Some people missed this onePolyphase Avatron wrote:How about this: Super Saiyan God Gohan (assuming half Saiyans can go SSJG) vs. Bills instead of Goku. Since Gohan was stronger before the transformation could he have a better chance of winning?
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Gohan is only stronger because of he has the Ultimate state, which isn't a Saiyan state. In base/SS/SS2, Goku is stronger than Gohan, so he should be stronger than him in Super Saiyan God as well. So, he can't beat Beers.Polyphase Avatron wrote:How about this: Super Saiyan God Gohan (assuming half Saiyans can go SSJG) vs. Bills instead of Goku. Since Gohan was stronger before the transformation could he have a better chance of winning?
James Teal (Animerica 1996) wrote:When you think about it, there are a number of similarities between the Chinese-inspired Son Goku and that most American of superhero icons, Superman. Both are aliens sent to Earth shortly after birth to escape the destruction of their homeworlds; both possess super-strength, flight, super-speed, heightened senses and the ability to cast energy blasts. But the crucial difference between them lies not only in how they view the world, but in how the world views them.
Superman is, and always has been, a symbol for truth, justice, and upstanding moral fortitude–a role model and leader as much as a fighter. The more down-to-earth Goku has no illusions about being responsible for maintaining social order, or for setting some kind of moral example for the entire world. Goku is simply a martial artist who’s devoted his life toward perfecting his fighting skills and other abilities. Though never shy about risking his life to save either one person or the entire world, he just doesn’t believe that the balance of the world rests in any way on his shoulders, and he has no need to shape any part of it in his image. Goku is an idealist, and believes that there is some good in everyone, but he is unconcerned with the big picture of the world…unless it has to do with some kind of fight. Politics, society, law and order don’t have much bearing on his life, but he’s a man who knows right from wrong.
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Gohan base is weaker than Goku. SSG isn't Mystic plus(or times) SSG. A better fight would be Gotenks(Assuming Pan and Bra are alive) vs BirsuPolyphase Avatron wrote:Some people missed this onePolyphase Avatron wrote:How about this: Super Saiyan God Gohan (assuming half Saiyans can go SSJG) vs. Bills instead of Goku. Since Gohan was stronger before the transformation could he have a better chance of winning?
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Gotenks destroys Beers. Even Whis.TheGmGoken wrote:Gotenks(Assuming Pan and Bra are alive) vs Birsu
James Teal (Animerica 1996) wrote:When you think about it, there are a number of similarities between the Chinese-inspired Son Goku and that most American of superhero icons, Superman. Both are aliens sent to Earth shortly after birth to escape the destruction of their homeworlds; both possess super-strength, flight, super-speed, heightened senses and the ability to cast energy blasts. But the crucial difference between them lies not only in how they view the world, but in how the world views them.
Superman is, and always has been, a symbol for truth, justice, and upstanding moral fortitude–a role model and leader as much as a fighter. The more down-to-earth Goku has no illusions about being responsible for maintaining social order, or for setting some kind of moral example for the entire world. Goku is simply a martial artist who’s devoted his life toward perfecting his fighting skills and other abilities. Though never shy about risking his life to save either one person or the entire world, he just doesn’t believe that the balance of the world rests in any way on his shoulders, and he has no need to shape any part of it in his image. Goku is an idealist, and believes that there is some good in everyone, but he is unconcerned with the big picture of the world…unless it has to do with some kind of fight. Politics, society, law and order don’t have much bearing on his life, but he’s a man who knows right from wrong.
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The fusion would probably last like 5 seconds though.....DBZGTKOSDH wrote:Gotenks destroys Beers. Even Whis.TheGmGoken wrote:Gotenks(Assuming Pan and Bra are alive) vs Birsu
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Post-Z sword SS2 Gohan was implied to be close to Fat Buu. SSG Gohan completely murders Beers.How about this: Super Saiyan God Gohan (assuming half Saiyans can go SSJG) vs. Bills instead of Goku. Since Gohan was stronger before the transformation could he have a better chance of winning?
Gotenks murders Beers much quicker, then blows up Whis for kicks.
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And why is that? SS3 Gotenks lasts for 5 minutes because Super Saiyan 3 drains everything after 5 minutes. Super Saiyan God lasts for 7 minutes, and if by any chance Gotenks could manage to absorb the power, the Fusion should last for 30 minutes. But still, 7 minutes should be enough IMO.TheMightyOzaru wrote:The fusion would probably last like 5 seconds though.....
