"DBZ: Battle of Z" (360/PS3/Vita) On-Going Discussion Thread

[Quebaz]

I really hope this like Raging Blast 1 DLC and Super Vegetto and Bardock and unlockable later in the game, because those are some waste of dlcs people.

[SparkyPantsMcGee]

Has Namco Bandai or ARTDINK explain why Super Vegito is a DLC character?

No, but if I had to guess this looks like an attempt to get more pre-orders. Or at the very least get these games back into the spot light as much as they can. I think their hope is that places like Gamespot will promote these DLC exclusive characters. I don't know why they thought Super Vegetto as DLC was a good idea. Unlike Naruto Goku and SSj Bardock he isn't exactly new or special. Hell he's really popular. More than anything they are just going to get people upset.

I don't think these will be exclusive to pre-orders for very long. And if they are, I really don't think there will be a whole lot of pre-orders for this anyway. I'm willing to bet that if you were to walk in and get the game new without the pre-order you'll end up getting a copy with the codes anyway.

[TheGameTagerZ]

I interviewed Jason about DBZ Battle Of Z also mention Dragon Ball Heroes, JStars, Why DBZ HD Collection didn't include online and so on.

Enjoy guys

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GtS1VUYL5KI

[TheMightyOzaru]

I like how over 70 Characters is supposed to be impressive .

[dbzfan7]

Has Namco Bandai or ARTDINK explain why Super Vegito is a DLC character?

Oh I really want to hear the logic behind this decision. Unless it's just to unlock Vegetto early. Then who cares.

[Daimo-Rukiri]

I like how over 70 Characters is supposed to be impressive .

The game will probably have different animations per character which take up space versus they're all the same or slightly different.

If everything is free DLC who cares?

[Darknat]

I like how over 70 Characters is supposed to be impressive .

The game will probably have different animations per character which take up space versus they're all the same or slightly different.

If everything is free DLC who cares?

That's nothing new, Tenkaichi series and Raging blast series also have different animations even though they played the same. Aslo animations don't cost much disk space at all.

[SparkyPantsMcGee]

I like how over 70 Characters is supposed to be impressive .

Dragonball fans have been fucking spoiled. That average amount of characters in a typical fighting game is around 45 characters. Not sure about the size of the team, but each character is going to up a significant amount of time. And there is a lot of check and balancing between each character to ensure that they play well with the other ones already created; I could have sworn we've been over this already though. Yes, Tenkaici 2 and 3 had a shit ton of characters, but the series didn't start out that high. In fact, this game has more than the fist one did (BT1 had 58). Starting with 70 is good. As the series progresses, and if they do what Spike did and double their count in the sequel, they will be at 140(which is more than BT2!)

[dbboxkaifan]

70 characters is more than you'd get on other fighting games, so I can't see this as a flaw except for the fact that those 70 players consist of evolved forms, which is.. eh.

But anyway, I always end up using the same three (Goku, Gohan, Kid Buu) in most DBZ games so there's a lot to choose from if I wanted.

I like how over 70 Characters is supposed to be impressive .

The game will probably have different animations per character which take up space versus they're all the same or slightly different.

If everything is free DLC who cares?

Could see that an issue for the Xbox 360 (DVD 9GB+, I think) version but not PlayStation 3's (Blu-ray up to 50GB).

[SparkyPantsMcGee]

70 characters is more than you'd get on other fighting games, so I can't see this as a flaw except for the fact that those 70 players consist of evolved forms, which is.. eh.

But anyway, I always end up using the same three (Goku, Gohan, Kid Buu) in most DBZ games so there's a lot to choose from if I wanted.

Not sure about Dimps, but Spike also counted their transformations as separate characters so it's not like ARTDINK is doing anything unheard of.

[dbboxkaifan]

Not sure about Dimps, but Spike also counted their transformations as separate characters so it's not like ARTDINK is doing anything unheard of.

In defence of Spike, they actually allowed in-game transformations but ARTDINK doesn't unfortunately. They say that it's impossible or something because of the 4v4 on-screen character battles but if they really wanted they could have made it work out.

I personally wouldn't mind pre-ordering Battle of Z but the gameplay footage, 4v4 always, Super Vegito is DLC and possibly no Kikuchi music just leaves no solid reason to buy it early, other than to play it for what its worth. Though, I guess rental game services still work.

[SparkyPantsMcGee]

Not sure about Dimps, but Spike also counted their transformations as separate characters so it's not like ARTDINK is doing anything unheard of.

In defence of Spike, they actually allowed in-game transformations but ARTDINK doesn't unfortunately.

The first game didn't. It wasn't until 2 that they allowed for in game transformations. As for whether or not they couldn't, was that confirmed or is it just still assumed that they really couldn't? Not sure what is going on behind the scenes, but things don't just happened because you really wanted them too. Yes games have done it before, but it's not as simple as checking a box labeled "in game transformations." I'm sure they thought about it, and tried to make it happened and ran into problems. Instead of putting all of there resources into that one feature the director probably figured it would be best to focus on everything else first. I'm sure Spike had similar issues at first too. I'm disappointed they couldn't figure it out, but honestly the game looks like it will still hold up so I'm willing to give them a shot and hopefully it will be on the top of the list for next time since they got the essentials out of the way.

