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Re: Interesting or funny pictures thread

Post by hleV » Sun Oct 20, 2013 6:33 pm

Goku's whole body gets a shade of red, why wouldn't that include the hair?

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Re: Interesting or funny pictures thread

Post by DBZGTKOSDH » Sun Oct 20, 2013 6:33 pm

rereboy wrote:Goku's hair is back. Black is a color used in the limited color pages. Toriyama was free to combine the color red and black however he felt like in that chapter since he used both in the chapter, including to color Goku's hair as black whenever he wasn't using Kaioken. So no, I'm afraid you are incorrect.
Toriyama doesn't care to have consistency in the colors, he just adds the colors that would look good colored.
James Teal (Animerica 1996) wrote:When you think about it, there are a number of similarities between the Chinese-inspired Son Goku and that most American of superhero icons, Superman. Both are aliens sent to Earth shortly after birth to escape the destruction of their homeworlds; both possess super-strength, flight, super-speed, heightened senses and the ability to cast energy blasts. But the crucial difference between them lies not only in how they view the world, but in how the world views them.

Superman is, and always has been, a symbol for truth, justice, and upstanding moral fortitude–a role model and leader as much as a fighter. The more down-to-earth Goku has no illusions about being responsible for maintaining social order, or for setting some kind of moral example for the entire world. Goku is simply a martial artist who’s devoted his life toward perfecting his fighting skills and other abilities. Though never shy about risking his life to save either one person or the entire world, he just doesn’t believe that the balance of the world rests in any way on his shoulders, and he has no need to shape any part of it in his image. Goku is an idealist, and believes that there is some good in everyone, but he is unconcerned with the big picture of the world…unless it has to do with some kind of fight. Politics, society, law and order don’t have much bearing on his life, but he’s a man who knows right from wrong.

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Re: Interesting or funny pictures thread

Post by rereboy » Sun Oct 20, 2013 6:50 pm

DBZGTKOSDH wrote:
rereboy wrote:Goku's hair is back. Black is a color used in the limited color pages. Toriyama was free to combine the color red and black however he felt like in that chapter since he used both in the chapter, including to color Goku's hair as black whenever he wasn't using Kaioken. So no, I'm afraid you are incorrect.
Toriyama doesn't care to have consistency in the colors, he just adds the colors that would look good colored.
Kaioken has always been consistent whenever he colored it. So that's a non-issue regarding Kaioken.

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Re: Interesting or funny pictures thread

Post by DBZGTKOSDH » Sun Oct 20, 2013 6:56 pm

rereboy wrote:Kaioken has always been consistent whenever he colored it. So that's a non-issue regarding Kaioken.
Yeah... when did he colored it again?
James Teal (Animerica 1996) wrote:When you think about it, there are a number of similarities between the Chinese-inspired Son Goku and that most American of superhero icons, Superman. Both are aliens sent to Earth shortly after birth to escape the destruction of their homeworlds; both possess super-strength, flight, super-speed, heightened senses and the ability to cast energy blasts. But the crucial difference between them lies not only in how they view the world, but in how the world views them.

Superman is, and always has been, a symbol for truth, justice, and upstanding moral fortitude–a role model and leader as much as a fighter. The more down-to-earth Goku has no illusions about being responsible for maintaining social order, or for setting some kind of moral example for the entire world. Goku is simply a martial artist who’s devoted his life toward perfecting his fighting skills and other abilities. Though never shy about risking his life to save either one person or the entire world, he just doesn’t believe that the balance of the world rests in any way on his shoulders, and he has no need to shape any part of it in his image. Goku is an idealist, and believes that there is some good in everyone, but he is unconcerned with the big picture of the world…unless it has to do with some kind of fight. Politics, society, law and order don’t have much bearing on his life, but he’s a man who knows right from wrong.