James Teal (Animerica 1996) wrote:When you think about it, there are a number of similarities between the Chinese-inspired Son Goku and that most American of superhero icons, Superman. Both are aliens sent to Earth shortly after birth to escape the destruction of their homeworlds; both possess super-strength, flight, super-speed, heightened senses and the ability to cast energy blasts. But the crucial difference between them lies not only in how they view the world, but in how the world views them.
Superman is, and always has been, a symbol for truth, justice, and upstanding moral fortitude–a role model and leader as much as a fighter. The more down-to-earth Goku has no illusions about being responsible for maintaining social order, or for setting some kind of moral example for the entire world. Goku is simply a martial artist who’s devoted his life toward perfecting his fighting skills and other abilities. Though never shy about risking his life to save either one person or the entire world, he just doesn’t believe that the balance of the world rests in any way on his shoulders, and he has no need to shape any part of it in his image. Goku is an idealist, and believes that there is some good in everyone, but he is unconcerned with the big picture of the world…unless it has to do with some kind of fight. Politics, society, law and order don’t have much bearing on his life, but he’s a man who knows right from wrong.
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Post Z sword Gohan SSj2 vs Goku SSJ3(Reminder. Goku have strain on SSj3)
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Id still say Goku takes it. Gohan only surpasses Goku after achieving Mystic form and before Battle of Gods.TheGmGoken wrote:Post Z sword Gohan SSj2 vs Goku SSJ3(Reminder. Goku have strain on SSj3)
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I don't see Gohan significantly stronger. SS2 Goku wins.TheGmGoken wrote:Post Z sword Gohan SSj2 vs Goku SSJ3(Reminder. Goku have strain on SSj3)
James Teal (Animerica 1996) wrote:When you think about it, there are a number of similarities between the Chinese-inspired Son Goku and that most American of superhero icons, Superman. Both are aliens sent to Earth shortly after birth to escape the destruction of their homeworlds; both possess super-strength, flight, super-speed, heightened senses and the ability to cast energy blasts. But the crucial difference between them lies not only in how they view the world, but in how the world views them.
Superman is, and always has been, a symbol for truth, justice, and upstanding moral fortitude–a role model and leader as much as a fighter. The more down-to-earth Goku has no illusions about being responsible for maintaining social order, or for setting some kind of moral example for the entire world. Goku is simply a martial artist who’s devoted his life toward perfecting his fighting skills and other abilities. Though never shy about risking his life to save either one person or the entire world, he just doesn’t believe that the balance of the world rests in any way on his shoulders, and he has no need to shape any part of it in his image. Goku is an idealist, and believes that there is some good in everyone, but he is unconcerned with the big picture of the world…unless it has to do with some kind of fight. Politics, society, law and order don’t have much bearing on his life, but he’s a man who knows right from wrong.
Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread
Despite Kaioshin and Gohan's desperate attempts to rationalize the Z-Sword's existence, Gohan wouldn't have gained anything from training with it aside from some moderate physical "arm strength" as noted. Goku is more than likely still stronger even at SSJ2.TheGmGoken wrote:Post Z sword Gohan SSj2 vs Goku SSJ3(Reminder. Goku have strain on SSj3)
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Gohan looses this. I see him surpassing SSJ2 Goku and Vegeta, but he wouldn't survive Vegeta's Final Atonement...TheGmGoken wrote:Post Z sword Gohan SSj2 vs Goku SSJ3(Reminder. Goku have strain on SSj3)
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Neither would SSj3 Goku. Majin Boo barely lived it. Self Destruction attacks gives HUGE damageSuper Vegetto wrote:Gohan looses this. I see him surpassing SSJ2 Goku and Vegeta, but he wouldn't survive Vegeta's Final Atonement...TheGmGoken wrote:Post Z sword Gohan SSj2 vs Goku SSJ3(Reminder. Goku have strain on SSj3)
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TheGmGoken wrote:Neither would SSj3 Goku. Majin Boo barely lived it. Self Destruction attacks gives HUGE damageSuper Vegetto wrote:Gohan looses this. I see him surpassing SSJ2 Goku and Vegeta, but he wouldn't survive Vegeta's Final Atonement...TheGmGoken wrote:Post Z sword Gohan SSj2 vs Goku SSJ3(Reminder. Goku have strain on SSj3)
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Majin Boo also can't take bullets...TheGmGoken wrote:Majin Boo barely lived it. Self Destruction attacks gives HUGE damage
James Teal (Animerica 1996) wrote:When you think about it, there are a number of similarities between the Chinese-inspired Son Goku and that most American of superhero icons, Superman. Both are aliens sent to Earth shortly after birth to escape the destruction of their homeworlds; both possess super-strength, flight, super-speed, heightened senses and the ability to cast energy blasts. But the crucial difference between them lies not only in how they view the world, but in how the world views them.
