Goku kept SSJ God's power.

[TheMightyOzaru]

I figure this thing should have it's own thread considering it's a rather big revelation. Yes, for those of you who don't know, Goku did in fact keep the God powers in Battle of Gods.

Will Goku be able to transform into [Super Saiyan] God in the future?
I think you’ll understand if you watch [the movie], but Goku has already absorbed [Super Saiyan] God’s power and made it his own, so there is no need for him to transform into [Super Saiyan] God. Goku basically only thinks of fighting as a sporting match, so borrowing the power of five people isn’t fair, and he resisted doing that; however, it seems his curiosity towards the realm that lay even further beyond him won out.

[Chuquita]

This is good for me personally because it means a good chunk of my comics from April on still work and I don't have to drop the "Goku somehow/accidentally absorbed ssjg when it was originally only supposed to be temporary and now he's stuck with this semi-mysterious outside power-up forever, but is slowly learning what he can do with it and how powering up different amounts of it affects him" storyline I've been drawing.

I wanted him to keep it; it's so cute and pretty, and Goku's so adorably awkward in it, it hits almost every one of my fangirl buttons; I'd just decided that it would be permanent in my own head-canon unless ssjg was proven to be a temporary power-up by the author himself. And then Toriyama comes along and says it's permanent, and eludes to the idea that the ssjg power and appearance each have their own switches apparently, which is awesome. It's like if ssj1, 2, or 3 could have their power alone accessed without their appearances; interesting.

[goku the krump dancer]

Wow.. Whats the source behind this statement?

Though I still think it could be interpreted in different ways. The ending of Battle of Gods is really weird.

[TheMightyOzaru]

Wow.. Whats the source behind this statement?

Though I still think it could be interpreted in different ways. The ending of Battle of Gods is really weird.

It's translated right here on Kanzenshuu:
http://www.kanzenshuu.com/translations/ ... -toriyama/
I don't see how it can be interpreted any differently. It outright says Goku kept the power.

[TheGmGoken]

So....if Goku kept the power. That means his Base is ALWAYS like that or he can use it at any time. If so what's the point of Oob? I mean if we bring GT into this we can say he used it all the time in DBGT.

[TheMightyOzaru]

So....if Goku kept the power. That means his Base is ALWAYS like that or he can use it at any time. If so what's the point of Oob? I mean if we bring GT into this we can say he used it all the time in DBGT.

I guess we're gonna have to assume it's like Gohan's ultimate state. He can use it if he wants, but he still has access to his normal SSJ forms.

[Rocketman]

*spins chamber, puts gun to head*

[TheGmGoken]

*spins chamber, puts gun to head*

I agree. I'm not a fan of this. AT ALL. Just something about it doesn't feel right. Seems like a cheap ass way for Goku to become stronger. I mean before it was just for a short amount of time and Vegeta was going to get it next. But now it's like GOku got it and kept it while Vegeta most likely just going to have it for a short amount of time. I mean if Vegeta keeps it then what's the point of oob

[goku the krump dancer]

Wow.. Whats the source behind this statement?

Though I still think it could be interpreted in different ways. The ending of Battle of Gods is really weird.

I don't see how it can be interpreted any differently. It outright says Goku kept the power.

I say this because Goku was completely spent after dispersing Beers' final attack which made it seem like he used the last bit of the God forms power to do so, albeit unconsciously. And Beers says that even though he was still able to keep up with after form wore off Goku wasn't as strong as he was before that. So maybe he absorbed most of it and not ALL of it since some of it wore off.

But it doesn't really matter now, he kept the power-up not necessarily the form though (I dont think).. so yeah.. blah..

Pretty cool piece of news though.

[Tenshin_Saiyan]

So can we say that after BOG events we have the follow order of powers?


Whis > Beers > Base/SSJ Goku > Mystic Gohan > SSJ3 Gotenks > Vegeta > Mr.Boo > Piccolo > N.18

Is it correct?

Can Vegeta some day surpass Mystic Gohan and SSJ3 Gotenks without the SSJG ritual ?

What do you think guys?

[TheMightyOzaru]

Wow.. Whats the source behind this statement?

