GT Perfect Files and SSJ2

[TheMightyOzaru]

The GT Perfect Files seem to be under the impression that no one uses SSJ2 in GT? are the Perfect Files reliable in that regard or can we disregard that since Vegeta seems to have gone SSJ2 when he attacks Super Yi Xing Long:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oBy3cnXQaI4 (Lightning)
I mean SSJ2 would make power scaling GT a lot easier IMO. The GT Perfect Files might just being making a minor mistake.

[KentalSSJ6]

The GT Perfect Files seem to be under the impression that no one uses SSJ2 in GT? are the Perfect Files reliable in that regard or can we disregard that since Vegeta seems to have gone SSJ2 when he attacks Super Yi Xing Long:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oBy3cnXQaI4 (Lightning)
I mean SSJ2 would make power scaling GT a lot easier IMO. The GT Perfect Files might just being making a minor mistake.

Its just used so little in the series that perhaps the staff forgot it was even used in the first place. Heck I think the only time Goku uses it is in the opening and during a power up scene to SSJ3.

[TheMightyOzaru]

I feel Vegeta used it on 3 separate occasions in GT.

[KentalSSJ6]

Its hard to tell considering his hair is shorter in GT and pretty much the same length on all sides.

[Dabooyaka]

I remember Gohan using it one time, and Vegeta using it about 3 times I think. .

[KentalSSJ6]

Screenshots of his SSJ1 and possible SSJ2 in GT would help.

[Rocketman]

There's one part where Vegeta obviously uses SS2 - when the others arrive to die fighting Omega Shenron. In the the dub, it's right after the line "I knew you'd come." He powers up in SS and his lighting changes, although there's no sparks.

[KentalSSJ6]

There's one part where Vegeta obviously uses SS2 - when the others arrive to die fighting Omega Shenron. In the the dub, it's right after the line "I knew you'd come." He powers up in SS and his lighting changes, although there's no sparks.

I think its safe to say SSJ2 sparks have been written out. They weren't even in Battle of Gods.

[Rocketman]

I think its safe to say SSJ2 sparks have been written out. They weren't even in Battle of Gods.

You know what else wasn't in Battle of Gods? Stuff that wasn't shit.

[KentalSSJ6]

I think its safe to say SSJ2 sparks have been written out. They weren't even in Battle of Gods.

You know what else wasn't in Battle of Gods? Stuff that wasn't shit.

You hate Battle of Gods, we get it.

[Zephyr]

I think its safe to say SSJ2 sparks have been written out. They weren't even in Battle of Gods.

You know what else wasn't in Battle of Gods? Stuff that wasn't shit.

But that's like, false, man.

[Darkprince410]

I'm fairly certain that Goku uses it at least once outside of when he transformed into an Ssj3. During his fight with Rildo, after Rildo merges with the planet and then fires off a large ball of liquid metal at Goku, you see his hair style change to how it looked when he was Ssj2 during the Buu Saga when he dissipates the ball against his aura. I can't really chalk it up to powering up either, since his hair is pretty much unmoving outside of the aforementioned change.

http://youtu.be/1lnmVaLAElg?t=3m13s

[Super Vegetto]

The GT Perfect Files seem to be under the impression that no one uses SSJ2 in GT? are the Perfect Files reliable in that regard or can we disregard that since Vegeta seems to have gone SSJ2 when he attacks Super Yi Xing Long:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oBy3cnXQaI4 (Lightning)
I mean SSJ2 would make power scaling GT a lot easier IMO. The GT Perfect Files might just being making a minor mistake.

Where it says in GT files that no one uses SSJ2 ?

On topic, they did use SSJ2 form in GT.

Goku used it against Rildo (for a moment), couple of times when transforming in SSJ3.

Vegeta used it against Super 17 and Omega Shenron.

Gohan used it against Super 17 and probably against Omega Shenron (not sure about Omega).


That's probably when they use SSJ2 in GT...

[DBZGTKOSDH]

Goku clearly used SS2 against Rild, and when he was transforming to SS3. Dragon Ball Heroes has SS2 Vegeta (GT) since Baby arc, and while Baby-possessed Gohan & Goten were fighting SS Vegeta, Baby was waiting for Vegeta to go full power. We saw Vegeta powering up (right when Baby got inside him), so it's possible that DB Heroes implies that Vegeta transformed into a SS2 at that point.

As for Super #17 & Evil Dragons arcs, there is no way to tell if Vegeta & Gohan used SS2, but logic says that they both used it in their fights against Super #17 & Super Yi Xing Long (though logic should also say to Goten & Trunks to use Fusion...). We do see sparks for Vegeta at one point, but we see sparks in normal SS as well in GT, so it's confusing.

[TheMightyOzaru]

Yeah, I feel Vegeta went SSJ2 against Bebi Goten and Gohan. I think he used it against Super 17 when 17 mentioned Goku. I think he used it against Yi Xing Long at the moment Rocketman specified.

[Godo]

Generally, even in the later movies, Toei has been really lenient on not putting sparks when someone used SSJ2.
An example would be Gohan in movie 10. The character design sheet shows a distinct change when Gohan goes from SSJ1 to SSJ2, but no sparks.
This trend has just went on.

EDIT: To clarify, to such an extent that SSJ2 apparently doesn't exist anymore.

[KentalSSJ6]

Generally, even in the later movies, Toei has been really lenient on not putting sparks when someone used SSJ2.
An example would be Gohan in movie 10. The character design sheet shows a distinct change when Gohan goes from SSJ1 to SSJ2, but no sparks.
This trend has just went on.

EDIT: To clarify, to such an extent that SSJ2 apparently doesn't exist anymore.

Pretty much, considering the Saiyans are most comfortable in Super Saiyan 1 and before SSJG, Goku used SSJ3 for dire situations. His mastery of SSJ1 and the boost SSJ3 has over 2 pretty much rendered SSJ2 useless to him. Until Vegeta gets SSJ3 or SSJG, the only Saiyans I could see using SSJ2 regularly are Goten and Trunks should they achieve it.

[miguelnuva1]

Vegeta and Gohan had a different Aura than Goten and Trunks against Super 17 and when S17 talks about Goku. Vegeta powers up and has 2 different Auras.

[Blade]

EDIT: To clarify, to such an extent that SSJ2 apparently doesn't exist anymore.

Yeah, sure - apart from, you know - that time when Goku illicitly refers to it by name in Battle of Gods.

[DBZGTKOSDH]

^ It only seems to exist for Goku now. Can you tell if or when Vegeta & Gohan are using it in filler, Movie 12, Movie 13, Battle of Gods, and GT? We can only speculate. Super Saiyan & Super Saiyan 2 are so similar for those two, to the point that Toei has merged the two forms into one.