[Hellspawn28]

The DB wiki has the game listed down for a March 31st release date. Please don't buy into any release dates until we get a official release date. March 31st is on a Monday and video games tend to come out on Tuesdays. Amazon and Gamestop use those dates as place holder dates.

[Quebaz]

I like how over 70 Characters is supposed to be impressive .

Dragonball fans have been fucking spoiled. That average amount of characters in a typical fighting game is around 45 characters. Not sure about the size of the team, but each character is going to up a significant amount of time. And there is a lot of check and balancing between each character to ensure that they play well with the other ones already created; I could have sworn we've been over this already though. Yes, Tenkaici 2 and 3 had a shit ton of characters, but the series didn't start out that high. In fact, this game has more than the fist one did (BT1 had 58). Starting with 70 is good. As the series progresses, and if they do what Spike did and double their count in the sequel, they will be at 140(which is more than BT2!)

Except that you know, most of the characters in those games aren't a blond variation of one character, or a more muscular version of one character, or a thiner version of one character, or a no-scouter version of one character, or a no-sword version of one character. I guess people are upset by the "over 70" because it counts transformations, and some characters have 3 to 4 transformations, so obviously some diversity is going to be lost.

[supersaiyan DbZ fan]

i have been told multiple times on kanzenshuu not to trust db wiki........with no real reason

[Big Momma]

i have been told multiple times on kanzenshuu not to trust db wiki........with no real reason

Because it often has false information.

[goku the krump dancer]

Spike was wrong for counting transformation as separate characters and Artdink is just as wrong.

They do that because the transformations have different animations from its other forms.

Base,SSJ,SSJ2,SSJ3 and Godku all have different punch and kick animations. But thats isn't really necessary.

For us to have this "perfect" DBZ game, 70 characters would be perfect. if not just a little more than necessary.

The ideal roster should contain

Spoiler:

Three Gokus
1.Adult Goku
2.Natural kid Goku from the first half of DB
3.Magic kid Goku aka GT kid Goku.
ThreeTrunks'
4.ONE Future Trunks
5.Kid Trunks
6.Teen/Adult Trunks (EOZ/GT)
Four Gohans
7.Toddler Gohan
8.Boyhood/Pre-Teen Gohan
9.Teen/Adult Gohan (Boo arc/GT)
10.Future Gohan
11. ONE Vegeta.. (Oozaru is unplayable and is just a boss battle in story mode, Majin Vegeta is item exclusive or an Irreversible transformation.)
12.Piccolo
13.Krillin
14.Tenshinhan
15.Yamcha
16.Chaozu
17.Roshi
18. Two Gotens.. Kid and Adult/Teen (EOZ/GT)
19.Videl
20.Mr. Satan
21.Uub.. His GT incarnation would be his primary model, his End of Z attire would be an alternate costume.
22.Adult ChiChi
23.Pan (GT).. her EOZ gi would be an Alternate costume.
24.Raditz
25.Nappa
26.Dodoria
27.Zarbon
28.Gurd
29.Jeice
30.Reacoome
31.Burter
32.Ginyu
33.Freeza (Mecha Freeza is item exclusive)
34.#20 aka Gero
35. 19
36. 18
37. 17
38. 16
39. Cell
40.Spopovich
41.Dabura
42.Fat Boo
43.Super Boo
44.Kid Boo
45.Ledgic
46.Rildo
47.Ribet
48.Nezi
49.Natt
50.Bizu
51.Bebi Vegeta (Oozaru form is boss battle only)
52.Super 17 (can be merged into during team battle with two 17s on one team.)
53.Six Star Dragon
54.Four Star Dragon
55.Three Star Dragon
56.One Star Dragon
57.Beers
58.Whis
59.Gotenks
60.Gogeta
61.Vegetto
62.Broly
63.Bardock
64.Tullece
65.Cooler (Meta form is an item exclusive)
66.13
67.Bojack
68.Slug (Giant form is Boss battle exclusive)
69.Janemba (Giant form is Boss Battle exclusive)
70.Garlic Jr
71.Tao (Cyber form is item exclusive)
72.Daimao
73.Saibaman
74.Cell Jr.

So yeah, roughly a little over 70 characters would be ideal for a perfect DBZ game. Counting transformation 70 characters isn't impressive at all but then again counting transformations is stupid.

[theoriginalbilis]

i have been told multiple times on kanzenshuu not to trust db wiki........with no real reason

Any information/database website that regularly cites fanfiction should never be trusted.

[EXBadguy]

Since when the hell did a 100 character roster for a first game became a priority? Now, I know variety is a slice of life, but most of these characters play the freaking same. Which is why I was kinda glad NB restarted the Tenkaichi series with RB, cuz it's gonna take them a hell of a lot of time to put all of those character including new ones into a BT4 with all those animations.

And I seriously think that 45 characters for a first fighting game is as far as it goes. I don't want them to waste time putting in characters that nobody cares about and leaving everything else messed up. Fanbases these days....

[SSJ6Goku]

I guess this is gonna be the final roster. They have made some very bad choices, but oh well. (Underlined characters are not confirmed.)

Has Namco Bandai or ARTDINK explain why Super Vegito is a DLC character?

Namco is prolly the one who told Artdink to do it for a preorder jump. should have made ss3 brolly in the game and have him dlc. or another anime crossover costume. a one piece costume, would have liked that!