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Re: Interesting or funny pictures thread

Post by rereboy » Sun Oct 20, 2013 7:01 pm

He colored it in chapter 228 and 229. Not sure if he colored it when he was fighting Freeza. Does it even matter, though? It is consistent, and even the anime (which is the most mainstream, influential and known version of Dragon Ball throughout the world) follows that color scheme almost identically, adding just more shadow.
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Re: Interesting or funny pictures thread

Post by DBZGTKOSDH » Sun Oct 20, 2013 7:04 pm

rereboy wrote:He colored it in chapter 228 and 229. Not sure if he colored it when he was fighting Freeza.
It wasn't. He colored the hair red, while they remain black in the black & white versions. And since it's a full colored pallet, we can't even know if red is the intended color.
James Teal (Animerica 1996) wrote:When you think about it, there are a number of similarities between the Chinese-inspired Son Goku and that most American of superhero icons, Superman. Both are aliens sent to Earth shortly after birth to escape the destruction of their homeworlds; both possess super-strength, flight, super-speed, heightened senses and the ability to cast energy blasts. But the crucial difference between them lies not only in how they view the world, but in how the world views them.

Superman is, and always has been, a symbol for truth, justice, and upstanding moral fortitude–a role model and leader as much as a fighter. The more down-to-earth Goku has no illusions about being responsible for maintaining social order, or for setting some kind of moral example for the entire world. Goku is simply a martial artist who’s devoted his life toward perfecting his fighting skills and other abilities. Though never shy about risking his life to save either one person or the entire world, he just doesn’t believe that the balance of the world rests in any way on his shoulders, and he has no need to shape any part of it in his image. Goku is an idealist, and believes that there is some good in everyone, but he is unconcerned with the big picture of the world…unless it has to do with some kind of fight. Politics, society, law and order don’t have much bearing on his life, but he’s a man who knows right from wrong.

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Re: Interesting or funny pictures thread

Post by rereboy » Sun Oct 20, 2013 7:13 pm

DBZGTKOSDH wrote:
rereboy wrote:He colored it in chapter 228 and 229. Not sure if he colored it when he was fighting Freeza.
It wasn't. He colored the hair red, while they remain black in the black & white versions. And since it's a full colored pallet, we can't even know if red is the intended color.
Oh, I see... Maybe he intended it to be yellow or white or green or whatever but still colored it red due only to the limited color pallet. Then what's the intended color? Hmm, lets check out the other mediums/versions. Lets see the anime. Oh look, its red. Its an almost identical color scheme as the manga with just more shadow. How about the full colored manga? Ah, its red again, the red tone is just less noticeable and the black more noticeable.

Then, could it be that there's absolutely nothing to suggest that red isn't the intended color? That in fact everything in every medium of Dragon Ball implies that its red and there's no reason to suddenly doubt that just because the chapter wasn't in full color?

Honestly, I don't even know what you are trying to argue...

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Post by DBZGTKOSDH » Sun Oct 20, 2013 7:31 pm

Then what's the intended color? Hmm, lets check out the other mediums/versions. Lets see the anime. Oh look, its red. Its an almost identical color scheme as the manga with just more shadow. How about the full colored manga? Ah, its red again, the red tone is just less noticeable and the black more noticeable.
They are not colored like that from Toriyama though. We can't know what Toriyama had in his mind.

My point is that limited-colored pallet pages aren't a good source, because they are not supposed to be the true colors. They are as reliable as the black & white pages.
James Teal (Animerica 1996) wrote:When you think about it, there are a number of similarities between the Chinese-inspired Son Goku and that most American of superhero icons, Superman. Both are aliens sent to Earth shortly after birth to escape the destruction of their homeworlds; both possess super-strength, flight, super-speed, heightened senses and the ability to cast energy blasts. But the crucial difference between them lies not only in how they view the world, but in how the world views them.

