The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

[TheMightyOzaru]

Goku could have been taking Gohan's previous outbursts into account.

[KentalSSJ6]

Beers vs Super Yi Xing Long

Super Yi Xing Long/Omega Shenron > Bills.

Bills > Yi Xing Long/Syn Shenron.

[Victorious]

Vegeta [Android arc] & Piccolo [Android arc] vs Future Android #18 and Future Android #17

[Kid Buu]

Is this Piccolo before he fused with Kami, or after?

[Victorious]

This is Piccolo prior to Kami merger.


Piccolo post Kami merger would solo those Androids since they're just each slightly more poerful than Future Trunks in the Android saga.

[TheMightyOzaru]

The Cyborgs are much stronger than that in the future. They're definitely weaker than the present Cyborgs, but not by much. The Cyborgs take this.

[KentalSSJ6]

The Cyborgs are much stronger than that in the future. They're definitely weaker than the present Cyborgs, but not by much. The Cyborgs take this.

I thought that the Cyborgs were equal in power in both timelines. The ones in Trunk's just never had to be pushed to full power like the ones in the current timeline.

[Rocketman]

If it was Vegeta and Piccolo vs 18 alone, then maybe. With 17 there, they get crushed.

[goku the krump dancer]

Care to elaborate a little?

I don't see why I would have to elaborate here, but ok. Gohan was stated to be very slightly stronger than Dabura during their battle, his sloppiness prevented him from doing well. If Gohan is weaker than his Cell games self, how the heck is Gohan supposed to be stronger than someone who is equal to Cell?

I'm sure theres a counter to that, I cant find it right now.. but when I do, I bring this little topic back up accordingly lol.

Also Super Yi Shenlong obliterates Beers... Imo the Haikaishin's full power is equal to first appearance SSJ4 Goku.

[TheMightyOzaru]

Care to elaborate a little?

I don't see why I would have to elaborate here, but ok. Gohan was stated to be very slightly stronger than Dabura during their battle, his sloppiness prevented him from doing well. If Gohan is weaker than his Cell games self, how the heck is Gohan supposed to be stronger than someone who is equal to Cell?

I'm sure theres a counter to that, I cant find it right now.. but when I do, I bring this little topic back up accordingly lol.

Also Super Yi Shenlong obliterates Beers... Imo the Haikaishin's full power is equal to first appearance SSJ4 Goku.

There's no counter unless you, for some ridiculous reason, believe Gohan was a SSJ2, in which case Dabura would be stronger than Perfect Cell.

[goku the krump dancer]

There a few things in Dragon Ball that just absolutely cannot be debated and this little topic isnt one of them.

But Nah, I believe he was an SSJ1 too, but I also think that Dabra was equal to Perfect Cell since nothing really contradicts it imo.

Goku tried to give his son the benefit of the doubt by saying Dabra's use of magic gave the demon king an advantage to which Vegeta replies that "he still shouldn't be having this much trouble".

Gohan's lack of training affected his skill more than his raw power. Meaning he couldn't bring out the same amount of power he had as an SSJ2 when he was younger and he was fighting like an amateur.

Yeah I know the way multipliers work is that it increases the power you already have by a set amount but do to Gohan's slacking and being that he's older and not prone to temper tantrums , that coulve affected the multipliers as well. It may be a stretch but its not impossible .

For all we know if Gohan had fought Cell while he was just SSJ1 as kid it might have played out similar to his fight with the Demon king.

Overral the statement Goku made about Dabura being around Cell's level was never really outright contradicted

[TheMightyOzaru]

Kaboom begs to differ. It's stated somewhere that Gohan was superior to Dabura.

[SuicidalZerg]

Post-ROSAT Pre Cell-games Gohan vs Jinzōningen Hachi-Gō

"Let's end this meaningless fight"
"Fighting is bad. I don't like bad things"

*Both band together to bring peace to the entire universe... by... telling people to stop fighting... yeah, no, that ain't gonna work*

[goku the krump dancer]

Kaboom begs to differ. It's stated somewhere that Gohan was superior to Dabura.

If theres actually an irrefutable statement or a theory that makes more sense then mine then i'd be more than willing to change my views on it until then though my thoughts remain the same.

[DBZGTKOSDH]

That implies that if he turns SSJ2 he will be close to Majin Boo...... Goku even wondered that.

That's what Kaioshin thinks. Goku on the other hand seems to think that Gohan isn't that much stronger.

[TheMightyOzaru]

Post-ROSAT Pre Cell-games Gohan vs Jinzōningen Hachi-Gō

"Let's end this meaningless fight"
"Fighting is bad. I don't like bad things"

*Both band together to bring peace to the entire universe... by... telling people to stop fighting... yeah, no, that ain't gonna work*

C-8 loses to Tao, why in the hell would you put him up against freakin Artificial Human arc Gohan?

[TheGmGoken]

SSJ Teen Gohan vs Cell Games Goku

[dbzfan7]

SSJ Teen Gohan vs Cell Games Goku

Depends on how you interpret statements. Some say Gohan got weaker and some say he had the same strength, but couldn't draw power from anger.

[TheGmGoken]

SSJ Teen Gohan vs Cell Games Goku

Depends on how you interpret statements. Some say Gohan got weaker and some say he had the same strength, but couldn't draw power from anger.

I think Gohan got weaker. I have weaker Gohan around the same power as CG Goku which is why I made this what if

[RandomGuy96]

SSJ Teen Gohan vs Cell Games Goku

Gohan stomps even harder than Cell Games SS Gohan would have. Goku gets absolutely murdered here.