Z scene? Ms. Nozawa was badass in this scene when she screaming SAAAANBAIII KAIOOOOKEN!

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Re: Favorite Kaioken?

Post by Ajay » Mon Oct 07, 2013 9:14 pm

TheGmGoken wrote:
AjayLikesGaming wrote:
I am so with you on that. Absolutely fantastic! Peter Kelamis does a great job too in that scene.

My other favourite is probably the one against Vegeta - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9lRREo70 ... lpage#t=44
No disrespect to your opinion but why the Kai scene over the Z scene? Ms. Nozawa was badass in this scene when she screaming SAAAANBAIII KAIOOOOKEN!
Couldn't find the Z version. Would have put that if I could find it.
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Re: Favorite Kaioken?

Post by TheOverlyMadHatter » Mon Oct 07, 2013 10:05 pm

I agree with all the Kaioken X3 against Vegeta talk. The scream is terribly epic on Nozawa's part, and to make it better is Vegeta's look of fear before Goku socks him. Simply, in the words of Yajirobe, awesome.
AjayLikesGaming wrote:Couldn't find the Z version. Would have put that if I could find it.
Found one.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ezya4qNFOq8

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Re: Favorite Kaioken?

Post by Victorious » Wed Oct 09, 2013 8:46 pm

Yeah x3 vs Vegeta.


The Kaioken aura also makes the coolest noise...I prefer it's "scream/whistling" noise to the "wish wish wish" noise of the SSJ aura.

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Re: Favorite Kaioken?

Post by KentalSSJ6 » Thu Oct 10, 2013 1:29 am

Gotta say the english Kai dub of the Kaio-Ken X20. The way Schemmel screams and increases the intensity of his yell is just amazing.

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Re: Favorite Kaioken?

Post by NintendoBlaze53 » Thu Oct 10, 2013 1:49 am

KentalSSJ6 wrote:Gotta say the english Kai dub of the Kaio-Ken X20. The way Schemmel screams and increases the intensity of his yell is just amazing.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_d22e7SgJeM
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But I agree this is my favorite Kaioken scene, especially with the Yamamoto score.
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Re: Favorite Kaioken?

Post by TheBlackPaladin » Thu Oct 10, 2013 2:22 am

NintendoBlaze53 wrote:
KentalSSJ6 wrote:Gotta say the english Kai dub of the Kaio-Ken X20. The way Schemmel screams and increases the intensity of his yell is just amazing.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_d22e7SgJeM
Don't let penguintruth hear that.
But I agree this is my favorite Kaioken scene, especially with the Yamamoto score.
Agreed about the Yamamoto score. That scene was one of the more notable casualties of the Kikuchi-Kai mix.
A "rather haggard" translation of a line from Future Gohan in DBZ, provided to FUNimation by Toei:
"To think of fighting that is this fun...so, it was pleasant fight, as many as, therefore is a feeling which is good the fight where."

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Re: Favorite Kaioken?

Post by Kakacarrottop » Tue Jun 09, 2015 12:21 am

Apologies for the bump, but i was gonna make a thread on this then saw this one existed. For me it would be when Goku uses the attack against Turles in the edited Saban dub (mainly because of the awesome music)

Honorable mentions:
- Goku's Kaio-ken x3 against Vegeta (Ocean/Saban dub)
- Goku's 'Super Kaio-ken' (Westwood dub)
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Re: Favorite Kaioken?

Post by fadeddreams5 » Tue Jun 09, 2015 12:42 am

My favorite kaioken moment is also one of the best beam struggles in the series:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VR3H7ntIZkA
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Re: Favorite Kaioken?

Post by supercat » Tue Jun 09, 2015 1:48 am

Definitely the Kaioken x 20 against Frieza. Goku has probably never felt such despair up until that point. He was completely outclassed, and any remote chance of victory was hastily countered by the tyrant's unrivaled power.

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Re: Favorite Kaioken?

Post by ShadowDude112 » Tue Jun 09, 2015 1:55 am

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ezya4qNFOq8
Easily this one. Although, the one in Movie 2 or the 20X Kaio-Ken against Freeza is very close.
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Re: Favorite Kaioken?

Post by LuckyCat » Tue Jun 09, 2015 10:08 am

ShadowDude112 wrote:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ezya4qNFOq8
Easily this one. Although, the one in Movie 2 or the 20X Kaio-Ken against Freeza is very close.
Definitely one of the best, but there's one weird thing about the music here. It fits the tension of the scene and all, but isn't that Freeza's theme @ 1:37?

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Re: Favorite Kaioken?

Post by SSJ God Gogeta » Tue Jun 09, 2015 11:23 am

Definitely x3 against Vegeta.
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Re: Favorite Kaioken?

Post by Doctor. » Tue Jun 09, 2015 11:34 am

The Kaioken x20 in the original japanese dub.The Kikuchi track at the beginning helps convey that this is Goku's last attempt at damaging Freeza and that he's risking it all; the silence right after gives the scene a greater impact and makes it much more memorable, where we can only hear Nozawa's absolutely fantastic screams. When the Kamehameha is fired, the soundtrack helps cement that it's indeed a struggle and maybe, in fact, it's all hopeless.

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Re: Favorite Kaioken?

Post by soulnova » Tue Jun 09, 2015 11:49 am

x3 was good enough but my personal favorite is the x4 Kaioken. Goku can barely handle it and it is a desperate last ditch effort. The visuals just kill it. That one for me is perhaps the most memorable scene on their whole one-on-one fight.
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