Superman is, and always has been, a symbol for truth, justice, and upstanding moral fortitude–a role model and leader as much as a fighter. The more down-to-earth Goku has no illusions about being responsible for maintaining social order, or for setting some kind of moral example for the entire world. Goku is simply a martial artist who’s devoted his life toward perfecting his fighting skills and other abilities. Though never shy about risking his life to save either one person or the entire world, he just doesn’t believe that the balance of the world rests in any way on his shoulders, and he has no need to shape any part of it in his image. Goku is an idealist, and believes that there is some good in everyone, but he is unconcerned with the big picture of the world…unless it has to do with some kind of fight. Politics, society, law and order don’t have much bearing on his life, but he’s a man who knows right from wrong.

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Re: Interesting or funny pictures thread

Post by rereboy » Sun Oct 20, 2013 7:39 pm

DBZGTKOSDH wrote:
Then what's the intended color? Hmm, lets check out the other mediums/versions. Lets see the anime. Oh look, its red. Its an almost identical color scheme as the manga with just more shadow. How about the full colored manga? Ah, its red again, the red tone is just less noticeable and the black more noticeable.
They are not colored like that from Toriyama though. We can't know what Toriyama had in his mind.

My point is that limited-colored pallet pages aren't a good source, because they are not supposed to be the true colors. They are as reliable as the black & white pages.
Your point is mute since every other source for Kaioken's colors also uses red as its color and follows Toriyama's color scheme pretty closely. That's why I stated that I don't even know what you are trying to argue. At this point you are just arguing for the point of arguing, and your arguments have no real relevance for what was being discussed.

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Re: Interesting or funny pictures thread

Post by KentalSSJ6 » Sun Oct 20, 2013 7:43 pm

Guys, this is a funny pictures thread. All this SSJG and Kaioken talk is off-topic and is essentially derailing the thread. I really dont wanna call Vegito in here so can we move this talk to another thread or to pm's? If you insist on continuing at least post a funny picture with it.
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Post by TheGmGoken » Sun Oct 20, 2013 7:44 pm

The above "debate" has to do with Funny or Interesting pictures? Not to sound like a mini Mod but you could create a topic or PM this debate. As this is a picture topic not a what does this form correct color are topic.
KentalSSJ6 wrote:Guys, this is a funny pictures thread. All this SSJG and Kaioken talk is off-topic and is essentially derailing the thread. I really dont wanna call Vegito in here so can we move this talk to another thread or to pm's? If you insist on continuing at least post a funny picture with it.
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And like I said, the other sources are not Toriyama. Maybe they just saw the limited colored picture & chose red. Maybe Toriyama suggested it. The other sources are this: other sources. You can't say that Karin is white in the original manga, because he isn't. He is blue/brown. In the colored manga & the anime, he is white. Same for Kaio-ken. Its color is unknown in the original manga, but we know that it's red in the colored manga & the anime. The Kamehameha is white in the original manga, yellow in the colored manga, and blue in the anime. And so on.
James Teal (Animerica 1996) wrote:When you think about it, there are a number of similarities between the Chinese-inspired Son Goku and that most American of superhero icons, Superman. Both are aliens sent to Earth shortly after birth to escape the destruction of their homeworlds; both possess super-strength, flight, super-speed, heightened senses and the ability to cast energy blasts. But the crucial difference between them lies not only in how they view the world, but in how the world views them.

Superman is, and always has been, a symbol for truth, justice, and upstanding moral fortitude–a role model and leader as much as a fighter. The more down-to-earth Goku has no illusions about being responsible for maintaining social order, or for setting some kind of moral example for the entire world. Goku is simply a martial artist who’s devoted his life toward perfecting his fighting skills and other abilities. Though never shy about risking his life to save either one person or the entire world, he just doesn’t believe that the balance of the world rests in any way on his shoulders, and he has no need to shape any part of it in his image. Goku is an idealist, and believes that there is some good in everyone, but he is unconcerned with the big picture of the world…unless it has to do with some kind of fight. Politics, society, law and order don’t have much bearing on his life, but he’s a man who knows right from wrong.