Superman is, and always has been, a symbol for truth, justice, and upstanding moral fortitude–a role model and leader as much as a fighter. The more down-to-earth Goku has no illusions about being responsible for maintaining social order, or for setting some kind of moral example for the entire world. Goku is simply a martial artist who’s devoted his life toward perfecting his fighting skills and other abilities. Though never shy about risking his life to save either one person or the entire world, he just doesn’t believe that the balance of the world rests in any way on his shoulders, and he has no need to shape any part of it in his image. Goku is an idealist, and believes that there is some good in everyone, but he is unconcerned with the big picture of the world…unless it has to do with some kind of fight. Politics, society, law and order don’t have much bearing on his life, but he’s a man who knows right from wrong.
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There a difference between letting a attack go through you(Because you know you can regenerate) and barely living.DBZGTKOSDH wrote:Majin Boo also can't take bullets...TheGmGoken wrote:Majin Boo barely lived it. Self Destruction attacks gives HUGE damage
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Boo is much more sensitive to attacks than normal people on his level. Which is why he can regenerate.
James Teal (Animerica 1996) wrote:When you think about it, there are a number of similarities between the Chinese-inspired Son Goku and that most American of superhero icons, Superman. Both are aliens sent to Earth shortly after birth to escape the destruction of their homeworlds; both possess super-strength, flight, super-speed, heightened senses and the ability to cast energy blasts. But the crucial difference between them lies not only in how they view the world, but in how the world views them.
Superman is, and always has been, a symbol for truth, justice, and upstanding moral fortitude–a role model and leader as much as a fighter. The more down-to-earth Goku has no illusions about being responsible for maintaining social order, or for setting some kind of moral example for the entire world. Goku is simply a martial artist who’s devoted his life toward perfecting his fighting skills and other abilities. Though never shy about risking his life to save either one person or the entire world, he just doesn’t believe that the balance of the world rests in any way on his shoulders, and he has no need to shape any part of it in his image. Goku is an idealist, and believes that there is some good in everyone, but he is unconcerned with the big picture of the world…unless it has to do with some kind of fight. Politics, society, law and order don’t have much bearing on his life, but he’s a man who knows right from wrong.
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I'm pretty sure if he wanted to. He would tank certain if not most attacks. He just let the attacks go through him cause he can regenerateDBZGTKOSDH wrote:Boo is much more sensitive to attacks than normal people on his level. Which is why he can regenerate.
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I agree on the part that Boo lets the attacks to hurt him, but I don't believe that , say, Pure Boo is as durable as Super Saiyan 3 Goku.TheGmGoken wrote:I'm pretty sure if he wanted to. He would tank certain if not most attacks. He just let the attacks go through him cause he can regenerateDBZGTKOSDH wrote:Boo is much more sensitive to attacks than normal people on his level. Which is why he can regenerate.
James Teal (Animerica 1996) wrote:When you think about it, there are a number of similarities between the Chinese-inspired Son Goku and that most American of superhero icons, Superman. Both are aliens sent to Earth shortly after birth to escape the destruction of their homeworlds; both possess super-strength, flight, super-speed, heightened senses and the ability to cast energy blasts. But the crucial difference between them lies not only in how they view the world, but in how the world views them.
Superman is, and always has been, a symbol for truth, justice, and upstanding moral fortitude–a role model and leader as much as a fighter. The more down-to-earth Goku has no illusions about being responsible for maintaining social order, or for setting some kind of moral example for the entire world. Goku is simply a martial artist who’s devoted his life toward perfecting his fighting skills and other abilities. Though never shy about risking his life to save either one person or the entire world, he just doesn’t believe that the balance of the world rests in any way on his shoulders, and he has no need to shape any part of it in his image. Goku is an idealist, and believes that there is some good in everyone, but he is unconcerned with the big picture of the world…unless it has to do with some kind of fight. Politics, society, law and order don’t have much bearing on his life, but he’s a man who knows right from wrong.
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Well if Pure Boo raises his defense and actually tries then maybe he COULDDBZGTKOSDH wrote:I agree on the part that Boo lets the attacks to hurt him, but I don't believe that , say, Pure Boo is as durable as Super Saiyan 3 Goku.TheGmGoken wrote:I'm pretty sure if he wanted to. He would tank certain if not most attacks. He just let the attacks go through him cause he can regenerateDBZGTKOSDH wrote:Boo is much more sensitive to attacks than normal people on his level. Which is why he can regenerate.
You really don't like debates do you?Well that's your opinion and i disagree with it.