Though I still think it could be interpreted in different ways. The ending of Battle of Gods is really weird.

I don't see how it can be interpreted any differently. It outright says Goku kept the power.

I say this because Goku was completely spent after dispersing Beers' final attack which made it seem like he used the last bit of the God forms power to do so, albeit unconsciously. And Beers says that even though he was still able to keep up with after form wore off Goku wasn't as strong as he was before that. So maybe he absorbed most of it and not ALL of it since some of it wore off.

But it doesn't really matter now, he kept the power-up not necessarily the form though (I dont think).. so yeah.. blah..

Pretty cool piece of news though.

It says he kept the power, not the form outright.

Can Vegeta some day surpass Mystic Gohan and SSJ3 Gotenks without the SSJG ritual ?

No... .

In response to this overall idea.... I don't like it either. It really f***s with the ending to the original manga, and it makes SSJ God really cheap.

[KentalSSJ6]

Wasent SSJG always cheap? I mean in Goku's case it puts him above Super Vegito. They should have made it only slightly stronger than Mystic Gohan and reduced Bill's and Whis's power to between Mystic Gohan and Buuhan. Maybe then this movie would have been more enjoyable and SSJG wouldent have even been needed. We could have gotten SSJ3 Vegeta and possibly Gogeta.

[sintzu]

at least now we know why goku is so strong in gt

[TheGmGoken]

Wasent SSJG always cheap? I mean in Goku's case it puts him above Super Vegito. They should have made it only slightly stronger than Mystic Gohan and reduced Bill's and Whis's power to between Mystic Gohan and Buuhan. Maybe then this movie would have been more enjoyable and SSJG wouldent have even been needed. We could have gotten SSJ3 Vegeta and possibly Gogeta.

The fact that Goku can become stronger than Vegetto at will not is just crazy. What's the point of Oob then? Goku wanted a challenge(Hence why he wanted to fight Oob). How is Oob now a challenge where Goku isn't "technicality" at full power. That's not even fair to Oob. I honestly expecting a re-write for the ending.

[sintzu]

They should have reduced Bill's and Whis's power to between Mystic Gohan and Buuhan.and SSJG wouldent have even been needed. We could have gotten SSJ3 Vegeta and possibly Gogeta.

toie wants the spot light on goku so i don't think we will ever get something like that wich would make an epic movie and story wich is something toie dosen't do and i don't think they ever will

[sintzu]

Can Vegeta some day surpass Mystic Gohan and SSJ3 Gotenks without the SSJG ritual ?

What do you think guys?

in the manga canon where stuff makes sence i'd say he did cause in the 10 year time gap he must have traind 24/7 to reach ssj3 (wich i personly think he reached at some point in thoes 10 years) and get as strong as he could while gohan-goten-trunks did little to no training

[Unicorn_Bazooka]

There are still a many things i don't get.

Does the red form show up in the future?
Is this a major turnpoint in series where everyone turns into a god?
Does Goku still have regular Ki like non-god people?
Is the regular Super Saiyan form going to be used instead of the red one?

[KentalSSJ6]

There are still a many things i don't get.

Does the red form show up in the future?
Is this a major turnpoint in series where everyone turns into a god?
Does Goku still have regular Ki like non-god people?
Is the regular Super Saiyan form going to be used instead of the red one?

Well, now thats it confirmed that Goku keeps SSJG and its color scheme is red...it would explain the red fur of SSJ4...

[Unicorn_Bazooka]

There are still a many things i don't get.

Does the red form show up in the future?
Is this a major turnpoint in series where everyone turns into a god?
Does Goku still have regular Ki like non-god people?
Is the regular Super Saiyan form going to be used instead of the red one?

Well, now thats it confirmed that Goku keeps SSJG and its color scheme is red...it would explain the red fur of SSJ4...

But he did fight Bills again in his regular SSJ form, so is that used instead of the red form and/or is it stronger than the SSJG form?
And why are you comparing this to GT?

[KentalSSJ6]

Just listing off possible theories here. I can see Toei trying to link the series together. Goku keeping SSJG would explain why he was so strong in GT to begin with.