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Post by TheGmGoken » Sun Oct 20, 2013 7:48 pm

DBZGTKOSDH wrote:And like I said, the other sources are not Toriyama. Maybe they just saw the limited colored picture & chose red. Maybe Toriyama suggested it. The other sources are this: other sources. You can't say that Karin is white in the original manga, because he isn't. He is blue/brown. In the colored manga & the anime, he is white. Same for Kaio-ken. Its color is unknown in the original manga, but we know that it's red in the colored manga & the anime. The Kamehameha is white in the original manga, yellow in the colored manga, and blue in the anime. And so on.
Seriously take this some where else. Not to mini mod again but this is a FUNNY picture topic(Or Interpreting) not the colors of the Dragonball characters.

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Re: Interesting or funny pictures thread

Post by rereboy » Sun Oct 20, 2013 7:54 pm

I'm sorry, was i talking about Karin's colors? Or the Kamehameha? I was talking about Kaioken which is consistently red in every medium and consistently follows Toriyama's color scheme everywhere. You would have a point if Kaioken wasn't consistent everywhere. But it is. So, what are you trying to argue? And what does that have to do with Kaioken, SSJG and Sonic's red form being similar in appearance? :crazy:. Short answer: it has nothing to do with it. Like I said, at this point you are just arguing for the sake of arguing. So I will end my participation in this offtopic here.

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rereboy wrote:I'm sorry, was i talking about Karin's colors? Or the Kamehameha? I was talking about Kaioken which is consistently red in every medium and consistently follows Toriyama's color scheme everywhere. You would have a point if Kaioken wasn't consistent everywhere. But it is. So, what are you trying to argue? And what does that have to do with Kaioken, SSJG and Sonic's red form being similar in appearance? :crazy:.
It's just that the Kaio-ken we see in the manga shouldn't be used as an example of a colored picture.
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Superman is, and always has been, a symbol for truth, justice, and upstanding moral fortitude–a role model and leader as much as a fighter. The more down-to-earth Goku has no illusions about being responsible for maintaining social order, or for setting some kind of moral example for the entire world. Goku is simply a martial artist who’s devoted his life toward perfecting his fighting skills and other abilities. Though never shy about risking his life to save either one person or the entire world, he just doesn’t believe that the balance of the world rests in any way on his shoulders, and he has no need to shape any part of it in his image. Goku is an idealist, and believes that there is some good in everyone, but he is unconcerned with the big picture of the world…unless it has to do with some kind of fight. Politics, society, law and order don’t have much bearing on his life, but he’s a man who knows right from wrong.

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Re: Interesting or funny pictures thread

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DBZGTKOSDH wrote:
rereboy wrote:I'm sorry, was i talking about Karin's colors? Or the Kamehameha? I was talking about Kaioken which is consistently red in every medium and consistently follows Toriyama's color scheme everywhere. You would have a point if Kaioken wasn't consistent everywhere. But it is. So, what are you trying to argue? And what does that have to do with Kaioken, SSJG and Sonic's red form being similar in appearance? :crazy:.
It's just that the Kaio-ken we see in the manga shouldn't be used as an example of a colored picture.
And I pointed out that the colors used in the manga are consistent, that the author had full use of the original color of Goku's hair if he didn't want it to glow red, and that every other source of Kaioken colors (since you believe the limited color page is not a good source) also follows the color scheme of that chapter, coloring it red. That's way more than enough to give validity to that color scheme. And yet you continued to argue... :wtf:. Like I said, I'm done with the discussion.

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Post by TheMightyOzaru » Sun Oct 20, 2013 9:58 pm

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TheGmGoken wrote:I am using that logic. Solar Sonic look more like Kaioken than SSG. Solar looks NOTHING like SSG
Except for the fact that, you know, Kaioken is just a red glow that makes Goku's hair look more purple then red.
Than*. Kaioken made Goku hair look dark red or regular red.
It made it pink or dark purple. Never red.
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Re: Interesting or funny pictures thread

Post by TheGmGoken » Sun Oct 20, 2013 11:06 pm

TheMightyOzaru wrote: It made it pink or dark purple. Never red.
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